How do infernalists respond to this book?
>>18412038A truly just God wouldn't be a universalist or an infernalist, he'd be an Annihilationist or a mortalist
>>18412040what is a mortalist?God isn't an annihilationist, because if he were, he could never be "all in all" as 1 Corinthians 15:28 says he will be, there will always be a missing piece of reality, the souls who were annihilated, that didn't attain union with him.
>>18412042>what is a mortalist?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mortalism
ALL SHALL BE SAVED WHO FOLLOW CHRIST, NOT ALL INDISCRIMINATELY.PROTESTANT HERETICS DO NOT FOLLOW CHRIST, INCIDENTALLY.
>>184120421 Corinthians 15:28 is technically compatible with universal annihilationism, or the idea that there is no heaven and hell, and we are all universally extinguished upon death regardless of moral standing. This is broadly what Jews believed, as the promise of heaven shouldn't be your sole reason for loving and worshiping God and eternal life may not be desirable anyways.
>>18412044that appears to be Calvinist nonsense, the Bible clearly states that souls are immortal.>>184120461 Timothy 2:4 clearly states that ALL shall be saved, adding qualifications where there are none is a thing that infernalists do to a lot of bible verses. If Christ isn't the savior of ALL, then he isn't the savior. >>18412047God is immortal, he is infinite, Humans cannot be in union with God in heaven unless they too will become immortal.
>>18412050>1 Timothy 2:4 clearly states that ALL shall be saved [...]?NO; IT STATES THAT GOD WANTS ALL TO BE SAVED, NOT THAT ALL SHALL BE SAVED.
>>18412051 Corinthians 15:25 is clear:“For just as in Adam all die, so also in the Anointed [Christ] all will be given life.”Not may, not if, no conditionals, all WILL be given life. And with regards to Timothy 2:4, it stands to reason that what God intends, will happen
>>18412052>all WILL be given life.YES, IN CHRIST; YOU NEED TO FOLLOW CHRIST TO BE SAVED.ARE YOU REALLY THIS DUMB?>And with regards to Timothy 2:4, it stands to reason that what God intends, will happenYOU NEED TO FOLLOW CHRIST; GOD DOES NOT MAKE YOU DO ANYTHING; WE ARE NOT AVTOMATA; WE HAVE FREE WILL; WE ARE CORESPONSIBLE IN OUR SALVATION; WE COLLABORATE WITH GOD; IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW CHRIST, YOU CANNOT BE SAVED.
>>18412054>YOU NEED TO FOLLOW CHRIST TO BE SAVED.Stop adding words to bible verses. You are letting dogma influence your reading of scripture.>WE HAVE FREE WILLThe rational will of all Humans seeks union with God, even if they don't consciously know that. Rational will can only be free if it fully knows what is good for itself, and is free of any delusions, the rational will seeks as its ultimate end the good, and God is transcendental goodness. Thus, all rational wills seek God, and it is impossible for someone fully free to reject God.
>>18412056>Stop adding words to bible verses. You are letting dogma influence your reading of scripture.I AM NOT ADDING ANYTHING TO ANYTHING; I AM EXPLAINING TO YOU WHAT IT MEANS, AND HOW THINGS ARE, SINCE, APPARENTLY, YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND SUCH PLAIN VERSICLES; YOU ARE LETTING HERETICAL IDEOLOGY OBFUSCATE YOUR REASON.>The rational will of all Humans seeks union with God, even if they don't consciously know that. Rational will can only be free if it fully knows what is good for itself, and is free of any delusions, the rational will seeks as its ultimate end the good, and God is transcendental goodness. Thus, all rational wills seek God, and it is impossible for someone fully free to reject God.NON SEQVITVR.
>>18412059>I AM EXPLAINING TO YOU WHAT IT MEANSThrough the distorted infernalist lense of your Catholic dogma.>HERETICAL IDEOLOGYUniversalism is authentic Christianity, free from the fake fears instilled on laymen by clergy and secular authorities seeking to assert imperial control.>NON SEQVITVR.No it isn't. Humans have free will, the will of Humans seeks union with God as the transcendental goodness, ergo it is impossible for a fully free will to reject God, as you were implying was possible.
>>18412060YOU ARE A MORON.
>>18412062Ad hominem
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