The local trolls get extremely angry when you say the Romans (or the greeks) were "Aryans", but it turns out the Romans themselves identified as Aryans. This surprised me because, besides the med vs. nord memes, the Romans actually used the term Aryan for themselves, and apparently the Greeks did too.
>>18420825We know.>In 1938 Mussolini was concerned that if Italian Fascism did not recognise Nordic heritage within Italians, that the Mediterranean inferiority complex would return to Italian society. Therefore, in summer 1938, the Fascist government officially recognised Italians as having Nordic heritage and being of Nordic-Mediterranean descent in the Manifesto of Race and in a meeting with PNF members, and in June 1938 in a meeting with PNF members, Mussolini identified himself as Nordic and declared that previous policy of focus on Mediterraneanism was to be replaced by a focus on Aryanism. Mussolini in July 1938 declared that Italians had strong Nordic heritage particularly through the heritage of the Germanic Lombards
>>18420859Not all Aryans are Nordic.
>>18420825Why doesn't anyone talk about this? I searched the internet and only found "Aryanism
Even if they did, it doesn't really matter what terms they used. We all know why you're trying to do this, and it's not sticking. You totally lost on genetics so now you're trying to play around with sophistry like this. The Romans were not pure Bell Beakers from northern Germany, and the Greeks had the lowest steppe in Europe and were more genetically akin to Levantine Arabs than whites.
>>18420878>Even if they didThey did. Please, cry.>it doesn't really matter what terms they used. Unless the term is Aryan, isn't that right, my tropical friend?>We all know why you're trying to do thisSchizophrenic.>You totally lost on genetics so now you're trying to play around with sophistry like this. Who else did you talk to about genetics?>The Romans were not pure Bell Beakers from northern GermanyYes, like all bell beakers derived pops,Romans came from Bell Beakers. So did the Celts. This is what dna shows. Sorry the Iran N admixture did not make Romans Italic (nor did it make Greeks Indo-European). Also Etruscans having Bell Beakers dna is not changing the Bell Beaker links to Italic-Celtic.>and the Greeks had the lowest steppe in Europe Logkas has 40% steppe.>and were more genetically akin to Levantine Arabs than whites.No, tropical tard, they weren't. Republic Romans are modelled as 50% Germany Bell BeakerArius romans chads
Remember, tropitards Romans are from Italic tribes which came from Bell Beakers groups from Central Europe. They share a linguistic and even a genetic origin with the Celts who also came from Central Europe and called themselves Arius https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.12.02.626332v1Aryan victory fuscus fear the arius
>>18420864Not all Aryans are Nordic, but all Nordics are Aryans.>In 2024, 6 individuals of Etruscan remains from Tarquinia, Lazio, dated the 9th-7th Century BC, were studied and confirmed the previous finds, Etruscans were an Italian population. The admixture model showed that they were 84-92% Italy Bell Beaker and 8-26% additional Yamnaya Samara (Steppe-related) ancestry, but with one individual being more similar to Iron Age populations from Scandinavia, and north-west Europe>Phenotypic traits showed blue-eyes, light/dark brown hair, and pale to intermediate skin tones
>>18420887>>18420903They didn't called themselves arianStop lying around
>>18420904What about Saami?
Also, some italics had high steppe/aryan ancestry.Samnite with 40% steppe(Italia_BA_Grotta_Delle_Mura NEO806__BC_1060) and an Etruscan with 40% steppe (Etruscan_Tarquinia_ITTQ11)Arius victory
>>18420906They did, like greeks
>>18420887>They did. Please, cry.Don't care.>Unless the term is Aryan, isn't that right, my tropical friend?Don't care.>Schizophrenic.I know what your intentions are and I can already tell what you think about the populations of modern Southern Europe.>Who else did you talk to about genetics?Don't know.>Yes, like all bell beakers derived pops,very diluted from Bell Beaker populations>Logkas has 40% steppe.Logkas is not Greek. Maybe proto-Greek. You citing Logkas as Greek shows what you're about. Irrelevant to even Mycenaean Greece let alone Classical.>No, tropical tard, they weren't. Republic Romans are modelled as 50% Germany Bell Beaker50% is not the same population any longer.
>>18420910
>>18420903>>18420887The illiterate and ugly Ecuadorian doesn't understand that the bell beakers who arrived in Italy already had EEFgroid ancestry and the Romans were descendants of these same bell beakers i
>>18420918Yes, Tropitard is attacking a scarecrow he created. Notice that nobody said they were "pure Bell Beakers," absolutely nobody, haha. But he gets furious when he learns that they derive from the same group that gave rise to the Celts>>18420912I didn't read that, to be honest. You've already lost and been humiliated, cry more. Much more, and remember:>>18420903
>>18420911Sources?
>>18420825I'm Italian, we have some personal names containing "arius"... very interesting.
Both Romans and Greeks were low steppe high anatolian farmer, same as the modern southern European populations, the mentally ill nordishitter barbarian as always is desperately coping itt>>18420904You will never be Etruscan potato faced blonde ugly nordoid, you lack the dark curly hair you crave so much. It's funny how people who look like Oliver Khan want to be meds so desperately while you never see the opposite, the self hate must be through the roof
>>18420924See the thread pic, blind
>>18421050Some random roman being called ''Arius'' means that the Romans collectively called themselves ''Aryans'', what kind of idiotic leap of ''logic'' is this lol? This is just nazicel fanfiction, as usual Might as well say that the Romans were ''Fabians'' because there were lots of Fabius
>>18420825thats a fucking personal name you retard. Like tom. Please stop sharing how fucking gorilla tier retarded you are with people.
>>18420974etrusci is literally the same root word/naming convention as kievan rus retard, routsi=rower, the exonym for swedes, cherusci is the same naming convention also (kherusci=khemerian routsi), etrusci likely comes from (l)at(in) routsi, it's also possible that they were originally just called routsi and the latins added the (et) because it made it easier to for them to pronounce or say with their hands (better rhythm)
>>18421216meds
Aryan literally doesnt exist.
>>18421264Retard
>>18420923What are you using for automated translation? Maybe I can help you find something better.I don't think most popular LLMs make mistakes like that so have you tried using ChatGPT or Gemini to make a good translation?
>>18420913>>18420903So what's the problem here then?
>>18421471NTA There's an imbecile here saying that the Romans looked like people from the Middle East, that's all. But look how the subject veered from the term Aryan to Haploautism for some magical reason
>>18421055the retard in question who posted that in that thread found literally over 100 matches for the use of this term kek the Romans were Arian cope and seeth
>>18421201>>18421055Sameflag to BTFoSeveral Iranian groups like Persians, Scythians, Sarmatians also used the term Aryan in personal names.In celtic It appears in names like Ariogaisus Ariobindus Ariovistus and in Persian "xšviwi.išvatəmō airyanąm" "the fastest of the Aryans", "arša airyanąm" "the hero of the Aryans".These uses as an ethnonym are like the Romans'. You lost again these places used this term in personal names and as an ethnonym, so logically the Romans also used it as an ethnonym. YOU LOST IT>like tomIt's not an ethnonym
how long until british israelism threads?
>>18420825I am the user who made this postas my BF here said>>18421055t's a personal name that isn't even related to Aryan because it's not in the lexicon.Eurocope lost
>>18421555I don't know, but you and your friends are here crying.
>>18421561>I am the user who made this postYou're not.You lost.KYS in shame.
>>18421577They pretend to be other posters in every single thread because they're sore losers with no arguments.
>>18421561>>18421555>>18421201>>18421050Sameflag fuck off you lost
>>18421585>>18421580thats a fucking personal name and not related to haryah
>>18421605meds, and fuck off to facebook
>>18421630Please continue crying. The Romans called themselves Aryans, whether you like it or not.
>>18421625>not related to haryahYou lost. Cry yourself to sleep.
Tard bros? Our answer? Romans did in fact called themselves Aryans
>>18420910>>18420913this is some western european slave, not even nordic, but rather some english/french slave with samnite mastersand then the romans came and conquered all of western europe
>>18421752>nordic>nordic>nordiclow-quality strawman, lil monkey Nobody said Nordic here, only that they were Aryan and had high steppe in certain cases. Who, besides your mother who cheated on your father with a Nordic, said they were Nordic?
Arius with 40% steppe baded
>>18421735We lostRomaARYANS make us cry
it's overthe 10% steppe romans genocided the 40% steppe western europeansmeds > barbarians
umm western european sisters?our response?
>>18421853>>18421859what's got jaan the fleming sizzling this time
>>18421859CherrypickedBritain is almost invincible and kicked spajeet asses several times
>>18421878umm anglo sisters?our response?
>>18421891i don't speak moortuguese joao, can you translate that
why is anyone still pretending like aryans aren't just iranians and that a ton of this stuff is just made up to fit an agenda?
>>18421900>ton of this stuff is just made up to fit an agenda?Yes, I agree. A ton of bullshit was spewed by people with an agenda who insisted that only Indo-Iranians called themselves Aryans. It amounts to a religious belief instilled by post-WW2 political correctness.
>>18421912Indo-Iranians didn't call themselves Aryan either.
>>18421912It doesn't matter, we all know that the origin and root of the word refers to iranian people. it has nothing to do with any other people group.
>>18421919You are wrong.The ethnonym sense goes back to PIE. That's why there's a Celtiberian inscription which refers to Aryans in the plural of a collective noun.The word used is ⟨araianom⟩. ⟨araia-⟩ is an ā-stem (< Proto-Celtic *ari̯ā- < PIE */h2eri̯-eh2-/) which is to be read as a collective noun, the same type of collective noun as Proto-Celtic *toutā "people, tribe"https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Celtic/tout%C4%81The ending ⟨-nom⟩ is the genitive plural. This means ⟨araianom⟩ must be read as "of the Aryan peoples/tribes". The use of a collective here is astounding. It allows us to see quite explicitly that there existed this Aryan identity that applied to groups of people.The inscription refers to the god Lugus as "Lugus of the Aryan peoples".Celtiberian inscription located here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe%C3%B1alba_de_Villastar>To the mountaineer and..., to Lugus of the Aryan peoples/tribes, in rural procession we came. For the mountaineer and the equestrian, for Lugo, the chief of the community raised a roof/covering, (also) a roof for the thiasusWhy is Lugus a god of the Aryan peoples though? When you understand that Lugus (Irish: Lugh) is the Celtic version of Agni, it makes a lot of sense.https://www.academia.edu/114396519/The_Irish_myth_of_Balars_killing_by_Lug_the_Norse_myth_of_Baldrs_killing_by_Loki_and_the_Indic_myth_of_the_Wounded_Sun
>>18421940These are different words. Aryan and araianom are two different words. Aryan is the Iranian word. araianom means shrine or some shit.
>>18421945meds
>>18421900You're wrong>>18421940Romans, Greeks, Germanics, Celts called themselves aryans. Btfo again
>>18421940>Lugh>AgniRetarded.>god of the Aryan peoplesIndra and aryaman
>>18422015>RetardedGinevra's papers on comparative mythology are high quality.>>god of the Aryan peoples>Indra and aryamanEver heard of polytheism?
>>18421940I'm trying to find the transcription and I'm having trouble. I can identify where lvgvs is mentioned, but nothing about aryans.
>>18422010It would be more beneficial to learn the specific words they used and where they came from
>>18422015Just stop you retarded shitskin, cry more
>>18422045Yes, all from h2ér-yo.The same with iranic aryah
>>18422021Agni (अग्नि) is the Sanskrit word for "fire," originating from the Proto-Indo-European h1n̥gʷnís nothing to do with Lugh not even a fire god
>>18422053I would have to see more of the linguistics there
>>18420825Is there anything more retarded than people who play with dolls about things 5k years in the past?
>>18422050You are a nordicist who hates Southern Europeans and anyone could tell that within seconds even though you tried (poorly) to hide it. That's the entire point with these linguistic games and what you're trying to do here. Lost on DNA, now you will try and argue with empty logical fallacies. You even implied the Etruscans were Swedish >>1842121 that's a new low even for nordicists. It's ok, whites are going extinct anyways and I'm cheering that on as a Med and yeah people like you are to blame.
>>18422064You're being deliberately retarded, but that's okay, we can humiliate youIn Proto-Indo-European, there was a word */h2eryós/ [h2aryós], composed of */h2er-yós/. The *h2 was likely pronounced /χ/ (uvular fricative) and later /ħ/ (pharyngeal fricative). This sound was lost in many Indo-European languages, and */χe/ [χa] became /a/. The suffix */-yós/ formed adjectives that could become nouns. Accentuation is inconsistent in Greek and Sanskrit, suggesting the suffix could also be */-yos/. There was an accent retraction process that nominalized adjectives, so there may have been an original distinction */χéryos/ (noun) ~ */χeryós/ (adjective). The */χéryos/ version exists in Sanskrit.
>>18422070>>18422050Off topic losers out
>>18422070>It's ok, whites are going extinct anyways and I'm cheering that on as a Med and yeah people like you are to blame.You got btfo on DNA, primary historical sources, religion, language, and your last refuge is>haha white birthrates are lower than average over the past 50 yearsLike I said, cry more shitskin. You’re crying over the fact you’re not aryan, not Roman, and will die named Mohamed Mohamed in a hovel in the middle of nowhere.
>>18422079I'm not being retarded, I'm trying to learn. There is nothing you can do to humiliate me.
>>18422065You play the cuckold game with your wife and think it's great, so what's your point?
>>18422089Yes, sorry, you are not being. You ARE retard. Totally differents things>I'm trying to learnYes>>18421940 The word χári̯os existe in Celtic, Italic, and Germanic.
>>18420825If it was used by the Italics and Celts, then it must be concluded that it was an Italo-Celtic word. How would this reconstruction look?
>>18422096you know that acting like this makes your argument more suspect. no idea why you're acting so sensitive.
>>18422010>>18422053>>18422079it seems to me that this interpretation is not well supported by most scholars of PIE, but that doesn't mean there isn't some connection between the words. either way, it's definitely not this simple.
>>18422105They probably hadn't lost their *H laryngeal
>>18422115>seems to meWell, you can think whatever you want, the value of your personal opinion on this matter is irrelevant.But since we're talking about consensus, some authors with tremendous bibliographies and who are well-cited include: Mallory, Adams, Ranko Matasović, Julius Pokorny, and more recent authors like John D. Bengtson.Everyone contributes to and credits these etymologies in fact, this thread is just the tip of the iceberg as there are cognates in Anatolic and even in languages like Lepontic, in addition to the veneration of Aryaman.Your turn bro which authors deny or refute these etymologies?>it's definitely not this simple.Its actually is, from PIE h2ér-yoPS: Wikipedia doesn't count.>>18422106I accept your defeat
>>18422117Why do you think that? Italo-Celtic wasn't even reconstructed, and it's too late to retain any kind of laryngeal structure Proto-Greek didn't inherit laryngeal structures either since its creation in 2200 BC
>>18422122I will have to look more into it, this is interesting to me and I'm eager to learn more. No need to make things personal, we both should be just trying to figure out what words people used without making it about your identity.at best, Arya shares a root with the hypothetical *h2eryós, but is still it's own word that has been used to refer to iranians.
>>18422138it is interesting that the only one of these that seems to denote superiority is the indo-iranian and irish to a lesser extent
>>18422132You haven't answered anything at all, >aryaNo, you're wrong again The Proto-Indo-Iranian word is *Hari̯ás, not arya.>but is still it's own word that has been used to refer to iranians>>18422147Ethnonym>>18421940Not really, the same root was used by romans, Celts, Germanics and even Anatolians its a PIE ethnonym
Delamarre and Koch also agreeNow, who's "most scholars"? I wonder who these gifted individuals are who have refuted widely accepted etymologies.Pic from some old threadarāš as "member of one's own (ethnic) group, peer, companion, friend
>>18422174Sources:>not related >its not related >Yes hmm its not related >ok but its not related >no >fake
>>18422174I won't be able to look up more stuff right now, I'm busy
I was browsing desuarchive.org and found something quite kink like Xerxes, Achilles was considered an Aryan
>>18422194that isn't what that is saying
>>18422194Yes, but actually the term “Arian” had been in use since the Mycenaean period, and “Aristo” was used in various names. Ironically, the Greeks used this term before the Persians did, haha.
>>18422200It says Achilles was an Aryan, just as Persian literature says Xerxes was an Aryan—both Aryans derived from Proto-Indo-European :^) >>18422203But the Mycenaeans were not Hellenes
>>18422208which word are you taking to mean aryan, and what does that mean to you?
>>18422208>HellenesKind of irrelevant. “Hellenic” was a general term for the Greeks of the ancient world, but the Mycenaeans considered themselves Aryans as well check out the table they made>>18422164
>>18422213Of course it was used as far back as the Mycenaean period I’m just saying that treating the Mycenaeans the same way you would treat the Spartans or Athenians is a bit historically inaccurate.
>>18422194Achilles aristos
Something fishy is going on heresome of you are taking this personally and providing half answers
>>18422127Nothing in particular Just a thought I had why were the laryngeal preserved only in the PIIr anyway
>>18422216?? Why wouldn’t they be Greek? The Proto-Greeks arrived in Greece around 2200 BCE, and when they intermingled with the EEFGROID people, they gave rise to the Mycenaeans, who in turn were related to the Classical Greeks this distinction is arbitrary.
>>18420825Where did you find that? A screenshot is kind of lame.
>>18422230Southern France:https://edh.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/edh/inschrift/HD066329Bulgaria:https://edh.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/edh/inschrift/HD017528Portugal:https://edh.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/edh/inschrift/HD016324Algeria:https://edh.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/edh/inschrift/HD020484
>>18422235How do we know it derives from *h2éri̯os*? And don’t confuse me with the Indian guy above I’m actually curious isn’t it derived from the Greek arius (the heretic)?
OP here kek 100 replies
>>18422238Its me againI looked into these names in more detail and found something worth considering, so I’m returning to the thread despite it being off-topic isn't? Tards.Sr. Arius Goryphus was a primipilus (chief centurion) of the ‘Legio I Italica Antoniniana’ (Legio I Italica, nicknamed ‘Antoniniana’ in honour of the emperor), so these people with the name Arius held a relatively high social position, which is consistent with the general usage of the term ‘Arian’.
>>18422235You need supporting information and context clues because of the problems already mentioned
>>18422235Dead links for me
>>18422249Romans originally was an exonym by which Latins called other peoples of the Etruscan confederation and later was extended to indicate all the inhabitants of Rome.
>>18422079Since you're repeating some things I've said before, I'll give you an update on what I currently think about this word.>*/χéryos/ (noun) ~ */χeryós/ (adjective).This accent variation is possible in principle, but comparative evidence across IE branches is lacking. The reason I considered this is because Sanskrit attests to both accent positions. I am also thinking it is less necessary to appeal to this hypothetical accent variation these days.>Accentuation is inconsistent in Greek and Sanskrit,There isn't a Greek word which we can use to compare the accent. ἄριστος doesn't tell us about the accent of */h2eri̯os/.It has become a habit to cite the word as */h2eri̯ós/, but now I think the Armenian and Anatolian evidence calls for us to modify the reconstruction slightly. The reason is Armenian and Anatolian regularly preserve laryngeal reflexes word-initially, except before the o-grade.Consider thatPIE *o was more precisely /ɔ/.PIE *e was more precisely /ɛ/.(This is an opinion sometimes seen in the literature)Laryngeal coloring of vowels works something like this:*/h2ɛ́/ -> *[h2á]*/h2ɛ/ -> *[h2a]*/h2ɔ́/ -> *[h2ɔ́]*/h2ɔ/ -> *[h2a]So there is actually another source of [a], therefore referring to *[h2ar-] is always correct, but */h2ɛr-/ vs */h2ɔr-/ is debatable.The benefit of using */h2ɔr-/ is it accounts for the missing laryngeal reflex in Armenian and Anatolian, and it allows us to see a derivational relationship in the Hittite term and common IE term. E.g.,*/h2ɔr-ɔ́s/ (nom) ~ */h2ɔr-ɔ́i̯/ (locative)Then */-ɔ́s/ is added to the locative.*⫽h2ɔr-ɔ́i̯-ɔ́s⫽ -> (pretonic syncope) */h2ɔr-i̯-ós/ -> *[h2ar-i̯-ɔ́s]
>what I currently think about this word.>i>iShut up
>>18422262I knew this thread was rubbish –>you told me so>and it was revealed to me in a dreamTHE WORD IS STILL IRANIAN. In fact, this Roman name isn’t related to a bloody thing
>>18422267You lost btw. See >>18421940
>>18422278not well supported by most scholars of PIE Its your own opinions show to us any source
>>18422258>h2ar is always correctIt is not found anywhere in the literature
>>18422286It was revealed to me whilst I was having a shit I strained so hard that I fell asleep right there on the bathroom floor, and in this dream Indra revealed it to me and said that the rebirth was his doing
>>18422281You were literally given a source in the screenshot of the paper.>>18422286Are you saying laryngeal coloring is not found in the literature or the PIE aryan word? Both are found in the literature.This screenshot is taken fromMatasović, R. (2009). Etymological dictionary of Proto-Celtic. Leiden: Brill.
>>18422296Here is the entry ⟨arios⟩ inDelamarre, X., & Lambert, P. Y. (2003). Dictionnaire de la langue gauloise: une approche linguistique du vieux-celtique continental.
>>18422296>there is actually another source of [a], therefore referring to *[h2ar-] is always correct, but */h2ɛr-/ vs */h2ɔr-/ is debatable.Where?
>>18422300>>18422296I’m surprised there isn’t a single book that covers all of this in full
>>18422304Your question isn't clear.
>>18422306>h2arWhere can we found it?
>>18422300Hey there, mate. I also post about Indo-Europeans on Reddit, and I wrote a whole thread about the Sea Peoples and their possible links to the Indo-Europeans. In one section I touched on linguistics, but I’m not an expert in that – are you a professional in this field? Could you have a look at it? I can’t post links, but the thread is called ‘The Indo-European sailors of the Bronze Age’ on Reddit. I’m planning to turn it into an article online at some point.
>>18422308Out of habit most dictionaries will cite *h2er- as the root with the assumption that the reader will automatically infer laryngeal coloring (*/h2er-/ -> *[h2ar-]) but I sometimes see *h2a in papers because they aren't interested in the phonological layer, only the phonetic. (A phonological word goes in // and a phonetic word goes in []).Laryngeal theory is taught in every introduction to PIE these days. If it's not clear what I'm talking about, you might consider reading this article.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laryngeal_theory
>>18422314Hi, I’m not really interested.You’ll have to sort it out yourself.
>>18422314I am not a professional.Is it the thread that's 6 years old?
>>18422321No problem.
>>18422321It’s really funny to play pranks on other people, you little worm
>>18422326That poster isn't me. They play funny games on this website since we're all anonymous.
>>18422324Yes. I wrote that when I was in my final year of secondary school I came across it by chance and found the sources provided very useful, but I never spent much time on linguistic issues beyond the basics. When I update the thread, I intend to make it as academic as possible and with fewer errors I’ve noticed that you lot discuss etymology quite a lot here.
>>18422314Your section on linguistics was brief. Here is my advice:Use either• the Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series • Lexikon der indogermanischen Verbeninstead of relying on The Oxford Introduction to Proto-Indo-European and the Proto-Indo-European World by itself. Update the spellings of the reconstructed words according to current conventions, and pay attention to the distribution of the words you are dealing with. That is, take note of which IE branches attest to the words in a way that is conscious of major IE divisions like the Corded Ware and Yamnaya.
>>18422349>Lexikon der indogermanischen VerbenThis may be more appropriate:• Nomina im Indogermanischen LexikonBut all three sources are potentially helpful.
>>18422314I’m not that anon but I thought that was really cool, boy. How old were you back then? You write really well would you mind if someone started a thread about it here?
>>18422355>How old were you back then?18>You write really well would you mind if someone started a thread about it here?No. You’re free to make corrections and add to it >>18422350>>18422349Thanks for the advice! I’ll check the most recent etymologies, but generally speaking, it’s not wrong, is it? The names of the Sea Peoples are a bit nebulous anyway
>>18422349>>18422314Sameflag, you’re even weirder than I first thought – first you go on about the Romans being Aryans, and now you’re promoting your thread on Reddit with ‘we wuz sea peoplez n sheitz’
>>18422039https://www.academia.edu/66576512/Franciso_Beltrán_Lloris_Carlos_Jordán_Cólera_Borja_Díaz_Ariño_e_Ignacio_Simón_Cornago_El_bronce_de_Novallas_Zaragoza_y_la_epigrafía_celtibérica_en_alfabeto_latino_Zaragoza_Boletín_del_Museo_de_Zaragoza_2020>2.1. Inscripción rupestre de Villastar I, Teruel (fig. 1) >Esgrafiado sobre la pared rupestre de Peñalba, Villastar (Teruel). Letras capi- tales realizadas por incisión, medidas: 0,6-2,5 cm. Interpunción circular. Extraído por J. Cabré a comienzos del s. XX. Se conserva en el Museo Arqueológico de Barcelona. El panel mide: 53 x 31 cm. Autopsia: F. Beltrán y C. Jordán 2005>ENIOROŚ+I >VTA · TIGINO · T+ATVNEI >TRECAIAŚ · TỌ · +VGVEI >ARAIANOM · CỌMEIMV>ENIOROŚEI · EQVEISVIQVE >OGRIS · OLOCAS · TOGIAS · SISTAT · LVGVEI · TIATO >TO[.]TAShttps://www.academia.edu/28706760/La_montaña_escrita_de_Peñalba_Por_Juan_Cabréhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Peñalba_de_Villastar
>>18422363http://hesperia.ucm.es/consulta_hesperia/Ilustraciones.php?file=file_88.php&filtrar=&valor=&id=2104
>>1842237123% steppe kek
The word 'aire' (freeman, noble) comes from *Aryos. I do not know if there is any etymological link with the Sanskrit 'dasa', but 'aire déso' has a very Indic flavour to its sound and meaning.Fergus Kelly, A Guide to Early Irish Law (Dublin, 1988) xxiii.
>>18422357>it’s not wrong, is it?What exactly do you want me to judge? All I see is that you quoted Mallory and Adams. Are you concerned they have made errors?
>>18422361Different people, schizo.Not my thread either. I haven't personally made a thread in a long time.
>>18422371Neat! An actual picture of the inscription.
>>18422039>I can identify where lvgvs is mentioned, but nothing about aryans.Well, the picture of the paper in the post you responded to says ⟨araianom⟩ and now you seem to have found the actual inscription. Do you see it now?The Celtiberian phonological rule is to add an epenthetic vowel between a liquid (/l/ or /r/) and a consonant, the same vowel that precedes the liquid is copied.*/ari̯ā-/ > ⟨araia-⟩ /arai̯ā-/⟨-nom⟩ is the genitive plural ending.
>>18422418Go fuck yourself
>>18422410Dasa is a pre-IE word
>>18420825This is not related to Aria
>>18422420You could just check-out the image's references, you dumbass
>>18422475Not meant to this retard, but to this another tard here>>18422422
>>18422394Talking about Tartessians
>>18422485it can only be found on the Galician wikipedia page for Neiros, an old Celtic tribe in Galicia.
>>18422305There's a book called >the myth of aryan race
>>18422485>aryan celtsWow wow
