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how do christians and other creationists cope with the fact that our brain is merely cells interacting with each other and "free will" isn't an actual thing as everything about you is predetermined by your brain chemistry.
How about the fact that one day neuroscience will be so advanced that our brains can be completely manipulated and new brains created by humans?
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>>18419407
True. And if I raped your mom, your anger about it would just be chemical signals in your brain, so it wouldn't mean anything.
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>>18419407
Carl Sagan pointed out that if you were to take all the constituent molecules of the average human, it would only be about $1.00 worth of water and charcoal with some other trace material. His argument was that humans are worth more than the sum of their parts because of information that allows these parts to be assembled in a very specific way. It wasn't really a religious thought experiment, as Carl Sagan wasn't a religious man of course, but it was meant to demonstrate that information has intrinsic value. You can, however, make the same argument for our own brains, that they're far greater than the sum of its parts, and that the idea that our consciousness is trivial as it's just a bunch of electrical signals is extremely reductionist and doesn't actually say anything about the consciousness as an emergent property of these constituent signals that we still don't fully understand and may never fully understand.
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>>18419411
>>18419413
if you put salt in water, who's at fault for the salt dissolving?
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>>18419407
>how do (stupid bad faith question) if (supposition I know the people the question is addressed to would reject) is correct?
Either 1. God is real, but not merciful. In which case this board will continue to suffer the presence of theologyfaggots
2. God is real, and merciful. In which case this board will one day be free of theologyfaggots.
3. God is not real. In which case, this board will never be free of theologyfaggots.
4. God is not real, but hiroshimoot is merciful. In which case this board will one day be free of theologyfaggots.
Discuss /hus/kun's wager.
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>>18419416
If you farted and shit came out and stained your undies, who's at fault for the sharted undies?
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>>18419413
I am from Burundi, speak for yourself.
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>>18419407
Christians were against free will initially since free will contradicts omniscience
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>>18419419
>needing to make a stupid comment because you have no argument
concession accepted
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>>18420060
Spoken like a man with sharted undies.
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>>18420082
your religion is this easy to disprove? pathetic
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>>18419407

Wrong

Self conciousness (maybe you chuds dont have it) means that there is something else than matter and energy.
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>>18419411
Fpbp.

And to top it off if I turned around and raped OP as well it would be like raping a pillowcase because consciousness doesn't exist and it would be pretty much equivalent
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>>18420087
As opposed to yours, which by all means is airtight. Right?
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>>18420087
Can't hear you over the sound of you sharting your undies, lil guy. Maybe you should try formulating an argument instead of sharting chunks.
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>>18419407
>le... le nothing matters... because... because... chemicals...
Zamn, I bet you get lots of updoots on reddit when you post this.
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>>18420169
Yep. Nothing matters because, unless you're racist or transphobic. That matters.
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>>18420136
>Implying anything exists at all but [I]
"Everything that exists without my knowledge, exists without my consent."



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