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The pharisees were unironically right about Jesus. They were traditionalists defending their faith from a harmful subversive. If it was any context other than Jesus you would be calling them "based"
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Jesus was inherently revolutionary and progressive
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>>18416528
>3 When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders.
4 “I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood.” “What is that to us?” they replied. “That’s your responsibility.”
>5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

The pharisees did nothing to release people, restore the broken, and offer mercy. Jesus came to do the work of the Father.
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>>18416528
If Jesus returned today and acted the same way he did back then, everyone would just call him an insane cult leader.
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>>18416535
That's because he was an insane cult leader.
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>>18416534
empty platitudes, christian gobbledygook
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>>18416528
Jesus was just an even more extreme version of what the Jews did to everyone else, a Jewish tactic used against Jews
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>>18416528
>I want to understand what happened to them historically to make them as weird/unusual as they are

Jesus (their messiah) told them that they would be saved because of their whiteness because whiteness is of God, the external circumcision of God's people performed by God. The jews were unhappy with that because they wanted to be the only rulers of the earth, so they murdered him. Unfortunately for them their temple was destroyed soon after, and their religion as it was became impossible to follow. Most of them converted to christianity, accepting a place in the body of Christ to rule in God's name, but those that did not created talmud jew religion. Talmud jew religion is their plan to circumvent God's judgement, by killing ever white except themselves, thereby making themselves the default heir to the heavenly kingdom in spite of God's desire to save all of his people from death.

In the last few centuries most mainline christian churches became race blind, and themselves turned away from their purpose.

It is a sad condition, but that's how it actually is.
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>>18416528
Caiaphas was a Sadducee, retard. Not a Pharisee.
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>>18416528
Obviously
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>>18416528
I'm not a Jew so I don't mind them getting subverted.
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>>18416528
>>18416531
Pharisees were the secondary or third priesthood within the ethnotribe that sided with their own overthrowers in order to stamp out the leading priesthood and lineage of their own tribe.
Pharisees vs Saducees vs Essenes are basically Judah vs Levi vs Dan all over again.
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>>18416528
White people are weak gay cucks who sold out their ancestors to follow some random Jew that even his own people rejected lol.
Shows you the quality of white "civilization" lmfaooo. Christianity mogged whatever shitty drivel whitoids came up with on their own.
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>>18417095
whats tostiloco here yapping about
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>>18416531
The historical Jesus almost certainly maintained the jews' exclusive status as the chosen people.
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All the pharisees did was call the equivalent of the police at the time, which was roman legions to deal with the weird guy spreading conspiracy theories.
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>>18416528
The talmud also has some passages that criticise the pharisees. The talmud and the gospels are more similar than most people think they are especially e-christians.
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>>18417137
something about replacing your people idk
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>>18416571
Mental illness
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>>18416535
You don't even have to include the "back then" condition as there were others like Jesus at his time who claimed to be God or God's Chosen. None of them are worshipped today, mysteriously.
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>>18416571
Christogenea tranny posted it again
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>>18416528
The pharisees were a bunch of dabblers and they only went anywhere because they happened to be the only Jewish religious institution left standing after 70 A.D. Even then posterior Judaism rejected quite a bit of Pharisaic doctrine.
And as far as I can tell, all sects of judaism (besides his own followers ofc) seemed to oppose Jesus. Even John the Baptist's followers. Though its uncertain how much we can trust the info on the gospels.
>>18417164
As I understand it Talmudic Judaism arises from whatever remained of Judaism (mostly Pharisees) after the Roamn Jewish wars coalescing together. This would obviously include Saduccees and maybe even Essenes, right?
>>18416549
Thank you, Nietzsche.
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>>18416528
>Pharisees were traditionalists
No, they were also considered radical by the Sadducees and only rose to prominence after the temple was destroyed.
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Jesus was closer to some kind of Marxist liberation theology type than to whatever the hell it is modern Christians are doing with their megachurches and televangelists and prosperity gospel and dying for Israel
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>>18418380
>dying for Israel
I think that Jesus was a jewish supremacist just like most other jews and that he would be more sympathetic towards zionist christians than towards antisemitic christians.
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>>18418520
He clearly was
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>>18418551
If jesus is so great for jews then how come you arent a christian?
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>>18416528
The Saducees were the traditionalists OP
The Pharisees were interested in lawyering to find loopholes in the law
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>>18418562
For the same reason drug dealers don’t take their own drugs.
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>>18418566
The Sadducees also rejected Jesus though. Joseph ben Caiaphas was a Sadducee.
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>>18416528
Why have him executed? Seems a bit extreme, doesn't it?
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>>18418575
Caiaphas' logic for having Jesus' killed was that it'd be better to pin the blame on him as a dangerous heretic instead of risking a Roman reprisal on the whole population for conspiring a rebellion
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>>18418122
>there were others like Jesus at his time who claimed to be God or God's Chosen. None of them are worshipped today, mysteriously.
Same for Muhammad. Because Chrisitianity and Islam are just branches of same Judaism. Precisely, Christianity is Judaism adapted to Europe, and Islam is Christianity adapted to isolated desert tribes.
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>>18418614
Do you think it was extreme for the christian church to burn people at the stake?
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>>18416534
Who was in the room during this meeting that reported these quotes to the gospel authors? When was this individual interviewed? How good was their memory?
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>>18416534
>The pharisees did nothing to release people, restore the broken, and offer mercy.
Fell for propaganda award. They were unironically the most egalitarian group in 1st century Judea.
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>>18418830
The christian cope is
>ehm.. The gospel writers were inspired by the holy spirit. The holy spirit revealed these quotrs to them.
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>>18418852
This might be the most cringe image I've ever seen on this site
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>>18416528
Chuds hate to confront it but they're literally the same mental archetype as Zionists, literally every major Zionist figure would've been a German ethnonationalist instead if they weren't born Jewish.
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>>18418122
>there were others like Jesus at his time who claimed to be God
Any proof of that?
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>>18417146
What about “many are called but few are chosen”
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>>18418764
Yes



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