Germany used to have a vast coastline. What are some notable maritime traditions, folklore, and history from Germany’s former coastal regions?
>>18418158Kys
>>18418158Salt, beer and herring
>>18418158https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_LeagueMostly about trading within northern europe. There wasn't much military seafaring and farther trade was done by the big colonial states. Though I'm sure some germans were involved as well.
1) The original Prussians were actually Balts, like Latvians and Lithuanians.2) Pomerania was actually ruled by Sweden until 1815. 'King of Pomerania' was one of the titles of the rulers of Sweden for a while.3) Lubeck was one of the biggest ports on the Baltic Sea during the Medieval age.
>>18418158Idk about germany proper but german influenced norwegian language a great deal through trade
>>18418158I'm from the lower Rhineland so I'm not that well knowledgeable about the mythology of the german coastal region but one very popular figure is that of the Klabautermann. Translated into "noisy man" the Klabautermann is a ship ghost/spirit/kobold which is generally friendly towards the sailors. He warns them about impedind danger by showing himself directly but generally operates unseen - only the hammering noise he makes from caulking the ship is a sign of his presence (hence the name). And while he is a friendly spirite he is also mischievous. Appearance wise he is supposed to look like any other sailor but small, red haired and generally unkempt.Another mixture of myth and history is that of Klaus Störtebeker, which I will write about in my second post. >>18418186It was Duke of Pommerania, the swedish King was represented as the Duke of Pommerania within the Imperial Diet and the Duchy of Pommerania remained a part of the HRE. Interestingly the Elector of Brandenburg (later King in/of Prussia) also became the Duke of Pommerania as the Duchy was partitioned (one swedish and one brandenburg part) in the wake of the Peace of Westphalia and the title was simply given to the two respective rulers.
Klaus Störtebeker was a 14th century pirate who operated in the North and Baltic Sea. His concrete origin is unclear to this day but he is mentioned in several court documents so this person existed. He was one of the many leaders of the Victual Brothers - a band of privateers and pirates which primarily acted against the Kingdom of Denmark and were often in the pay of the Kingdom of Sweden and several hanseatic cities. Their most famous deed was running the danish blockade of Stockholm and supplying said city in the late 1380s. Störtebekers rise to fame began as the Victual Brothers were driven off the Gotland Island by the knights of the Teutonic Order. As with later privateers the Victual Brothers turned to actual piracy against neutral ships and thus became a thorn in the side of the large powers in the baltic. Störtebeker was able to find employment from various other smaller dukes and the frisian chiefs in northern Germany. From there he targeted the ships of the Hanse which were bound to England. At last he was captured in 1401 by a hanseatic flotilla near Helgoland. Störtebeker and his crew were to be beheaded in Hamburg and he tried to save his crew by offering up his legendary treasure, which the council of Hamburg refused. According to legend said treasure was found while breaking up Störtebekers flagship and the gold was used to clad one of Hamburgs church towers in gold. Anyways Störtebeker made one last bet: he was to be beheaded first and every man of his crew he was able to walk past after his beheading was to be set free. To this ridiculous bet the council agreed and lo and behold, the headless Störtebeker managed to walk past many of his comrades. Until the executioner had enough and threw his against between the legs of the walking body and in the end all pirates were executed as well. This myth is very well know and to this day research is done into this topic.
>>18418186The Germans Prussians came from Brandenburg and its surrounding territories, you fucking imbecile. The Baltic Prussians had nothing to do with the German Prussians besides making up a small, insignificant part of the what later becomes known as the German Prussia's genepool. They share the same name because Brandenburg (from which Prussian culture, the ruling elite and politics actually derive) inherited the baltic Prussian lands and renamed themselves to Prussia so they can bypass an important law in the HRE and proclaim themselves as a new kingdom. Claiming the Baltic Prussia were in any way the first lineage of the more knwon German Prussia is like claiming the American Settlers claim the same legacy as the American natives. They just share the same name because of a technicality, nothing more.
Related to the Frisian Chiefs. In contrast to the other princes of the HRE the frisians on the north atlantic coast were able to preserve a lot of their old tribal ways. According to legend Karl the Great afforded them the right of the "Frisian Freedom" which meant they enjoyed imperial immediacy - meaning that only the Emperor was their direct liege. In reality the sparse population and little economic potentials very likely just prevented the establishment of a feudal hierarchy in the frisian lands but that is neither here nor there. But this legendary origin of the Frisian Freedom was levied by the frisian chiefs succesfully to defend their independance well into the 16th century. In practice this meant that there was no serfdom in the frisian lands and politically every man had a say in the organisation of his small polity. The famous peasants of Dithmarschen were part of this system and as is well known were succesful in defending their freedom against the Kingdom of Denmark and Dukes of Schleswig on many occassions. At the end of the day however the early modern states were too powerful and the many of the frisian chiefs too became "normal" feudal rulers and were properly integrated into the political system of the late medieval world.Pic rel is an 18th century depiction of the "Upstalsboom" - in essence a place for the thing assembly of the all frisian tribes. This independence and "old and proper germanicness" was later heavily romanticized in the 19th century and especially the NSDAP.
>>18418186>Pomerania was actually ruled by Sweden until 1815. 'King of Pomerania' was one of the titles of the rulers of Sweden for a while.Duke of Pomerania, officially as a vassal of the Holy Roman Empire. Turning it into a kingdom would have required leaving the HRE, which they didn't want to do since Pomeranian membership gave Sweden a seat in the Imperial Diet, and would also have been pointless as Sweden was already a kingdom.
>>18418158Literally nothing
>>18418158Captain Iglos Fish sticks.
>>18418180Blueprint for Frankish-led Protestant unificationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alldutch_Movement
>>18418158Someone post the /ck/ bait image of the North German fish sandwiches
>>18418186German and Russian find common against the Sweden and Poland-Lithuania
>>18418361>dat Europa Universalis education
>>18419503No, I have read several books about Swedish and German early modern history.
>>18419065Couldn't find it but I do have this.
>>18418180Well several hanseatic cities were militarily quite powerful. As organised piracy in the baltic and north sea began in the 12th/13th centuries many hanseatic cities commissioned explicit warships (in contrast to the majority of the ships of the time which were dual purpose) to combat it. And the Hanse had impressive military feats - mainly against the Kingdom of Denmark: in 1368 they occupied and raised Copenhagen as well as the danish royal castle/palace and in 1435 they again warred against Denmark, won and were exempt from the tolls of the Øresund.Pic rel is an interpretation of the Bunte Kuh, which was the flagship of the hanseatic flotilla which hunted down the pirate Klaus Störtebeker.>and farther trade was done by the big colonial states. Well by the time the colonial states came into being the Hanse had practically ceased to exist. >>18419021Hardkek>>18419503He is right. There was no Kingdom of Pommerania and the Duchy of Pommerania (partitioned after 1648 into Swedish-Pomerania and Father Pomerania [Brandenburg]) remained part of the HRE. The swedish King was the Duke of Pomerania and thus had a seat in the Imperial Diet and the Duchy of Pomerania was never incorporated into the Kingdom of Sweden.
>>18419065This one?
>>18418361>>18419503It's less that becoming a king would require leaving the HRE as the HRE had kings, king of Italy, Germany, the Romans, and for an actual title of intrinsic value Bohemia as well as an attempt to make Burgundy a kingdom, of course the first three were just titles held by the emperor or his heir making them largely redundant in practice. The issue with becoming a king is that it would be a direct challenge to imperial authority and power, and while there was no law mandating one king, in practice there was. Plus Pomerania was considered part of the Kingdom of Germany and declaring Pomerania a kingdom in its own right would entail declaring independence from the kingdom of Germany which would be an act of war.There's a reason that there was the title King IN Prussia, as Prussia wasn't part of the empire and by relegating their royal title to an area outside of the empire they didn't directly challenge imperial authority.
>>18419620>the Duchy of Pomerania was never incorporated into the Kingdom of Sweden.Pomerania was never de jure incorporated, but it was de facto a part of Sweden run by a military governor who took orders from Stockholm, though somewhat loosely integrated with alot of special privileges for the local nobility.
>>18418180Let me tell you something, nigger.Since your ape language is incapable of making the necessary differentiation: In German, we distinguish between the Baltic tribe of the 'Prußen' and the branch of Germans called 'Preußen'. You just call both of them 'Prussians'. We also linguistically differentiate between Native Americans ('Indianer') and pajeets ('Inder'). Why are you too stupid to come up with a useful new name? A single letter would suffice. You anglo niggers make me sick.
>>18419877>Baltic tribe of the 'Prußen' and the branch of Germans called 'Preußen'. You just call both of them 'Prussians'.Same people who founded modern Germany.
>>18420099The old prussians were a minority of the new east prussians, which were a minority of the kingdom of prussia (most of them were brandenburgers, i.e. germans and germanized slavs).
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>>18420126Yes, they were (part) slavic, not baltic.
>>18419622LelEven the cheapest nordsee brand sandwiches have some lettuce and sauce.
>>18420176There is no need to sow discord between slavs and germans, polish and russian propaganda do that well enough on their own.
>>18419769Yes, the Governor-General had to be a member of the swedish high nobility but the constitution of Swedish-Pomerania (the Regimentsform of 1663) explicitly states that the existing pomeranian institutions were to be unaltered and only staffed by pomeranians. And the pomeranian estates were often able to content with the swedish kings, who were never quite able to fully integrate said Duchy into Sweden proper.
>>18419622>>18420179I would kill for a Seelachs with some good garlic+dill sauce
No idea but I can inform you that Hanseatic/northeast coastal German was closer to Swedish/Danish of the time than it was to central German/proto-standard at the time.
