The whole race committed suicide for no reason
>>18419916>for no reasonthey didn't want to line into a literal cross-road from Jerusalem to Antioch
>>18419916>Hate Romans>Delusions of grendeur borne from Maccabee revolt>Religious extremists force others to join their retarded rebellion or die>A fairly big victory vindicates their delusions until the empire gets serious and slaps their shitIf they were at a less important crossroad of the empire like in Northeastern Anatolia or Germania or something they probably could have gotten Rome to fuck off after a bad defeat, but surrendering Judea would cut off a land route from Egypt to Syria and Anatolia so short of wiping out like a dozen legions Rome wasn't going to realistically back down and even if they lost a dozen legions probably would have returned a generation later anyway.
>>18419916>jews>pig headed>kek
>>18419916Jewish rebels were the ancient equivalent of Jihadists, this one was like ISIS in its pretense to statehood
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>>1841991699% of the population were rural farmers who played littlele to no part in the rebellion and continued living and farming through it and after it. And in fact remain there today as Palestinians, having changed their religion and language to suit whoever their current overlord is. The rebellion and subsequent diaspora was centered around the cities and urban classes and priesthood living in them.
>>18420758over a million jewish civilians were killed, enslaved and deported to rome, or dispossessed and fled to the east
>>18420765And that contradicts my point how? No one denies that the war was a very bad time (especially if you were an urban dweller). But a lot of people died or fled when the Romans destroyed Carthage too, but that didn't mean that all the subsistence farmers of northern Tunisia died too. So the Jewish "race" didn't "commit suicide", as genetically the same people were mostly living there. You could say it was "cultural suicide" though, as Cities, especially back then, were where cultural identities solidified and propagated, and with the cities "de-judaified" the rural majority no longer had any authority to define or reinforce their identity as "Jews". Which made it easy for the Romans, and the Christians, and the Arabs, and whoever else to bring different cultural ideas and religions into their lives.
>read about the first jewish-roman war and the siege of jerusalem>them jew niggas were constantly backstabbing and fighting each otherWhy though
>>18420765The diaspora is not real and Josephus exaggerates the impact of the first Jewish war to such a ridiculous extreme it's insane that people still parrot the idea. Same goes for Hadrian's romanization of the province. The majority of Jews stayed put and eventually converted to Christianity/Islam over the centuries, meaning the Palestinians are more than likely the descendents of the original Jews of the bible. The typical modern Israeli as we known them today is the descendent of European converts who have no blood ties to the land, whose ancestors lived in modern day Germany, Poland, Russia, Ukraine, etc. It's a successful colonization scheme by a bunch of European converts playing pretend. You can defend the actions of Israel or decry them, but you can't seriously tell me that there's an unbroken genetic line between the average Jewish person who moved from Brooklyn NY to Tel Aviv in the 70s and the people of Solomon and David. Or that atheist zionists like Theodore Herzl who used cynically biblical imagery to justify their nation-building and trick retarded Evangelicals into supporting them have anything in common with Bar Kochba. It's ludicrously stupid. It would be like me as an Amerifat claiming to have Native American ancestry and dressing up like an Apache.
>>18420779Religious zealotry inevitably leads to infighting. It provokes an autistic level of inflexibility in your beliefs, which means groups of zealots coming together WILL kill each other eventually, as they won't 100% agree, and even if the leadership can tolerate it, the rank and file will eventually end up getting violent.Also the average person was fairly ignorant, so >The romans will inevitably be back within a few years, and will bring more men than before just wasn't a concept they fully grasped.End result, there's no outside threat, and even if there is, hid is our greatest weapon- either way time to kill those fucking heretics before yaweh turns us into salt.
>>18420802>The typical modern Israeli as we known them today is the descendent of European convertsThat's nonsense. They are genetically ptoven to be middle eastern, with some european dna through race mixing and stealing european women especially italian women. Ashkenazi jews have more european dna than sephardi jews but they are still genetically middle eastern or a mix and many of them are arab looking. Most israelis are also not ashkenazi jews. They are sephardi jews and mizrahi jews. Mizrahi jews are basically arab jews. They have no or almost no european dna.Look at israelis. Most of them don't look different from palestinians.You are spouting bullshit.Claiming that modern jews are just european converts is anti-white propaganda.>Or that atheist zionists like Theodore HerzlIt doesn't matter if he was an atheist or not. Judaism is an ethnic religion. Their nation matters most for them.
>>18420758>>18420802All Jewish numbers are lies.
>>18420802>The diaspora is not real and Josephus exaggerates the impact of the first Jewish war to such a ridiculous extreme it's insane that people still parrot the idea.Josephus was a proto-Mizrachi that allied with Rome because he recognized the Carthaginian existence (Phoenician proto-Sephardi kin) within Roman ranks, that fought against the proto-Ashkenazim hold on power that [the latter] were loyal to the Persians/Parthians.There's a fringe theory attesting that the Punic wars were the first set of Roman-Semitic wars, simply because the Carthaginians were an offshoot (banished?) of the Semites. The Roman-Jewish wars were the second set of Roman-Semitic wars, with implied undertones, of elements, being a very complex covert form of civil war.Josephus & his scriptoria in Yabne/Yavne and Tiberias masterfully combed the tendency of the Ashkenazim to abandon faith & identity. The reason Josephus, the sage, are culturally demonized is because the proto-Ashkenazim that lost power, wounding up in Central Europe, evolved over time to have a proeminent role in writing & interpreting history their own way. That's why the stereotypical “court Jews” were Ashkenazi, that's why the first assimilationists (ex. Judah Monis, Mendelssohn...) were Ashkenazi, that's why Marx invented communism (hurting against Britain's sephardic), that's why the French Jews were very cautious & wary in supporting Dreyfus, and so on.
>>18420802>>18421137>Same goes for Hadrian's romanization of the province. The majority of Jews stayed put and eventually converted to Christianity/Islam over the centuries, meaning the Palestinians are more than likely the descendents of the original Jews of the bible. The typical modern Israeli as we known them today is the descendent of European converts who have no blood ties to the land, whose ancestors lived in modern day Germany, Poland, Russia, Ukraine, etc. It's a successful colonization scheme by a bunch of European converts playing pretend. Nonsense. The Ashkenazim are Jews, in two-fold substrates: self-loving and self-loathing. Self-loving overcame their generational hatred of being who they are & embrace their identity/existence as Jews. Self-loathing that still refuse to accept whom they are in the world and still callously & stubbornly resisting from facing the fact that they hate their Jewish mother.
>>18421137>>18421155>You can defend the actions of Israel or decry them, but you can't seriously tell me that there's an unbroken genetic line between the average Jewish person who moved from Brooklyn NY to Tel Aviv in the 70s and the people of Solomon and David.Why would Europeans adopt a religion that isn't their own, that they don't understand in the first place? Do you not see how utterly ridiculous this assessment is? Not only is it anti-Semitic at its core but, it's anti-European as well – as if Europeans didn't had nothing else to do other than casually skinwalk a religion/faith for no reason at all. >Or that atheist zionists like Theodore Herzl who used cynically biblical imagery to justify their nation-building and trick retarded Evangelicals into supporting them have anything in common with Bar Kochba. Herzl might've had his own innermost troubles to overcome, him acknowledging being a Jew isn't one of them. >It's ludicrously stupid. It would be like me as an Amerifat claiming to have Native American ancestry and dressing up like an Apache.You're most likely a schmuck pretending to be an American goy and you hate it being that fact.
