I don't know why people say that China isn't really communist. Marxism says that a country has to heavily industrialize and go through stages of capitalism and socialism before it can become communist.
>>18421521Wtf is communism? An outdated ideology. Today we call it automatisation or social democracy or fascism and some shit. Stock markets are communism.
>>18421521>I don't know why people say that China isn't really communistBecause then amerimutts would have to admit communism works. So they claim China is ackshoally capitalist whenever they see some growth. When China's growth stops, that's when they start calling it communist again.
>>18421560We should call it chinksect heap. Doesnt matter if communist or republican.
>>18421521Looks like communism just became another version of managing capitalism. Which is fine on its own, but also makes it look like doing anything else is redundant or unnecessary.
The world is converging on the Chinese model. The Chinese took authoritarianism and added capitalism, the West is taking capitalism and adding authoritarianism.We will all end up under authoritarian state capitalism it seems.
>>18421521North Korea is a true planned economy and it's doing better than a lot of the countries in the world, truthfully. Huge fan of planned economies, they're so interesting. It's such a shame that the CPSU got so corrupt and killed itself for oligarch's benefit
>>18421521Deng reformation privatized China and made it into pseudo-capitalistic country in all but name. Almost all economy is private sector now. Today, if you look at countries and spending of GDP by sector, you'll find that China's gov GDP spending is very low. Europe is much higher than China. US is higher than China. Stagnation and bloat in the west is driven by communist like tendencies.
>>18422419>Almost all economy is private sector nowif you don't know anything about the chinese economy, why reply?
>>18422421What they said may be true, but it is also true many of these "private companies" are basically arms of the Chinese Communist Party. So government (controlled) spending might be hard to pin down.
In the Chinese system, the government actively wrangles the private sector to achieve national objectives. It's not a free wheeling capitalist economy.
>>18421521If the communist party takes over as a kind of steward of capitalism all they will accomplish is subjecting themselves to capital's interests. They have no incentive to abandon capitalism, because it has become the base of their power.
>>18422509Then why does the Chinese government regularly execute billionaires?
>>18422517Why do bourgeois governments jail individual bourgeois?
>>18422517The capitalist state serves to reproduce capitalist social relations and capital accumulation as a whole, not necessarily protect every individual capitalist. Some of them can even be sacrificed if they threaten the stability of the system by engaging in corruption or fraud or whatever. Now the specific political form of Chinese capitalism might be different from clasically liberal laissez-faire capitalism with a minimal state, but that's just one variant, it's not the essence of capitalism. There's actually a book by Marx all about this called the Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte.
modern china has more in common with fascist italy, it is state capitalist
