was this the most kino moment in history?
>>18419471When Dhiraar ibn Azwar slaughtered hundreds of byzantrannies by himself while wearing no shirt and no armor
>>18419471>DEUS VULT
>>18419471@mods pin this
>>18419471>says the self proclaimed Messiah (king of the Jews)
>>18419560fr
>>18419471Jesus was a Jew.
>>18419471The related pic is not historical.
>>18419471>"Thanks G-d, this will now be the last we hear of Jesus and his following...">camera pans to behind the Jew, where Jesus is seen nonchalantly walking around, sparing one warm smirk to the camera
>>18419471>Jesus comes back>story just endsWhat happened after he came back?
>>18419804They killed the man, not his life.
>>18419776i leaped out of my chair and shouted "KINO ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!" 3 times at the screen when that happened
Is the goal of these threads to make christianity look like a reddit religion?
>>18420506Unfortunately, being a universal faith and not a mystery-based one, Christianity is both fully cringe and fully based.
>>18419471In order to be a moment in history, it had to have really happened, and that didn't really happen.
>>18419471When god's sons came to earth to put their seed in earthly women to create the nephililim.
>>18420527>and that didn't really happenproof?
>most kino momentprobably that first gig Lumière brothers did, can outkino that
>>18420557How is it possible to prove that something did not happen?
>>18420621prove that the eye witnesses were wrong
>>18420729Anecdotal evidence doesn't really lend itself to much credibility without other corroborating evidence to support it
>>18420732did nero exist?
>>18420734This isn't about whether or not Jesus himself exists anon, it's about whether or not he rose from the cave after 3 days or whatever
>>18420732We have 11 disciples and a couple hundred followers claim they saw Jesus walk among the living post resurrection. These witneses faced severe punishment. We know that Nero has public records of crucifying some of the disciples who claimed Jesus rose from his grave. If these men were merely scam artists why didn't a single follower of Christ just state it was a fabrication? 12 out of 13 of Jesus' disciples were crucified for their belief that Jesus resurrected. If I were part of a scam and all I had to do to face a lesser punishment was rat out on my co conspirators I would gladly do so, especially considering that the punishment was a torturous death. Why didn't any of Jesus' followers try to save themselves once the jig was up?
>>18420783>If I were part of a scam and all I had to do to face a lesser punishment was rat out on my co conspirators I would gladly do soProbably they did rat each other out, why you think so many of them got caught? but Nero still had lions eat their face, cuz he thought it was hilarious
>>18420737the evidence of jesus being alive after execution is as plentiful as the existence of nero
>>18420791They got caught because they preached publicly about the risen Christ. They were spreading the good news that the Son of Man is the Son of God.
>>18420527>1. I'm a fag.>2. God hates fags.>3. Therefore God is 'bad'.>4. God is supposed to be 'good'.>5. Therefore God does not exist.ftfy
>>18420797I don't understand why you think Nero would let them go
>>18420729there were no eye witnesses
>>18420803there's as much evidence for jesus as there is for caesar
>>18420783>We have a couple hundred followers claim they saw Jesus walk among the living post resurrection.No.We have Paul (1 guy) claiming that 500 people saw the risen Jesus. We do not have these hundreds of claims you are talking about.
>>18420803who wrote the books then?
>>18420805actual brainrot
>>18420807>polling is all fake because the polled people didn't independently testify their answer
>>18420811name one (1) eye witness testimony for caesar we have written down
>>18420813You do not have hundreds of claims.
>>18420814history turns into gibberish if you remove caesar from it it would leave enormous plot holes in the historical canonnot so if you take the funding origins of a small cult on the outskirts of rome and suppose their magic founder was made upthat would leave relatively microscopic questions to answer, history still make sense these are not comparable
>>18420815your idea of hydrogen only having one electron is incorrect because you only heard your one chemistry teacher say that, even though he heard from other people that it was true despite him never doing an empirical experiment to verify that
>>18420822history turns into gibberish if you remove Jesus from itit would leave enormous plot holes in the historical canonliteral empires have been built to worship him and he's shaped history more than caesar hasthese are absolutely comparable and you're a retard faggot
>>18420824This is a dumb comparison because we do chemistry involving hydrogen every day that only works because it only has a single electron.
>>18420824You do not have hundreds of claims.I don't understand why you are so combative about this.
>>18420826>literal empires have been built to worship himYou understand that these empires would still be built all the same if he was made up, right? Jesus did not play a part in building them. STORIES about Jesus played a part.
>>18420827how do you know the mechanism for those reactions is because it only have one electron? maybe it has 3 electrons and the first valence ring can support 4 electrons. you wouldn't know that unless you actually took an electron microscope and saw it yourself. you are trusting the word of someone else that had the privilege to run those experiments. if the gospel writers saw it and they themselves wrote that additional people saw it, then i can reasonably assume that paul is correct when he says hundreds of people told him they they also saw it. that is why i trust what my chemistry teacher told me
>>18420836You are changing the topic.You do not have hundreds of claims.
>>18420835>Jesus did not play a part in building them. STORIES about Jesus played a part.does it really make that much a difference? there is no first hand testimony of anyone older than 1850 or whatever, did they exist or are we just talking about stories?
>>18420840how many claims are there?
>>18420846Yes it matters.Empires being equally explainable without an historical Jesus, means they are not evidence of an historical Jesus.The Roman empire gets VERY hard to explain without Caesar. They are not comparable.
>>18420851You told me there was a couple of hundreds.
>>18420861idk for history and humanities cutting out like 90% of western religion and it's impact on western culture is kind of retarded to believe it has no effectwhether jesus literally came to life or not is a moot point because we collectively believe(d) he did for 2000 years. It doesn't matter if he was real, he has a real impact and will be remembered forever. You will die forgotten however, because you're a smug niggerfaggot from r/atheist
>>18420863no i didn't. there was a different anon that you were talking to, and i jumped into the thread afterwards. should i discredit your first-hand experience because you were mistaken?
>>18420867>cutting out like 90% of western religion and it's impact on western culture is kind of retarded to believe it has no effectWhich I am not doing.I am cutting out the character Paul is telling us stories about.
>>18420873You do not have hundreds of claims.
>>18420879ok
>It doesn't matter if he was reale-christians are something else..
>>18420836>if the gospel writers saw it and they themselves wrote that additional people saw it, then i can reasonably assume that paul is correct when he says hundreds of people told him they they also saw itYes. IF the Bible is true, then the Bible is true. That tracks.
>>18420877>christianity doesn't exist>nothing changes whatsoeverthis is your brain on redditalso jesus did exist, the gospels are nearly perfect eye witness accounts for jewish practices in that era with several references to real politicians and figures. Crucifixion's was a regular punishment for the worst of society. Jesus is remembered because he had followers who became founders of the largest religion in the west. It would make less sense for Jesus to be made up than a real guy
>>18420888>if the tacitus annals is true, then the tacitus annals is true
>>18420892Christianity still exist, it's just made-up.
>>18420899Paul's claim about 500 claims are not interesting if I'm being asked to just grant that the gospels are true.
>>18419471nigga, learn about the Avatar of the Kali Yuga
>>18419804try turning the page to the next section of your bible, it goes into detail of what happened next
>>18420814https://www.attalus.org/cicero/ligarius.html
If Jesus immediately came back to life doesn't that undermine the whole point of his sacrifice? He was out for a weekend.
