Therefore, I declare the Presidency of the Republic vacant!
A «C I A» FAZENDO O QUE FAZ.
The history of this organisation proves that the average tradcath would eagerly sell out his country to the protestants as long as his compatriots get a shorter end of the stick.
>>18413578People think that the CIA was forcing all these latam militaries to perform all these coups, when in reality their military elites were the ones who acted of their own volition.
>>18413580Yeah, the CIA just helped the elites. I never liked the idea that the elites just didn't have any autonomy in this, they're just as much to blame as the Americans.
>Part of the conspiracy that threw a coup in 1930>Writer of the Cohen Plan that caused a coup in 1937>Initiates a coup in 1964>Faces no consequences>Dies
this >>18413580>be latrinX>decide to follow in papa US's example, value freedom and try to be a democracy>soviet union says "uh.. communism good, o algo">vote in literal communists just because not realizing they are anti-freedom>communists tank the economy, throw the government into deadlock and try to start a violent revolution>CIA gives other parties some money and ideas for a leaflet campaign>communists are coup'd by nationalist patriots who battle the most belligerent communist armed combatants>glowies gets blamed for the coupthis exact same sequences of events took place in chile, brazil, bolivia and guatemala off the top of my head, maybe argentina if you consider peronists kind of commies since they advocate n*tionalization, recent events in venezuela are exceptional
>>18413676The average conservative and his absolute schizo delusions
>>18413795>NOO DON'T YOU REALIZE ALLENDE WAS ABOUT TO BUILD A SOCIALIST UTOPIA WITH STAR TREK SETS AND EVERYTHING UNTIL THE CIA PUT PINOCHET IN POWER, YOU'RE DELUSIONAL
>>18413676Just saying, if the Brazilian military throwing a coup was for the sake of stopping a "Communist threat", then maybe they wouldn't have thrown a coup in 1889, before the USSR was even formed......and then another coup in 1930 against Washington Luís, who was against labor activism and even signed a 1927 law that was used to crack down on Communism......and then have to make up a fake document about a fake Communist coup plan to justify another coup in 1937......and then throw another coup against Vargas in 1945, keeping in mind that one of the main things Vargas' dictatorship was known for was being anti-communism...
Geisel had the best slogan out of any President of Brazil.
>>18413817Geisel had the best propaganda songs too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjUodW7CNzM
>>18413514Aladino Felix should have become president, hue.>Aladino Félix (March 1, 1905 — November 11, 1985), better known by his pen name Dunatos Menorá and Dino Kraspedon, was a Brazilian writer, right-wing paramilitary leader, and self-proclaimed messiah of the Jewish people, who claimed in a 1959 book to have been contacted by an extraterrestrial from Jupiter. Much information of a scientific (mainly astrophysics), medical, and moral nature is given in his book>Félix was born in Lorena, halfway between São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, and is reported to have died in 1985. Félix served in the army in World War II. 1959 Félix under his pen name Dino Kraspedon published Meu Contato com os discos voadores (My Contact with Flying Saucers). The book tells the story of his claimed contact with a flying saucer commander, at his home. Félix (as Dino Kraspedon) wrote that he gave the extraterrestrial visitor was given a lengthy Q&A interview in which the visitor explained advanced concepts in physics and gave insights on how to improve humanity's social conditions on earth. Félix (as Dino Kraspedon), later publicly clarified that he did not witness the male human extraterrestrial leaving or entering any spacecraft>In his dream of becoming the Great King predicted by Nostradamus, he organized a paramilitary movement to seize power at the height of the military dictatorship in Brazil. In this project, he claimed to have the help of extraterrestrials to rule the world and initiate a New Age from the soil of São Paulo
>>18413875>Under his pen name Dino Kraspedon, Félix appeared to correctly predict that there would be a period of terrorism. However Félix seems to have been motivated to fulfill his own prediction since a 2018 Brazilian investigative journalism report revealed that in 1967-68 Félix himself was actually leading a group of 14 police officers in a false flag operation committing acts of terrorism in coordination with a general with close ties to Brazil's right wing dictatorship. The terrorist acts included detonating 14 bombs, stealing arms and explosives and robbing a bank. Evidence shows this terrorism was carried out in order to allow the dictatorship a pretense for tightening their repression of Brazilian society. Aladino Félix was arrested and charged with terrorism in 1968 and served three years in prisonThis guy wasn't the first Jewish squizo to create a Brazilian messianic cult, Sebastianism was full of conversos and they even carried out a fucking human sacrifice/mass suicide in Pernambuco. https://www.bibliothecasefarad.com/listado-de-libros/judeus-inquisicao-e-sebastianismo/https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedra_do_Reino
>>18413606Correct
>this thread
>>18413563>>18413578Dunno about Brazil's but the CIA involvement in actually causing the Argentinean 1976 coup is drastically overstated. Kissinger basically only told Videla *after* the coup that "you can do whatever you want and the USA won't protest about it internationally", but the putsch itself was still organized by the Argentinean brass independently and if anything the political instability in Argentina had been already ongoing since the fucking 1930s and Peron's assorted shenanigans
>>18413514I was reading a very interesting essay about the nature of the technocratic Juntas of the late 20th century a few weeks ago. It insisted they weren't really dictatorial as much as they were ruled by the military as a sector of society.It also correctly points out they were all rather ideologically sterile.It even call's Pinochet's Chile "Ideologically mediocre" right after signalling it as the most fecund of these.It also denies they were fascist, which in fairness I agree with.
>>18413676Peronism is an "ideology" (cult of personality) so utterly bizarre that it ascends beyond communism or fascism. Just the fact that right wing and left wing peronistas exists is already too much for any rational mind to bother trying to understand >>18413887>SebastianismThat's not Jewish Messianism, that's just Portuguese nationalism
>>18414238It definitely wasn't dictatorial in Brazil in the sense that there wasn't any singular Dictator to really rally around, they ran their own Electoral system and rotated the Presidency, obviously keeping it all within their clique, but never making it a One Great Leader cult of personality or anything like that. Tbh the only real "Great Dictator" figure I can think of from Brazil is Getulio Vargas himself.
>>18414251>autarky + left wing economics + nationalismthat's not incoherent or even uncommon in twentieth century politics, weird sensationalist framing
>>18414251Father Antônio Vieira, the greatest propagator of Sebastianism in Brazil, said that he too would save the Jews. This attracted many of them.>In his writings and sermons, there was room for thought and reflection on discussions such as the indigence of slavery as a basic factor in the movement of the colony and on the need for the “faithless money” of the Novos Cristãos. In these terms, he proposed to the Portuguese king to grant the reception and permanence of Jews in Portugal, aiming to “transfer to their homeland the fabulous fortunes of those” who had migrated to other regions due to the persecution suffered during the Avis dynasty, especially during the reign of King Manuel I. This proposal demonstrates that Vieira was an adherent of mercantilism and that the economic success of Portugal was linked to its destiny as the Fifth Empire>The sermons in defense of the Jews were one of the reasons that created antipathy on the part of the ecclesiastics, especially the Dominicans, who were in charge of the Tribunals of the Holy Office, which led to Vieira being subjected to inquisitorial processes and prohibited from preaching in favor of the Jews
>>18414257Brazil in that sense was a dictatorship without a dictator
Jango Goulart made the same mistake that Dom Pedro II did by not executing those traitors both of them had half of the military supporting them and did nothing to avoid blodshed
>>18414287This is the most accurate description I have ever heard.
>>18414295Not-so-fun fact: During the crisis of the Juscelino Kubitschek government, some high ranking military officers went to Pedro Henrique with a plan to throw a counter-coup against the republic to restore the Empire of Brazil... this son of fifty bitches, worthless son of a bitch, weak-ass motherfucker, poor excuse for a wannabe-monarch, refused.
>>18414234This is the pattern for most of the CIA in general ngl. They're constantly strung up to be godkings that can collapse nations with a snap of their fingers when any kind of foreign shenanigans are always very tedious and difficult things to pull off that usually don't go exactly your way
>>18414487Maybe he just wanted to fuck bitches instead of getting murdered after three months heading the LARPocracy.>>18414257Class regime of the military. It even has a process of its own. But it was unable to ever transcend the frame of progress, democracy, etc.
>>18414487The idea that a monarchy would save Brazil is so hilariously out of touch with reality it's barely worth addressing.Thailand is a monarchy and has a similar HDI. Morroco is a monarchy and similarly poor. This shit ain't a magic formula bruh
>>18413578the liberation theology shit was just cope, as soon as any catholic bishop in latinxistan/favelastan saw a red flag you just know they were bombarding el presidente with calls asking how long it would take for him to get enough yanquibux to put an end to it
>>18414735Liberation theologists and the actual Catholic Church were not in good terms with eachother. They weren't the same people at all. There is a Liberation theology translation of the bible, though. I have it. Good fun.>>18414492The CIA is 40% - 60% PR plus communist mythology. But you shouldn't underestimate them.
>>18414747>There is a Liberation theology translation of the bible, though. I have it. Good fun.can i request a qrd
>>18414257>Tbh the only real "Great Dictator" figure I can think of from Brazil is Getulio Vargas himself.In fairness, this has to do with the fact the only other candidate was a Monarch, which is technically different. Most Latin American countries seem to only really get two Great personalist dictators, at most (some countries only have one). Though the number of "Caudillos" (to call them something) is much larger.>>18414747Iirc the pope literally told Cardenal that he needed to reconcile with the church while he visited Nicaragua. Same tour where he went to El Salvador and acted like everything was copacetic, btw.
>>18414749It's just a bible translation, but the pastoral version has a lot of annotations about the poor, the wickedness of the powerful, the nescessity of sharing, it reinterprets Matthew 18:6 as referring to the poor, too. Basically taking little ones to be figurative, as in "little people".
>>18413795Your commie mind wouldn't get it, it's real in his mind therefore it's the truth, qed.
>>18413580>the CIA was forcing all these latam militaries to perform all these coups, Worse, these legitimate coup are villained; nothing wrong with overthrowing a socialist who is bringing the country down.
Reminder Brazil is Rome.
>>18413811Coups have many purposes, the 1964 coup against Jango was certainly to prevent Brazil becoming communist.
>>18415189>Portugal is Rome>Brazil is PortugalYep, that's accurate.
>>18414287So not too different from Mexico during the PRI era
>>18414487I think the next Emperor of Brazil is gonna start out as President of Brazil, then when the Constitution of 88 inevitably breaks the country's economy beyond repair, whoever the fuck is President at the time is gonna organize with the Armed Forces to throw a coup, gain absolute power, and basically be "President" in name only but a monarch in practice.
>>18415189>>18415238Phoenicia: SpainCarthage: BrazilGreece: BritainRome: America
>>18415263>Phoenicia: Spain>Carthage: Brazilwasnt carthage a phoenician city?
>>18415263>Carthage: BrazilHey, I can see it, actually.
>>18413514>>18413578>>18413580Latinx are nihilistic materialists like Americans, they dont really believe in anything.They dont really hold anything sacred.They are a cut above dunecoons but lack the conviction of dunecoons that makes them into headcutter fanaticsthey are beneath far asiatics, and while they have more creativity than they, more vibrancy, latam are really like jungle birds screeching and preening and ai-ai-ai performative loud displays of language and movement, latinx lack the bugmannlike organization and dedication to the collective body of far asiatics.The Western Hemisphere does seem to produce these Nietzschean Last Man types who dont actually hold any true beliefs, they just sort of do whatever is convenient at the time.The logical conclusion of this is loyalty becomes commodity, the CIA can literally purchase loyalty from party members.>is it racial?maybe, but I think a large part of it is spiritual derascination as well as biological.Latam are mystery meats, and so have no deep biological loyalty to a place or a time of their ancestors.They are also culturally and spiritually mystery meats, with the native folk-way being wiped out sometimes because they didnt want Europeans to learn their secret history, and sometimes because the history just wasnt preserved as it was an oral tradition in a language no one spoke.They have no sense of the past, therefore no roots, therefore nothing to give meaning to loyalty, why not sell loyalty if it benefits you? Who are you betraying? your neighbors arent your cultural, racial, or ancestral similars.really latam is the ultimate refutation of Leftism.material status and class actually arent enough to fill a man's soul and make him into principled individual capable of resisting bribe, coercion, and vice.Those are just my thoughts on it.
>>18415311bodied those freaks
>>18415311Europeans are technically more violent than Latinos, not because they're more savage or anything like that, but because Europeans are more dominant, so they often clash with each other for dominance and end up killing each other, this is why European countries have had so many wars with each other.The reason you don't see that many wars between LatAm countries is more because we Latinos are more submissive, we are good at following orders, but we are not good at actually taking initiative and actually doing anything without being told to do so. This is why when dictators show up in our countries, we kind of just roll over, we're kind of passive.
>>18415311>really latam is the ultimate refutation of Leftism.Your post was making sense until this
>>18415348its not so much about warfighting as much as it latinos lack a level of incorruptibility that Europeans, MENA, and East Asians have.Americans both North and South are very prone to corruption in the name of pragmatism.>>18415391Its a refutation of Leftism because you can not have a serious country without loyal and dedicated people, Men who cannot be bought.Leftwing ideas usually leave out the intangible factors that go into constructing a group and an individual, things like ancestry, and race, and culture.The Leftist analysis concludes essentially if men have reason, bread, and water, this alone is enough to progress towards a better world.But this isnt the case in the actual world, in theory, in a vacuum, maybe this fundamental assumption of Leftism can exist.But in actuality, a subpar organization like the CIA, whom the Europeans ran circles around, can successfully infiltrate and subjugate and orchestrate Latam countries on a whim because they lack those essential qualities of racial, ancestral, and cultural unity.Those elements arent elevated under Leftist thought-forms and in a place where they arent already baked-in, you will see the country become a satellite to a more capable predator.Latam is an experiment of anthropology, whereby you completely the "immaterial" characteristics of country, you give it a hardline material essentialist thought form like the various leftwing governments have/had, and see what happens.Well they were all penetrated by the CIA either because they were too open or they were too materialist, there was no "shield" composed of things like racial loyalty or cultural unity.
>>18415427>But in actuality, a subpar organization like the CIA, whom the Europeans ran circles aroundKek
>>18415427Uncompromising is a better term.MENA are very corrupt, while Europeans are like the definition of anti-corrupt, East Asians being somewhere inbetween.But all three of these groups have reasons for never compromising.Europeans are extremely loyal to their cultural way of life, a hold over from the days of Medieval Chivalric codes.East Asians are extremely uncompromising because they have a robotic dedication to the collective group body.MENA are fanatical zealots who are loyal either to their tribe, like jews, or to their religion, like Saracens, and also jews, which makes them maybe the most uncompromising of the three.These groups can be extremely difficult to work with if you're sole aim is a practical solution.e.g. you cant negotiate with Europeans on green energy.east Asians on their totalitarian security state. and semites on islam or zionism.These are non-negotiables.Latam, like North Americans, are very compromising people, there are basically no non-negotiables for Americans and Latams.This has the effect of loyalty being negotiable.most recently in Venezuela, the Americans and Venezuelans talked this huge game about Decadent late stage capitalism of Freedom and Democracy facing off against Liberated workers Degenerate Commie shithole and in the end, the Americans and Venezuelans made a deal literally within hours of one (1) guy being arrested.Jews and Saracens are startingly similar in how they behave and what they believe, and theyve been in a 1500 year long deathmatch.NK and SK are literally the same people divided even within families, and theyve been in a 70 year long arms race waiting for the other side to slip up so they can exterminate them.The difference between compromising and uncompromising.
>>18415434They did, the KGB and Stasi thoroughly contained the CIA in Europe and penetrated the CIA in America.CIA didnt defeat the USSR, Slavs being Slavs defeated the USSR.
The more I think about it, the more it seems that the longer a people dwells upon a land the more uncompromising they become, the less practically minded they are.The best mediators who can play both sides historically have been jews, who historically had no lands.But with Zionism and the jewish homeland, they immediately revert back to semitic factory setting which is zero compromise on anything, on this issue alone there can be no debate.With the Anglo-Saxons, they were newcomers to the British isles and their descendants became merchants and traders and their foreign policy held no actual loyalty to anything but pure practicality of increasing their coffers.The Anglo-Saxon state was also immediately compromised by organized jewry in ways the Irish state or the Danish state was not despite their historical and geographic and in the case of the latter ethnic similarities to the Anglo-Saxons.A people dwelling on a land for longer and longer ennobles them somehow or at the very least, we do not see the extreme levels of corruption like we see in America or Latam, places where the people dwelling there are all newcomers or recently fabricated out of pre-existing peoples who are no longer around.Arabs and Berbers being wandering desert people are less noble and more practical than the settled peoples of the Caucasus and Alborz and Zagros, despite them all being Mohammedans.
>>18415446Counter-espionage in a closed society is playing the game on easy mode.
>>18415189Brazil is the true New Rome. It even has a second one to spare!https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Romahttps://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Roma_do_Sul
>>18415311>They have no sense of the past, therefore no roots, therefore nothing to give meaning to loyaltyBlatantly untrue assumption about a country like Mexico, they're viciously proud of their history and when a foreigner tries to get involved in a discussion of its political side they straight up close you off like it's some secrets covenant only they're allowed to be in on.
>>18415427Claiming that North Americans are somehow more subject to corruption due to "spiritual historic" reasons is fucking comical given how Canada is light years ahead in civic order and reduced corruption over places like Russia, Romania, Ukraine, China, etc.
>>18415449>The Anglo-Saxon state was also immediately compromised by organized jewry in ways the Irish state or the Danish state was not despite their historical and geographic and in the case of the latter ethnic similarities to the Anglo-Saxons.Wtf are you on about, English Jewry was largely irrelevant compared to far more relevant communities in the Netherlands, Germany, Poland, etc. Also>the Irish stateYeah no shit the Irish state didn't even exist until the the 1920s, Ireland was constantly subject to never ending civil war or political disunity since the Normans landed there in the 1100s.
>>18415982Brazil has a lot of history, it just isn't proud of it like it should be.
>>18415982Not really, Mexico cant decide if its native or European. They have had parties campaign on nativism just as they have had parties campaign on European liberalism.Mexico is a liberal democracy, not an aristocratic oligarchy.The people living in Mexico might be interested in the history of Mexico, but they arent actually living within that history.They are at the end of the day pragmatic liberals not Nahuatl primitives.>>18415998No one said they dont have history, I said they arent attached to history, the people alive there today dont have history. The people of Brazil have no shared history, some are African, some are native, some White European, some mixed, a people without unity have a history without unity.No unified history means no real or serious country can be formed, they left to immediate (rather than historical) concerns which are always of a pragmatic nature.WWII started because of anti-pragmatic peoples driven by historical revanchism.WWI started because of historical rivalry.The Great shakers and movers of history are always Leaders and Nations living within history driven by history.If Mexicans ran Britain and Germany and Poland theyd come to an agreement beneficial to all parties, but because historically conscious people were present there was an uncompromising impasse.
>>18415985Canada is composed of (it was at least) two homogenous self concerned groups who both identified with their historical European counterparts in ways Americans and Mexicans did not.
>>18415449>The Anglo-Saxon state was also immediately compromised by organized jewry There were no Jews in England until the Norman conquest and even they were expelled a century or two later. They were only let back by Cromwell.
>>18415992English jewry drove world history.>Irish state didnt existare we going to do this stupid shit where a country isnt real unless it is recognized by a parliament?Thats silly. Ireland has existed since the bronze age.Furthermore we arent really talking about states in a strict sense, more so a nation, a national body of people unified by culture, history, and blood.states tend to grow out of these historical nations, but you can have a fabricated state like America without these things, however its very unserious and corruptible.The Irish people are less likely to compromise compared to the English.
>>18416171Yeah obviously you cant be compromised by jewry if there are no jews around.But when there were jews moving to England, England was immediately capitualed without resistance.It wasnt Cromwell btw, thats like saying Hard-Cellar is what made America non-White.Wiliam III actually brought them in at the behest of Suasso, a portuguese jew who funded William's expedition for the English throne.
>>18416173>England was immediately capitualed without resistanceunironically what did cleiton mean by this
>>18416173Well Jews directly followed the Normans as they completely pulverized and remade english society so I guess you could say that any revolt against the normans was a revolt against the Jews, indirectly.
>>18416172A fifth of Ireland is still under British rule because the compromise side ruthlessly quashed the anti-compromise side lol.Please stop embarrassing yourself with this Sam Huntington shit
>>18414251Peronism just means being a typical hopelessly corrupt Argentinian who supports whatever caudillo is in charge this week. It is why Argentina is still third world despite having the same potential as the US, at least when they had millions of immigrants from Europe, now they have millions of immigrants from the rest of latrine america their future is even more bleak.
>>18413580>>18413606It flattens the world into a very simple picture. I saw someone on Reddit (I know...) argue the U.S. should apologize and pay reparations for installing Suharto into power in Indonesia which also resulted in the murder-lynchings of a million communists. But the people who run Indonesia are the people who actually did that and are not ashamed of it, they're proud of that shit. You gonna apologize and pay reparations for the people who did the shit? These are some of the supporters of the current president who is also backed by right-wing nationalist paramilitary groups:https://youtu.be/yTctv0IxRgA
>>18416199I was watching a news story about Milei a few months back, and the reporter said "Argentina has for years had only two big ideologies, Peronism and Anti-Peronism".If that is true, then the two leading ideologies are "cult of personality", and "I hate that guy with the cult of personality". They legit have no real ideology.
