Doesn't modern neuroscience, by implication, completely dispell any notion of the soul?
>>18411743?NO.
>>18411743I don't think so, even if you were to completely describe how consciousness works on a fundamental level, people could still argue that it wouldn't really explain the broad emergent phenomenon of consciousness itself. You can describe how thinking works, but not why it results in thinking so-to-speakPlus you also have some Physicists like Roger Penrose arguing that phenomenon beyond neuroscience like quantum entanglement might play some role as well.
>>18411743Not really since concisnous is still a debate. I think computer is a bigger threat to the concept of the soul of it is right than neuroscience with all it's ethical road blocks
>>18411748It's more the thing that the brain is modular and distributed rather than a single centralized decision-maker. If there are multiple "you"s inside your head then what even is the soul at that point?
>>18411751Sure but again, you're not looking at it broadly enough, there could be multiple "you"s but the overall phenomenon of consciousness could be greater than the sum of those you's. We don't exactly know where this line is drawn
>>18411743desharts and other dualist retards were utterly btfo'd hundreds of years before modern neuroscience
>>18411752What, do you mean in like a panpsychic way? An identityless observer devoid of content?
>>18411743No because neuroscience can't solve the Hard Problem of Consciousness
No, Leibnitz Law is actually the logical mechanism that makes a soul very very plausible.
>>18411762>"They just do."There we go, solved it for you.
>when you clap, it's actually a right brain-left brain high five
>>18411762This line of argumentation is debunked by brain injuries. Soulfags believe that the brain is just a receiver for signals sent by the soul. If someone gets a brain injury, they get the right signals coming in but those get scrambled by the damaged brain. On this view, you'd expect a brain damaged person to be consciously aware of the unscrambled soul signal rather than the content scrambled by the receiver. However, it's the other way around. The soul that is supposed to be the seat of consciousness is precisely what we are not consciously aware of. The brain damaged retard isn't having some weird locked-in syndrome style experience where he's coming up with smart sentences to say, trying to vocalize them but instead saying some completely different dumb shit.Soulfags just haven't thought this stuff through.
Plato and nietzche were right and we're composed of multiple souls or wills.
>>18411780>inb4 consciousness comes from the soul interacting with the brainYeah you could even say consciousness "emerges" from a complex interactions between non-conscious systems. Where have I heard that before lmao.
>>18411743Modern neuroscience is a joke.
>>18411784Plato was a hack fraud and wrong about everything. He singlehandedly caused 2000 years of darkness for the west. I spit on Plato.
>>18411800>No I will NOT elaborate on this statement! Just assume the intent behind my retarded blanket statement!
>>18411743>>18411780>>18411787>Soulfags believe that the brain is just a receiver for signals sent by the soul. >A healthy brain can see that 1+1=2, but a brain injury makes someone genuinely believe that 1+1=3>So 1+1=2 is a meaningless statementIf your reasoning leads you to believe that your reasoning is reliant on principles that are completely relative you're arguing that your argument means nothing.
>>18411743If the brain has been proven to control identity and thought then an immaterial soul would be a hard sell.It's the same as arguing for Atlas carrying the world in the modern age of astronomical science.>He's actually just invisible and you can't measure him or see him or touch him
Jewish science can turn people into tranny sleepercell agents. There is no soul
>>18411743No, because science is incapable of seeing abstractions
>>18411749That just proves computers are demonic because they lack an internal monologue.
>>18411825>I have no soulWe don't sign our posts here.
Begging the questionp
>>18411821Panpsychism still works.>Ackshually EVERYTHING has a soul but only bodies can generate thoughts and sensory input for it to experience!
>>18412156Panpsychism is a form of schizophrenia
Yes, neuroscience proves the Buddhist concept of anatman or "no soul", Hinduism and other "soul"/"atman" religions eternally BTFO.
>>18411815Who are you quoting? It seems you completely misunderstood my point, dumb soulfag.