Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the final, complete, deliberate rejection of God's grace while fully knowing what you're rejecting. Forgiveness requires acceptance of grace. This sin IS the rejection of grace. That should answer your question.

>>18416130
Blasphemy: insulting the deity in some manner.
Say for instance: I coom with dog AIDS in the bussy of the holy Spirit.
There's a blasphemy

>>18416411
No, it doesn't. So it's basically the equivalent of Mormon "everyone goes to one of three degrees of heaven BUT ex-Mormons go to OUTER DARKNESS!"?

Its about corrupting the message jesus was sent to deliver, like paul did.

Jesus wass like "fuck all social constructs" while paul was like "man is the head of the woman. Slaves, obey your masters" lmao

>>18416130
It's basically a super convoluted way of saying not believing in god is a sin so you get autobanned to hell, even if you were otherwise a good person.
Otherwise christcucks would have to justify the possibility of non believers getting into heaven, and that's a hard philosophical problem for them because it also implies their entire meme society with praying, going to church, etc etc is irrelevant.

>>18416457
invincible ignorance

>>18416460
>no argument
I accept your concession

>>18416454
I do find it funny how Paul never mentions the first witnesses to Christ’s resurrection were women.

>>18416130
Do you really want to know?

>>18416464
That comes from Jewish customs (women were not allowed to teach). If tou read the gospels carefully you'll see that Mary magdalene is the beloved disciple (john), Jesus had to turn him into a "man" for him to be "accepted" or "equal" to others.

This is contrasted by the gospel of Mary, where Peter tells her that "master would not say such things to a woman" and that "he would surely teach them to their disciples first".

If you do 1+1 you'll get it... Peter wanted to form the church and live off it, got jealous of MM "getting" it and banned her (renounced jesus teachings)

Then comes paul who has differences with Peter but they're not irreconcilable for they both love money and power... and so you see them together in acts while jesus brother thinks things completely opposed to them

I really despise those who adhere to the "faith, not works" people.

>>18416510
And now you know why only one of them "mocks" the beloved disciple running off

>>18416457
You sound like a stupid person, and it's worse if you're just pretending to post retard

>>18416562
>no argument
I accept your concession

>>18416130
reverse engineer so if it is forgiven then???? Yeah there you go that's all you need. It’s not hard. Understand it before they do

>>18416510
What exactly is the evidence for Mary Magdalene being part of the Christian tradition before Mark though? In Mark, she’s not very present and is just used as a witness for Christ’s resurrection, and couldn’t the other gospels just be expanding on the character Mark created? The only reason I can think of for her to have existed would be criterion of embarrassment, which is not too convincing for me personally.

>>18416595
She is unnamed in the other gospels but that doesnt mean she wasnt mentioned.

John is the ultimate gospel and its supposed to teach you logos, discernment. To fully learn and understand (through reading).


Tell me: who was the one who washed jesus feet?, who put the perfume on him?.

Was it the same one who called him rabboni?.

How come peter and paul make difference between man and woman when jesus didn't?, how come he was understood by a prostitute before his disciples?... could it be that she was the only one who truly gave away everything while they didn't?


Really gets the jog noggin

>>18416609
Mary isn’t a prostitute though, and Mark is making a deliberate point by having the woman who anoints Jesus be unnamed. Also I am pretty sure Jesus does make a distinction between man and woman in the gospels.

>>18416635
>Also I am pretty sure Jesus does make a distinction between man and woman in the gospels.
Does he in gospel of Thomas?

He says the opposite: youll only enter the kingdom of heaven once you see an image as only that... an image. Man and woman are ONE unit, equal. Both made in image and likeness of God, Genesis says the same. And dont make me get into the kabbalistic meaning of all of this, you'll get a cognitive dissonance so big you'll end up in ER.

At least put some effort into it, retard.

>>18416457
>a good person
No such animal. You were born under original sin and are loathsome in the eyes of the Lord. Only His infinite mercy spares you from the eternal torment we all deserve and you spit in His face. That is why it is the ultimate blasphemy that cannot be forgiven.

>>18416449
All sins are infinitely grave when commited against an infinitely Good Being (tangentially, this is why God Himself had to pay our penance Himself, repaying the Infinite Debt with an infinite Payment; Life is essentially currency, not the be-all end-all of existence when you are the Giver of Life and Death). Hell does not discriminate between levels of sin.
The difference is that denying the Grace offered to you by the Holy Spirit, in full knowledge of what you are doing, automatically will end with you in Hell upon death, with no mean of repentance in the rest of your life.
Imagine BELIEVING -not doubting, having 100% faith- that God is real, Jesus is His Son, Jesus died for you, and is willing to give you grace fully... and still going "nah senpai, I hate you", like the demons and Satan.
Does this clarify why this is unforgiveable for you?

>>18416874
Nah it just sounds like petty spite and cope against people who don't hate themselves enough to believe their very existence is evil and deserving of eternal torment. You have fun with that intense self loathing lil brobro but no one who is happy and well adjusted pays your sour grapes any mind.

>>18416877
>against people who don't hate themselves enough to believe their very existence is evil and deserving of eternal torment
are you perfect?

it's when you don't believe you can be saved

>>18416858
Original sin does not exist, shit for brains. Adam and Eve have been mathematically disproved.

>>18416874
>All sins are infinitely grave when commited against an infinitely
Literally mathematically false. All finite things are equivalent to 0 against infinity.

>>18416889
>Literally mathematically false. All finite things are equivalent to 0 against infinity
>does not understand that this is literally the argument
bro, zero does not exist, it is a tendency toward infinite non-existence. By not being aligned with infinity you bring yourself to zero. Complete and utter annihilation. All sins ARE infinite and lead to Utter Destruction.

>>18416939
0 is a representation for things that don't exist. For example, there are 0 Gods that exist. There are 0 sins that exist. Etc.
You are never going to heaven Lil buddy, and Jesus is never coming back.

>>18416945
>0 is a representation for things that don't exist.
okay, good start
>For example, there are 0 Gods that exist. There are 0 sins that exist. Etc.
terrible execution. Read Parmenides; if the Divine did not exist, we would not ahve any ability to contemplate it to begin with.
>inb4 semantics
semantics imply the word do exist, and naturally proceed definitions from such an existence, whether you like it or not. Now the interesting part is that those definitions can't sprout from the vaccuum, as previously stated. Your move.

>>18416953
Yes, the divine is unthinkable because it does not exist. You do not actually think about it, you make shit up, that is not actual understanding.
There is no God and no divine. Sorry buddy. Jesus did not rise, and he's NEVER coming back.

>>18416945
>0 is a representation for things that don't exist
0 is not a natural number, it is not born from something concrete unlike 1 (object), 2 (objects), etc.

0 indicates theres a "debt" system that goes beyond counting and is more like accounting.

Youre all so fucking dense and pretentious, you cant argue about the gospels so you talk dumb math shit without even actually knowing anything.

>>18416130
>What exactly is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?
Denying that the white are white because they embody the spirit made holy in Christ.
>why is it the one and only unforgivable sin?
Because denying it means the Son had no reason to come.

>>18416961
Let me explain this to you: the fact that you acknowledge something abstract like 0 makes you declare the existence of God, for youre practically making the argument that something that is not there in the physical is still there in the immaterial as part of reality

Checkmate, Dumbass

>>18416955
>You do not actually think about it, you make shit up, that is not actual understanding.
That's assuming all knowledge is not pre-existent prior to its revelation, which nothing points toward in either the sensual or immaterial perspective, fyi.

>>18416961
"Natural numbers" are just the names we give to positive integers. They are not any more "natural" than the reals or an algebraically closed field which if anything is the actual "natural" set of numbers.
There is no point to talk about your Jewish fairytales as though they're metaphysically or even historically relevant.

>>18416884
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>>18416880
Nobody is but my mere existence is not categorically evil and I do NOT deserve eternal punishment for being born. No amount of your bluster and projected self hatred is going to convince me otherwise. That's your hangup.

It's unforgivable because you won't repent of it. If you're still breathing you can repent, but if your heart is hardened that much you won't actually end up repenting.
The actual sin is committed only once, at death, and due to having died you won't be able to repent

>What if an atheist blasphemes the Holy Spirit but then converts years later?
Then they never did commit the sin. They would have to reject God's grace all the way up to the point of death.

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>>18416130
>DEUS VULT

>>18416858
>you had no control over being a bad little goy therefore you need to be a goyslave to become a good little goy in the eyes of the megakike demon that runs the earth
No thanks bro. You realize you can just choose not to be a slave to arbitrary Jewish nonsense meant to enslave you, right? Just choose not to be a raped slave, it's literally that easy.

>>18416986
Natural refers to its origin, theres a reason every civilization developed numbers: they exist in reality.

Youre being taught literal 1rst grade maths here buddy.

>>18417034
>Nobody is
The actual answer is "God is, and no one else", and because you purposefully disalign from the infinite God, you deliberately set yourself up for complete and infinite annihilation.
Sorry bro.

OP again
Also, Vishnu is my lord

>>18417087
Still don't hate myself friend. Still not going to believe that I deserve to burn forever for being born. Still going to enjoy my life while you whip yourself.

>>18417061
is it slavery if it's a choice?

>>18417104
>enjoy my life
what does it mean?

>>18416880
Just because somebody is not perfect that doesn't mean they should be tortured for it. Your morality and ethics are a train wreck.

>>18417178
Re-read my post in >>18417087 and you'll know why your assumption on my statement is false
imagine being born as a grown adult, straight into the ocean, basically struggling to keep yourself above sea level. Ideally you'd recognize this situation is kind of shit and will end only one way, no matter how much you try to keep yourself above water level.
And then comes a ship. The captain tells you that He'll send a lifeline for you to crawl unto the ship. He tells you that he's getting everyone like you, marooned and drowning into the ocean, and then He'll set sail for land to end this fucking travesty. He tells you to hold tight to the lifeline and not falter, even if the waves batter you, even if it feels easier at the moment to let go.
And then you tell him to get bent. You doN't even try to take the lifeline. Thy will be done.

>>18417099
Racism is unchristian.

>>18416454
It's undeniable that Jesus preached against eating food that was sacrificed to idols, while Paul said it's ok to eat food that was sacrified to idols.

>>18417204
Thats because jesus tells you not to put any (hu)man above you while paul wants to be your idol and make you twice the son of satan he is

How did Paul get his fanfiction inserted into the Bible and have anyone take him seriously?

>>18417242
It's the inerrant word of G-d, obviously. Including the letters not actually written by the Pharisee Saul, but ascribed to him.

Man Christian’s will go on and on about all this shit when they still haven’t proved that a god even exists, that it’s just one god, that it’s the Jew god, that actually the one Jew god is actually three gods, or that the three gods are actually one god.

>>18417279
Tip harder fedora.

>>18417295
See, he knows he can’t do it so he resorts to insults. I assume any further replies will probably call me a tranny or Jew.

If a culture resists the very idea of forgiveness, then the individuals in that culture can not be forgiven, because forgiveness does not exist in the shared world view.

>>18416457
This

>>18417072
I have a degree in pure mathematics, shit for brains. You don't understand basic math. Zero is the additive identity and is literally required to construct fields. Stop talking about shit you don't understand.

>>18417412
You have a degree in kike nonsense ad it won't save you when God casts you into the burn pit :D

>>18417418
>math is kike nonsense
You Christians are genuinely mentally retarded

>>18417412
>Zero is the additive identity
Lolno

First of all, it doesn't exist

And if it were


Zero is the absence of quantity. Can you divide by zero?, what happens when you multiply by 0?

Your claims are as childish as your arguments. Degree in math... LMAO.

>>18417455
>Zero is the additive identity
>Lolno
I don't know why I engaged. Look up what an additive identity is then look up what algebra is.

>>18417462
I asked you: can you divide by 0?, your defintiion is insufficient amd only applies to a small part of mathematics

Retard, you dont have a degree in shit

You should know better than to reply your lame attempts at trolling, retard

Imagine being so dumb you claim to have a degree in math but your arguments are so dumb they prove you asked chatgpt and repeated whatever it said without really understanding any of it, lmao

>>18417467
Your hands are shaking and your face is red. Calm down. Take a breath. Come back after you have had a chance to relax.

>>18417489
I am literally shaking right now

In fact, I am posting from my mother's boyfriend's phone because I broke mine in a fit of rage

>>18416130
>What exactly is contempt against forgivness, and why is it the one and only unforgivable sin?

>>18416130
>Like is it specifically denying the existence of forgivness

>>18416130
>what if you just say "forgiving people is ugly and stinky"? And then you run out and randomly fuck around? Will anyone ever find out about it?

>>18416130
>Isn't it morally fucked up to have an unforgivable sin? What if an atheist has contempt for the concept of forgiveness, but then, years later, they admit that forgivness exists when they want to be forgiven? Can't I just do that? Can't I just fuck around my whole life, and not have mercy on anyone, and not ever forgive anyone for anything, and then, as soon as I start to figure things out, cant I just say, "Lord, Lord, now that I am finding out, I believe in the idea of forgivness, because it benifits me personally and thats all that matters! Now you can forgive me, because you work for me, and all those people i fucked with and had no mercy on deserved it at the time! But hey, I believe in forgivness now, so its all good. Fuck them, and forgive me"

Chat gpt:
>can the holy spirit be interpreted as the concept of forgiveness?
Yes, the Holy Spirit can be interpreted as the active agent or presence of forgiveness in a believer's life. Rather than a direct definition, the Holy Spirit is understood to empower, guide, and enable the process of forgiving others and receiving God's forgiveness. It acts as a counselor that softens hearts to let go of resentment.

Do you really want the answer OP?

>>18416449
>This sin IS the rejection of forgivness.
Thats why it is not forgiven.
If you dont believe in the very concept of forgivness, and you have contemt for the very idea of forgivness, then your world view does not allow for YOU to be forgiven.

>>18417521
I can't forgive the Demiurge for trapping us in this pit of suffering.

>>18417527
I am no one's Dhimmi, but my urges are shared. There is a ladder that looks like a break in tradition, and its rungs are the sound of many waters.