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>god makes my body have a meatstick attached to it at all times
>said meatstick makes me feel good if i play with it or stick it in women
>NOOOOO YOU CAN DO THAT!!!!! WHY??? WELL, JUST BECAUSE YOU CANT OKAY!?!?!?
what did he mean by this? i dont even mean this in a "HAH, HECCIN GOTCHA THERE CHRISTKEK!!" way. But if i had a kid, and i didnt want him using an ipad, i wouldnt chain it to his ankle to test his discipline
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>>18411341
Your sexual organs are there for reproduction. You aren’t meant to just wantonly use it to fulfill lustful pleasures. You are meant to deny your lower nature in service of your proper function as a man. Mind over body. Similar to how you have a digestive system to take in food but you shouldn’t misuse and abuse that by eating donuts and fast food everyday and becoming obese. Neither should you use your cock to become a compulsive masturbator or porn addict.
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>>18411341
Playing with your meatstick by yourself is a waste of time and energy for the broader culture that you are a part of. The intended purpose for the culture is to encourage members of the culture to procreate. If a culture is expected to support your existance, you need to do what is good for the culture, otherwise the culture will begin to observe you as a parasite or virus of some kind.
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>>18411355
What if I was born sterile and don't produce semen?
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>>18411355
Our culture is all about gooning now. It's entered the vocabulary of normalfags. Everyone goons.
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>>18411448
What if you were born paraplegic?
That wouldn't change the purpose of legs is to walk, even if you are struck in a wheelchair
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>>18411448
From the point of view of the culture, it's still a waste of time and energy. You could spend your time contributing something. If all of the cells in your body just started burning fuel for no reason, and all your muscles just stop functioning, because they were too busy masturbating, then you would become sick and die.
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>>18411454
Its still degenerative and bad for the culture. Just because cancer spreads, that doesn't mean it's good.
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>>18411457
NTA but that's a retarded way to think coming from someone wasting energy on an Indonesian finger painting forum. The logical extreme of this is asceticism, but we all know you are not that guy. Jacking off for personal pleasure doesn't waste any more or less energy than being on here does. Either way you're not contributing anything of value to society. Most of what we do is for personal pleasure whether it's jacking off or watching sportsball or whatever else.
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>>18411465
You're just making the argument that what I am doing is also wrong. Just because I am wasting time, that doesnt mean other forms of wasting time are ok.
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>>18411348
>>18411355
You're literally wasting your time, potential and brain cells posting on an incel white supremacist imageboard.
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>>18411480
At least I have you to keep me company.
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>>18411341
Just get married and you're allowed to do it, retard
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>>18411341
Funny, I'm gay and I don't dwell on such retarded questions. Enjoy Hell.
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>>18411341
>stick it in women
And then you get a sexual disease and realize God is right and you're only supposed to have sex when you're married. If you do things your way you also pay the consequences for doing it your way. You don't have a sinful nature to test your patience, it's there to make you unable to deny that you're bad and need God. Will you repent to God or will you keep trusting yourself instead? One day you will stand before The Lord Jesus Christ, what reason do you have for rejecting Him?

Rom. 3:23-25: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”

Salvation is by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9, given by God, Romans 10:8 & 17) only in the one, final, effectual sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ (Heb. 10:8-12) dying in your place (1 Cor. 15:3-4) as a substitutionary offering for sin (Rom. 5:1-10). His blood atonement made for you is finished, so if you have received the Lord Jesus by faith (John 1:12) in your heart, you're forgiven of all your sins and are saved, once for all; finally and forever! (Rom. 8:38-39, Romans 4:5)

The gift of salvation can't be earned, it's a gift: Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

Rom. 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” Confess The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in prayer, that you trust in Him, not your own works. He atoned for your sins on the cross.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc

Proof that the Bible is the word of God:
https://truthischrist.com/seven/
fcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdf
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>>18411355
I have a job that contributes to society. Am I not allowed to relax at home after I do it?
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>>18411348
>Your sexual organs are there for reproduction. You aren’t meant to just wantonly use it to fulfill lustful pleasures. You are meant to deny your lower nature in service of your proper function as a man. Mind over body
>Mind over body
Hilarious cope. Evolution specifically tied reproduction to highest possible pleasure to lure specimen into reproduction. Reproduction is body over mind. Brain literally shuts off during orgasm. Logically ther is no sense in sticking your pee stick into pee hole, ewww disgusting.
This is why specimen that didn't feel great please of rubbing meatsticks died out and genes making orgasms reinforced.
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>>18411355
>The intended purpose for the culture is to encourage members of the culture to procreate
Then why does culture give women rights and send them to studies and work during their most fertile years?
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>>18411691
>And then you get a sexual disease and realize God is right and you're only supposed to have sex when you're married.
So in other words masturbation is acceptable if you're not married? You avoid getting diseases this way
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>>18412029
Why aren't you married?
God specifically made the woman as servant to the man to satisfy man's lust.
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>>18412029
>So in other words masturbation is acceptable if you're not married?

There isn't anything in the Bible about that, so I assume yes. Masturbation is only mentioned in the Old Testament (Leviticus) where it just says you are supposed to wash yourself afterwards.

There isn't some sort of difficult list of things you have to do to make sure you are not constantly annoying God in the New Testament, just that you don't do something you know is bad, like fornication for example:

Acts 15:28-29
"For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well."

Once you're saved you have a new nature in you that wants to please God, so despite still having the old nature (the flesh) that doesn't care, you should do you best to keep from sin and live honestly, in order to please Jesus who saved you from hell. You're asked to present your body as a living sacrifice to God (Romans 12:1), it's your reasonable service that God expects from you, although it's not required.

Romans 4:4-5: "Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."

Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. He died on the cross as a sinless sacrifice for all the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sins. He was buried, then rose again from the dead. One day you will stand before Him, and He will judge you. You can either repent to God by receiving Him and be saved, or reject Him and go to hell for your sins.

Rom. 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

You have a choice to make.
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>>18411341
Penises were created before sin was brought into the world by Adam.

I mean we can argue about why god doesn't like masturbation, but everyone seemed to cover that, importantly though the penis wasn't created as a test, it became a test when sin entered the world.
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>>18412033
1 Cor 8: 1-2 it is good for a man to stay single… "Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." In v7 Paul says that as far as he was concerned, it would be good for a man to stay single – "For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that." There is a ‘condition’ in v9, if you can’t stay single, get married - "But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn."

Don’t burn with lust, and commit fornication, if you can’t contain, get married, but make sure you involve the Lord in your choosing and that person has to be a Christian of course. (2 Cor 6v14, 1 Cor 7v39,1 Cor 1v10, Amos 3v3, Deut 7v2-4).
Note also in v7 that certain men have a ‘gift’ for staying single - For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

Jesus also gave an admonition to not marry if you can, although the context is in the Old Testament, regarding the Kingdom of Heaven (Mat 19v11+12)

God made the woman as a helper to man, not to serve the lust of man. When you are married you are supposed to sacrifice yourself to your wife because you are ONE flesh (Gen 2:23-24), the flesh is joined together. It's a physical thing and you now belong to each other:

1 Corinthians 7:4
“The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.”

1 Corinthians 7:3
“Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.”

Ephesians 5:33
“Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.”
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>>18411465
If anon is on the fingerpainting forum to spread the Word his time is better spent than masturbating.
Christianity isn't concerned just with producing highly functioning societies, the idea is to build functional societies in alignment and in service to God.

The bible doesn't say "though shant enjoy a brief moment of your life" it generally forbids things that bring us further from god, masturbation immerses you in desire and brings you away from God, simple as.
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>>18411341
I put the meatstick into the mouths of other men it feels good
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>>18412239
If masturbation was really a big deal, then God definitely would have mentioned something about it. The Bible doesn't say pleasure is a sin, but loving pleasure more than God is sin. If you feel strongly convicted that you don't want to masturbate, then don't. But forcing someone who has bigger sexual desires to do the same thing as you and telling them they are doing a great sin against God by relieving themselves to preserve their physical and mental health is not ideal.

Not everyone has the same exact hormone/body functions as you. Just because you want to ejaculate in your bed-sheets and someone else doesn't, doesn't mean the other person is wrong, either way you are both ejaculating semen and in the end the result is the same.
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>>18411341
That’s why he introduced circumscion
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>>18412252
Ok, but the thread was about how God feels about it...
>Preserve your mental and physical health
Only in facilitating a relationship with God, focusing on yourself too much can lead to narcissism which brings you further from God, or even self reliance.

If you want to know how I feel about it...
I'm a gay atheist, beat your dick 16hrs a day for all I gaf.
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>>18412419
>focusing on yourself too much can lead to narcissism which brings you further from God, or even self reliance.

You're right, but that doesn't automatically make everything that feels nice a sin. If you eat too much youre sinning, if you focus on your pleasure too much you're sinning.

The Bible doesn't say that pleasure is a sin. There are pleasures that are sin, but masturbation is not listed as something sinful in the Bible. The most that the Bible says about masturbation is in Leviticus, that you should wash yourself after you release seed.



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