>“You see it’s a good thing Roman women got raped so they’d no longer be proud of their chastity”>“It’s okay that people were tortured to reveal where their wealth was because only the greedy would need to be tortured to say where their riches are”>“Every pagan hero is in fact an awful person”Why do people take this retard seriously again?
>>18422151>>“You see it’s a good thing Roman women got raped so they’d no longer be proud of their chastity”P*gan women are lesser than shit.>>“It’s okay that people were tortured to reveal where their wealth was because only the greedy would need to be tortured to say where their riches are”Pagans are obessed with worldy riches, it is okay for them to suffer for it.>>“Every pagan hero is in fact an awful person”Objectively true.>Why do people take this retard seriously again?He destroyed the pagan intellectual elite so much so that they spent their remaining time seething and fighting a losing battle against Christian intellectuals.
>>18422151He didnt look like that, he didnt hold a burning apple and there wasnt a glowing orb inscribed with "veritas" floating in his room.
>>18422162>they spent their remaining time seething and fighting a losing battle against Christian intellectualsActually they raped them and destroyed their empire and cast them into dark ages kek
>>18422166>Still believes in the Dark Ages™>In 20 fucking 26.Embarrasing.
>>18422162Actually Augustine's arguments are complete shit. His polemic against Roman history is literally just one whataboutism and strawman after another and it pulls from a shockingly shallow number of sources. His arguments against paganism conveniently ignore Pax Deorum and it's strange that despite acknowledging the Aeneid as poetry, he seems to treat it as history given how frequently he cites it as evidence of the evils of paganism. But what's stranger is that he focuses just on the kingdom and republican history, completely ignoring what should have been very fertile ground of imperial history to back up his argument that pagan Rome was hardly the glorious past some anti-Christians valorized it as. He has nothing to say about Nero? Really, nothing at all? Nothing to say about the crisis period? Was it problematic for him, I wonder, to acknowledge this because it all happened after the appearance of Christ, and he could not explain in his system why the world had remained shit after the supposed savior arrived?Also ironically, the idea of the “City of God vs the City of Man” mirrors the Manichaean duelism he condemned.
>>18422169What do you call the period of endless random wars and no progress between the collapse of Rome and the enlightenment?
>>18422172>What do you call the period of endless random wars and no progress between the collapse of Rome and the enlightenment?Actually the endpoint would be the Renaissance not the Enlightenment, but your argument still stands regardless.
>>18422171>Actually Augustine's arguments are complete shit.Nigger just because you skimmed through his Wikipedia page or read some post on Reddit doesn't mean you're even remotely capable of understanding, let alone critiquing his work. The best minds of pagan Rome couldn't defeat him, and neither can you.
>>18422175>The best minds of pagan Rome couldn't defeat him, and neither can you.What does that even mean
>>18422172>>18422173>What do you call the period of endless random warsThere's always been random wars, retard.>and no progressHistory is not a linear march towards progress. That's retarded enlightenment thinking.Going by your logic the Dark Ages should be said to have begun with the Crisis of the Third Century.
>>18422183Yes, when Christianity destroyed the empire, and it receded when people started to question christretards… some coincidence
>>18422206>Yes, when Christianity destroyed the empireThe Crisis of the Third Century wasn't caused by Christians you retard. And it was the first Christian Emperor that put an end to it.
>>18422211The christretards chimping out and constantly rioting and burning Rome multiple times was indeed the christfags fault and that faggot cuck gave in and let the empire fall as a result.
>>18422211>The Crisis of the Third Century wasn't caused by Christians you retardIt was. The crisis of the third century was punishment from the gods for allowing the rise of Christianity. The vast majority of emperors during this time were tolerant of Christian and the few moments of prosperity happened under the few emperors who targeted Christians.Rome prospered under emperors who targeted Christians like Hadrian, Trajan, Marcus Aurelius, etc. But under emperors who were tolerant of if not Christians themselves like Theodosius, Philip the Arab, Commodus, etc, Rome stagnated and declined.>And it was the first Christian Emperor that put an end to it.Actually Rome had already been recovering from it before Constantine took charge.
>invents predestinationism>invents monergism>copes that it's totally okay for Christians to engage in war>downplays the importance of good worksMost overrated theologian ever
>>18422225>copes that it's totally okay for Christians to engage in warI always found this funny because earlier theologians like Origen outright claimed that if Rome converted to Christianity en mass, it would not need a military of any kind.
>>18422162>Pagans are obessed with worldy riches, it is okay for them to suffer for it.Ok then, you should have no problem with me kidnapping you and demanding that you give me all of your banking information under the threat of death. After all, only morally corrupt people would care about earthy riches according to your logic, right?
>>18422151Ngl I couldn't continue after I read the part where he tries to justify the sack of rome. (Which is direct contradiction of xontemporary Christian promises).>>18422162>He destroyed the pagan intellectual eliteHe didn't destroy shit they just went basically extinct shortly after. They were basically all gone by the mid 6th century. I've snooped around and some articles seem to suggest there may have been occulted survivals into the middle ages proper but I can't read them.It turns out "Unquestionably refuting" your enemies is very easy when the state will kill anyone who disagrees with "the truth".
>>18422162Truly only a kind and christ-like soul could write such loving words.
>>18422325God loves those who love Him and hates those who curse Him.
>>18422233> OrigenWasn’t she a tranny and universalist?
>>18422338Origen is also venerated by most Christians. His work Contra Celsum is treated by Christians as some kind of “perfect rebuttal to all criticisms of the church” even though most of the arguments it used in defense of Christianity like Origen’s views on the pre-existence of souls and the final restoration of all things (apokatastasis) were ironically later branded as heresy by the church.
>>18422333Then he is not omnibenevolent
>>18422182QED
>>18422162>>18422169>>18422175>>18422183>>18422211How’s the weather in Mexico City Sanchez?
>>18422175I read the full thing, I understand it fine enough>The best minds of pagan Rome couldn't defeat himYeah, that’s what happens when the state suppresses all anti-Christian writings. What’s next, are you going to tell me that Chinese communism is perfect because nobody in China proper has refuted it without getting disappeared?
>>18422151He was a schizophrenic animist
>>18422151I enjoy reading Augustine and Philo describe ancient trannies, they both come off as the kinds of dudes that jerk off before getting on their soap box and decrying what they just jerked it toAlso I cannot read Philo without hearing Ben Shapiros voiceThanks for coming to my Ted talk
