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We often hear about those peaceful nature-loving matriarchal indigenous tribes in the Americas, India, or Africa, or the truly feminist Islamic society that liberated women 1300 years earlier than the west, all before le evil yt man pillaged and raped everyone and imposed a destructive homophobic patriarchy everywhere. What about the other way around? Societies where women were treated far worse, and European intervention actually or would have elevated them. Were there any positives of living as a woman in pre-Suffrage Europe, especially compared to the rest of the world around the same tome? What specific parts of Europe was better for women? I heard Slavic and Gaelic societies were better than English or French.

I heard from records from the 18th-19th centuries that Chinese women were severely opressed with all the foot binding and whatnot, and it made European society look feminist in comparison.
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>>18421991
>We often hear about
No
We don't
You're talking out your ass here
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>>18422003
i was watching this radfem podcast channel, and she constantly brought up the matriarchal native americans

i hear elsewhere about how they influenced us laws and suffrage w/o given credit, and how many white women who were kidnapped by tribes chose to stay there because they treated them better than the yt man
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>>18421991
>forced into foot binding
This is the kind of shit retarded women come up with because they think it will make them look pretty. This is no different today, in a few centuries they will call our times cruel patriarchies because we "forced" women to smear toxic shit all over their faces, inject themselves with botox, and get tit enlargenings. Anyone who has ever talked with a woman knows how shallow and vein they are
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>>18421991
only western civilization is evil
all other civilizations good and pure
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>>18422003
yes libtards like this exist . you'd know if you went to college
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>>18422009
>>18422545
>retard speaks
>wow they must be the voice of the people
gonsider sewercide
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>>18421991
What were you meant to do if you were a footfag in feudal China? Oh well, I guess there were twinks
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>>18422020
That's cope, getting off to feet alone is 100% a male thing, I seriously doubt choosing foot mutilation for a status game is a "the foids are acting up again" moment
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>>18421991
Almost every society treated women worse. The west is the most feminist society by miles
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>>18422782
>Almost every society treated women worse
Yeah but that's just because they replaced sex with women with homosexual pederasty
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>>18422751
Why would you want girls to mutilate their feet if you have a foot fetish idiot, foot bound feet don't look good
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>>18421991
Well obviously, as your sarcasm denotes, but in fairness pre-feminism western society was on a turn against women's rights immediately before the rise of the women's movement. Women lost the right to own property in england and they had their voting rights in various North American colonies stripped from them.
>>18422020
Ngl it's a 50/50. The beauty standard was small feet, both men and women enforce this standard through their actions.
Personally though, I think it just started as a normal preference for small feet that turned into a sort of arms race. Which is the main reason these odd beauty standards get so intense.
Also it's "vain".
>>18422741
This only got going during the Ming Dynasty. Long after that.
>>18422751
The feet by themselves were not attractive, them being small was the attractive part. Because it denoted femininity.
>>18422797
A foot fetishist would likely be attracted to bound feet if those are all the female feet he was exposed to. But that's more of a posthoc thing.
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>>18422751
I talked to some girls who had a fetish for tickling cute feet (of both sexes)
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>>18422809
Beauty standards are very malleable. And I personally believe you could essentially convince people to switch them up at will with enough cajolling.
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>>18422809
If you were only exposed to grotesque feet you either wouldn't become a foot fetishist or you'd still just be attracted to the platonic ideal of what a foot "should" look like in your imagination.
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>>18422819
They are only grotesque because they are unfamiliar. If they were common place you wouldn't be batting an eye to them.
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>>18422557
anon i've had college professors spout stuff like this.
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>>18421991
The answer is always Middle Eastern societies. I'd rather be a woman in trad China or Japan than in the desert shitholes.
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>>18421991
Never existed
https://adolfstalin.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-the-patriarchy-in-history



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