This study revealed some interesting things, such as a migration from the Iberian Peninsula to Neolithic France that culminated in a population overlap where these Iberian farmers practically massacred the French farmers. However, the reasons for this migration were not explored. But the most interesting thing is the fact of demographic decline and replacement at the end of the Neolithic. Of course, things become difficult to conclude when the authors don't argue whether this replacement was accompanied by conflict, but it seems suspicious to me that practically entire ENF pops were drastically replaced by free will.Finally, the study assumes (somewhat simplistically) that the decline of the Neolithic was, in fact, related to the emergence of the ancestors of the steppes, although, again, this is not explored or directly addressed. It's a shame. Even if they try to reduce the issue to pathogens and "environmental factors," it is undeniable that the Indo-Europeans contributed to it
>>18421926Cool supplementary material They modeled the French bell beakers as being steppe+ Iberian Neolithic.
>>18421926>population overlap where these Iberian farmers practically massacred the French farmersWhere does it say that?French ENF came from the south.You seem retarded and biased.
>>18421934Read the study, monkey
>>18421932>>18421926The Iberians have been masters of Europe since the Neolithic period it's incredible, it must be divine influence this is a continuation of the Age of Exploration.
>>18421937Iberian men got raped to extinction and now have the highest R1b with the lowest steppe ancestry.
>>18421941Cope we basically btfo Neolithic Frenchgroids and even bell cucks in bronze age and then we BTFO the entire america KEK cry
>>18421946bvlls
>>18421934>By 2900 BC, populations across southern France and Iberia all constituted a large fraction of Iberian ancestry, while people in the Paris Basin still comprised mixed ancestry proportion, as represented by the Phase 1 individuals. At some point after 2900 BC, a final northwards push of the Iberian ancestry partially replaces the existing local ancestry in the Paris Basin, resulting in the homogenous population we observe in Phase 2. After the end of Phase 2, around 2500 BC, people with steppe ancestry first appear in the Paris Basin27, where they mix with the local population to form the genetic profile typically associated with Bell Beakers (Fig. 3). As such, these results readily explain the difference between the populations of Phases 1 and 2, and could suggest an event that facilitated the northwards expansion of Neolithic Iberian ancestry at around 2900 BC.I'll take the bait, but the illiterate here didn't understand that the ENF populations didn't show continuity between phases 1 and 2 and were fundamentally different from the Iberian Neolithic and southern French populations... the Paris Basin is not southern France There was genetic overlap, but it's true that there was a lot of female exogamy
>>18421946Bell Beakers raped all Iberians. You were originally Basques. Then you were forced to speak Indo-European languages. Only the Basques kept their language and remained pure. You later got raped by Nafris who brought you E1b1b, like how the Bell Beakers raped you into R1b.
>>18421932Disappointed that they practically ignore any hypothesis of steppe arrival in France if these distal models have good P values, this would prove that the French Indo-Europeans were quite homogenous and the increase in EEF ancestry only occurred in the Bronze Age due to the Celtroons, basically. And are these samples new?
>>18421968No. These samples are old and have already been published, and these models are completely wrong the bell beakers from France only had 40% steppe.
>>18421956>partially replaces the existing local ancestry in the Paris BasinMore admixture that already was there.>people with steppe ancestry first appear in the Paris Basin27, where they mix with the local population to form the genetic profile typically associated with Bell BeakersSo the Paris Bell Beakers came and killed all Iberian men?Total French victory over moorberians.
>>18421960>Bell Beakers raped all Iberians.Not happened, even OP's article disapproved it.>You were originally Basques.Genetic continuity since late bronze age>Then you were forced to speak Indo-European languages.LMAO friend, the entire southeast of the Iberian Peninsula isn't Indo-European haha "Celtiberian" is just Iberians who made Indo-European girls their toys>Only the Basques kept their language and remained pure.Another Indo-European defeat yep>You later got raped by Nafris who brought you E1b1b, like how the Bell Beakers raped you into R1b.Less than 5%, putita
>>18421980>Less than 5%humiliation ritual
>>18421973>>18421970? You guys are so retarded and have such low comprehension of interpretation that it makes me wonder why you even entered this thread in the first place.
>>18421980>Not happened, even OP's article disapproved it.See >>18421973 the Paris Bell Beakers raped you.>Genetic continuity since late bronze ageOnly for Basques. You nafriberians literally E1b1b and E1b1a sub-Saharan paternal haplogroups from Arab letting their Berber and Nigerian slaves rape you too.>the entire southeast of the Iberian Peninsula isn't Indo-EuropeanWhy are they R1b and speaking Latin?>Another Indo-European defeat yepYour nafri people with R1b literally discriminate against us them and occupy their land.>Less than 5%,E1b1b is 20% and R1b is 70%. You are completely raped.
>>18421973>>18421980>>18421987Why has this turned into a thread of nationalist fighting? How many of you are actually different users and not just schizophrenics talking to themselves like idiots? Go back, youbrain-damaged
>>18421926>practically entire ENF pops were drastically replacedThere are quite a few EEF specimens all over Europe that appear to be essentially genetic deadends (despite their clear Anatolian and EHG ancestry they seem not to closely match any extinct or living population, not even the Sardinians)It appears that sort of replacement must have happened quite often
>>18421997If you're the OP you either knew exactly how this thread was going to turn out or you're incredibly new.
>>18422013You lost
>>18422013Retard.None of the EEF specimens had EHG ancestry except the ones in Ukraine which didn't come from EHG but from UNHG.
>>18422068>>18422013Both are pretty retared
>>18421941Modern Spaniards are more related to bell beakers than to neolithic iberians you dumb ape.
>>18422495Modern French are more related to bell beakers, retard.Modern Nafri descended Spajeets are more related to neolithic iberians than to bell beakers.
Spajeets seem to have forgotten they are brown and look Indian.French are actual white people.
>not posting plotting the PCA distribution plots comparing these samples to other populations spatially, or even mentioning haplogroupsthis thread is so weakanyways WE
cool so it's literally nothingthese people are effectively identical you don't hate /his/ medshills enougheven their Y haplogroups are just variants of I2a
>>18421926>French clitties got genocided keeeeeek
>>18422717Not in the Paris basin, you illiterate.
>>18422704Yes, even in PCA they're not identical, you retard.
>>18422573Used the wrong samples award
>>18421997First time in the haploautism thread?
>>18422068>None of the EEF specimens had EHG ancestryI meant "European Hunter Gatherer" here, WHG if you prefer>>18421932
>>18423079Spajeet cope award
>>18423360English bell beaker has no relation to iberiaTry czech bell bealer
>>18423832English Bell Beaker has far more relation to Iberia than Czechs, retarded spajeet. English Bell Beaker came from France.French Bell Beakers raped all Spanish women. Then Arabs raped Spanish women and also allowed their Nafri and Bantu slaves to rape Spanish women. Now all of you are R1b or E1b.
>>18421995Hey retard? Ready to be humiliated? 1) Most paternal haplogroups have local roots. 2) There are signs of gene flow mediated by long-distance female lineages. 3)decoupling of cultural and genetic diffusion that linear migration models cannot explain without invoking drift or reproductive isolation. Culture moved; most people did not.
>>18424036Spanish bell beakers came from central europe, not france retarded ape
>>18424298Spajeet cope
