The first verse of genesis is literally "When the Elohim created the skies and the Earth."But Elohim is the plural of Eloah (god) so it says when the gods created the skies and the earth. Skies is also plural due to ancient belief the sky was a seven layered dome. Lol.
what's so funny
>>18412463Elohim actually means "children of El" which is the highest God in the Canaanite pantheon (which is where the story originated)
>>18412463The Septuagint uses a singular form which is another proof that it is the better source
>>18412463>literally "When the Elohim created the skies and the Earth."Except it's not. The verse is: >בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץThe word בָּרָא means "created" and it is in its singular male form in the verse. The word אֱלֹהִים means "Elohim" but there is no "the" which you added.
>>18412482Doesn’t matter, the usage of a plural term at all (Elohim) is odd when the singular form that should be used is Eloah.
>>18412482I'm gonna blow your mind. elohim works just like a collective noun, so it takes singular verbs.Scholars understand this usage to have evolved from or alongside the "abstract plural".This means a word like "virgins" = "virginity" in certain contexts.So one usage of "elohim" was to indicate "divinity". Then it was further concretized.>In the beginning, the Divine [ones] created the heavens and the earth.
>>18412561There is no "the" before Elohim in the verse, only before sky and earth.
>>18412573That is how you translate it fluently in English, by adding "the". There is no definite article in Hebrew but the concretized abstract plural usage of the noun requires something like that to work in English.
>>18412561>amazon sued appleAmazon and Apple are abstract plurals. I don't see a "the", but the sentence is perfectly correct.
wow almost as if the trinity is indeed a biblical concept...
>>18412618The trinity is three persons but one god. "Elohim" is the plural of god not persons, so it doesn't fit with the trinity.
>>18412618God = God the Father/God the Son/God the Holy SpiritGod the Holy Spirit =/= God the Father =/= God the SonThere is one God in three persons. I paid attention in Sunday School.
>>18412474If anything this reinforced the authenticity of the Masoretic Text because no one would forge a holy text full of blatant contradictions like this.
>>18412463Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of god shouted for joy." Referring to Job 38:4 when god laid the foundation of the earth.Psalms 82 Refers to the divine council of gods, determining your fate with the deluge.Genesis 3:22 ...' And the lord god said, " behold, the man is become as one of us".Your god had a shitpot load of gods with him. 200 came to earth to take wives. What's funny about all this is that 4000 years before your bible was written on paper, the 7 tablets of the Enuma Elish was scribed in clay with the same information except the bible writers subverted the writing to embellish their religion. Your god that you pray to is called Enlil. Better known as yahweh. You believers in your bible are fucked. To funny.
>>18412474The Septuagint was deliberately altered from the Hebrew original to be more in accordance with Christian orthodoxy. The Masoretic Text retains Judaism's pagan Canaanite roots.
I tried reading the Talmud and it ruined the OT for me. Because I can just imagine in my head the OT was written by the same type of people who wrote the Talmud. I look at the Talmud and I see the most insane discourse ever.>The MISHNA says, if a man extends his hand from the public property into the private property while he is holding a good from the public property and it is thus received by a man in the private property, he is guilty of working on HaShabbat. But if he accidentally puts bread in the oven on HaShabbat, and he was ignorant that it was HaShabbat day, is it legal for him to take the bread out of the oven, and do work to cancel his sin before the bread is cooked? Or shall he wait for the bread to bakeAnd then I read the OT and it is the same shit.>If an Ox gores a man, and does not have a habit of doing so, and the man is warned not to do it again, he shall not be punished. But if the ox has a habit and the man was already warned he shall be punished for it severely.Like what the fuck is this shit lol.
>>18412469El is the God of Isra'el. When Abram was 99 years old he appeared to him and told him I am El.
>>18412463King Edward VII wrote this in a letter:Now, WE, Edward, by the grace of God, King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and of the British Dominions beyond the Seas King, Defender of the Faith, Emperor of India, etc., etc., have arrived at the following decisions upon the questions in dispute, which have been referred to OUR arbitration, . . .Were there multiple King Edward VIIs?
>>18412611The word "the" is added because of a grammatical construct in English.Take an adjective "greedy". Now make it a noun>The greedy covet money and do not share"The" is necessary in English to turn the adjective into a noun. It does not matter if a definite article is not present in Hebrew. The uses of definite articles in Hebrew and English are not 1:1 because they are different languages.
>>18412640To funny what?
>>18412648Abraham payed a religious tithe to Melchizedek, a Canaanite king and priest. The God of the Israelites is canonically the same God.
>>18412645The people in temple are autistic. No Jew would ever realistically deny this except to keep up appearances. Why do you think so many of us are unobservant lol
>>18412729There are two sides to religiosity:autismschizophreniaI don't like religious people in general because of that.
>>18412732Smart guy. Not unique to religiosity either. Biggest bump in QoL I ever had was learning that the overwhelming majority of people simply aren't worth talking to no matter how much slack you give them.
>>18412723The Hebrew is ambigous and only says "he paid a tenth of all to him", so it's perfectly plausible Melchizedek paid a tithe to Abraham.
