Why are North Slavs so superior?All of Slavic civilization was invented by North Slavs while South Slavs spent the last 1000 years kowtowing to Germshits and Turks
West Slavs were cucks and never did anything in their entire history except get raped by Germans, Turks, and East Slavs.
>>18422462>SuperiorBecause they're not. South Slavs are even physically superior to other Slavs.> Slavic civilization was inventedBy the South Slavs, specifically, Great Moravia (according to your own definition of South Slavs) and the First Bulgarian Empire. East Slavs adopted Christianity (only Vladimir himself was converted to Christianity by the Romans) and their medieval model of civilization from the Bulgarians. Everything that's Slavic, from the literary languages, autocephalous churches, medieval empires (two Bulgarian ones and one Serbian), and identities of prestige, is a South Slavic thing.>1000 years kowtowing to GermshitsThat's Slovenes.>TurksOttomans weren't Turks, and the Ottoman Empire's occupation of the Balkans ended with their total defeat at the hands of 3 South Slavic countries and one Greek country, each being the size of a communal park in Constantinople, not to mention that the Serbs ensured the destruction of 3 European empires in WW1, and Yugoslavia was the third global power during the Cold War (alongside the Soviets and the Cowboys).
>>18423163>Yugoslavia was the third global power during the Cold WarHoly kek
>>18422462south slavs (with the exception of serbs) are traitors who sided with the germshits in ww2. north slavic countries need to form an alliance with one another against nazism
>>18423192Definition of a global power: A global power is a nation or state with the economic, military, and diplomatic strength to exert significant influence on international events and shape global systems across multiple regions. They maintain dominance through hard power (military/economic coercion) and soft power (cultural influence), often directing global affairs, trade, and security.Yugoslavia did all of this, and the White House (and Moscow) confirmed Yugoslavia's position as the third global power during the Cold War: Nine years later, Zbigniew Brzezinski, the chief advisor to President Jimmy Carter, said that Yugoslavia, together with the United States and the Soviet Union, was the only country that had affirmed itself as a global factor. Belgrade's position in the Non-Aligned Movement was constructive. In the light of the dying détente, parallel to an increase in the number of conflicts in the Third World, the behavior of Cuba and Vietnam, Yugoslavia really seemed like an “American communist ally”.>Holy Kek>Goes to History and Humanities>Isn't bothered by being historically illiterateIncredible, consider yourself educated on the matter.
>>18423261This has to be bait
>>18423261>Yugoslavia is more influential than China, France, and Japan>Because one of Jimmy Carter's advisors said so!
>>18423261>Yugoslavia really seemed like an “American communist ally”.If they were an American ally then they're hardly a third pole of power dumbfuck
>>18422462>spent the last 1000 years kowtowing to Germshits and Turkssame as poles and russians then
>>18423261Oh, ok, it must be true if Zbigniew Brzezinski says so
>>18422462Slovaks have to be among the top three comfiest people historically. Literary nothing happened there, its geographically just far enough of central Europe to not suffer constant Germanic and Celtic chimp outs but also not so far out as to get picked off by heathen savages either. Just be comfy, eat your halusky and fuck your 10/10 supermodel women while praising the lord.
>>18422462Russian isnt a race and neither is Slavic. Your retarded nationalism is retarded.
>>18422462there's no such thing as north slavs: there's east slavs and west slavs moreover russians are neither
>>18422462Czechs and Slovaks being south Slavs makes no sense.
>>18423335Slovakia actually came under assault many. It got devastated by the Mongols with the rest of Hungary. It was the only part of Hungary not to fall to the Ottomans and was on the frontlines of Ottoman invasions for a century, and was a hotbed of conflict between the Austrians and Hungarians in the Kuruc wars. Every able Slovak male was also conscripted to serve two years in the military by the 1700s.
awful bait
>>18422462I like how Czechs and Slovaks are considered South Slavic here even though they aren’t, which is funny because it would totally ruin this narrative that only North Slavs are successful if you consider those two to be South Slavs
>>18423163Japan was the 3rd Global power for most of the Cold War.
>>18423292Facts aren't bait.>>18423294>>18423303During the Cold War, categorically. >Advisors >Zbigniew BrzezinskiHe relayed Washington's official policies regarding the Cold War, and this man isn't just "some advisor", but one of the most important figures in the history of modern politics and statescraft.The source for the statement is the following: V, SSIP, Služba za istraživanje i dokumentaciju (Federal Secretariat for Foreign Affairs, Department for Research and Documentation), Str. pov. br. 843, 29 December 1979 Pregled obaveštajnih elemenata za procenu bezbednosnog položaja SFRJ (A Survey of the Intelligence Elements for the Security Status of the SFRY). These are cold geopolitical facts, and whatever shithole you're from just wasn't tall enough for this ride in the Cold War.>>18424250Japan was, and always will be, America's outpost without any concrete internal and foreign policies.>>18423301>Be butthurt that some commie Slavic shithole was a global power while his shithole was the USA's plaything>Doesn't greentext the part where Washington attests to Yugoslavia's status as the third global power during the Cold War>Greentexts the part which he fully misunderstood because he doesn't know anything of history of this periodTell me your lineage doesn't have a history of literacy before your parents, without actually telling me.
>>18422462>North Slavsno such thingczechs and poles are separate from russians* and ukrainians*true ethnic russians, not the siberian mongrels populating modern ex-rsfsr >while South Slavs spent the last 1000 years kowtowingbulgarians literally invented the cyrillic alphabet and are responsible for a lot more cultural/information transfer from the greek-byzantine civilization into the slavic worldyou are correct about the rest of balkan 'slavs' though(i'm using quotation marks because they're basically turks)
>>18424352>Basically Turks>The modeled ancestral genetic component of Balto-Slavs among South Slavs was between 55 and 70%.[57]>The 2014 IBD analysis comparison of Western Balkan and Middle Eastern populations also found negligible gene flow between the 16th and 19th centuries during the Islamization of the Balkans.[53]You're claiming that the physically largest (and several shades lighter than the lightest Turk) Europeans got Turkish admixture.>GreekAnachronism.>ByzantineEast Roman/Roman*.>You are correctSerbs had a medieval empire and were the preeminent identity of prestige in Southeastern Europe from the 1300s till the mid-1500s, and had overtaken the role of Bulgaria as the exporters of the Slavic civilization.>Cultural/information transferBulgaria and Serbia were creating civilization. What you're describing is the relation between the Frankish Empire and the HRE with the Papacy, since the Germanic cuck masses never had their own civilization, but were subsidiaries of the Latin one.
>>18424362>Serbsno such thingpost-ottoman turk remnants this side of the bosphorus
>>18424340Serbroach, no one sees Yugoslavia as anything other than a meme country propped up by the CIA that collapsed as soon as it wasn't needed
>>18423261>>18424340>Serbs really believe they're more important than ChinaIs there a worse case of protagonist syndrome?
>>18424340is this nigga really claiming that yugoslavia was a global power holy kek are serboids really this delusional
>>18422462>Slavic civilizationAnd what's that? Pretending to be Sarmatian and using Jews to extort peasants? Larping as Byzantine and paying tribute to the mongols?> kowtowing to Germshits and TurksThis applies, one way or another, to anyone west of Vienna, excluding the swedes. And also to the Czechs.
how come the gray area inbetween isn't either?
>>18423163first im hearing that yugoslavia was the third global power, tell me more
>>18425272Arguing for the existence of "Eastern European" civilization at least makes some sense sense. Slavic doesn't.>>18425275Neither Austrians, Hungarians, or Romanians are Slavic.Even if the latter two resemble them.
>>18424340I just did my research on some of these claims and I'm compelled to say this anon knows more about the situation than anyone arguing against him even if hes slightly overstating Yugoslavia's significance, that said why did Yugoslavia split into so many different countries? were they never really united in the first place
since this thread has me thinking about Yugoslavia (one of my favorite former historic places) I always wondered how come all of these ethnic groups were considered different? Does their genetic identity go back far enough to make them notably different or did they just claim difference because one lived a state away like if Oregonians claimed genetic difference to Washingtonians (but in the past before it was all jumbled)
>>18425286Forty years isn't enough to heal the WW2 wounds. But also the constituent republics tried to leave and the central government (based in Serbia and largely made up of serbs) didn't let them.>>18425301For speakers of Serbo-croatian its about cultural/historical/religious differences. And for the record, genetics is a very recent discovery. Ethnic ties aren't actually decided through genetics.
>>18424680>>18424684>>18424685Westerners are such pathetic faggots. Whenever someone refutes their laughable pseudohistory propaganda, they respond with insults and poisoning the well in an echo-chamber-like manner because they cannot refute the information that threatens them. Spiritually Jews. Shabbos-Goy attack dogs.>Even Chinamen (see the image) admitted that Yugoslavia exerted great influence in China (compared to China exerting great influence in the West in the last several decades).>>18425280>Slavic doesn'tSlavic civilization was the third preeminent European Medieval civilization, alongside (Western) Latin and (Eastern) Greek. Any historian will tell you the same.> latter two resemble themBecause both the Hungarians and the Romanians had a Slavic civilization mainstream (more exaggerated among the latter than the former).
>>18424685Serbians are weirdly conspiratorial, they seem "axis of resistance"pilled, I think by 2030 they will claim to be Chinko-Iranian exclave in Europe
>>18425301>>18425310Read Maria Todorova's "Imagining the Balkans" and Josip Glaurdic's "Hour of Europe", where both provide systematic rebuttals to the abovementioned premise of "Balkanization" and "Balkan tribalism" (and other made-up Western bullshit). Strobe Talbott outright admitted that Yugoslavia was destroyed because it refused to surrender its geopolitical, economic, demographic, military, media, and ideological sovereignty to the USA-led Unipolar West, that simple.
>>18425286Serbia was a victor in ww1, and it was given land from the dismemberment of austria-hungary. They renamed the country to yugoslavia, since it now included at least 2 non serb ethnicies. It was called kingdom of serbs,croats and slovenes until 1929, and later renamed to yugoslvia. So, just like austria hungary was a multiethnic project, yugoslavia was also a multiethnic project.>>18425301they are considered different mainly because of language and religion. borders of countries and past countries determine languages and how they developed. for example the border of slovenia used to be the border of the austria and then austrian lands in the dual monarchy. it stayed the same for a millenium. some linguists i heard from, consider this the major factor that why slovenian and croat drifted and developed in separate ways from their common proto language.
>>18425528>Any historian will tell you the same.Can you cite one? I don't know any historians to confirm or deny.Regardless, is it really fair to call it 'Slavic' civilization when it has significant Greek&Steppe influences and includes people who weren't slavic (Hungarians, Romanians, debatably Albanians)?