How does evolution work? If we came from Africa, does that mean Africans and proto-Sumerian cradle of civilization type semites are the least evolved or do they continue to evolve in those places? Also does this make finns or ameridians the most evolved races because they are the furthest from Africa which causes each subsequent generation to inherit new evolutionary traits to cope with the difference in environments?
>>18423191>we came from AfricaWhiteness/lightness is what defines humanity and in its absence there can be no civilization. That godly quality did not come from the hells of Africa.
all organisms have been evolving for the same amount of time. there is so such thing as less evolved.
>>18423285>humans evolved from monkeys>groups of monkeys still exist and didn’t evolveAre you stupid?
Early humans ~200k years ago had a diverse set of genes, as they spread through Africa the frequency of these genes changed depending on their environment. For example Kenyans have long limbs helping them run marathons while Bantu have fast twitch muscle fibers which gave them a slight advantage in their particular environment, they were more likely to survive, reproduce and their children reach adulthood, they have 3 kids while someone else only has 1, thus their genes become more frequent in the general population. Some genes of course are new mutations, but it is worth noting while some mutations can be revolutionary, they tend to be random and take time to spread through a population. You could probably take mouth swabs from a tribe 200k years ago and pick and mix various genes to create a white man.Around ~70k years ago a small group left Africa, not the first to do so, but by far the most successful with their descendants spreading out all over the world to as far as South America. Thus there was a genetic bottleneck and in turn their descendants evolved in vastly different environments with very different gene frequencies and a few new mutations.Agriculture began to spread all over the world beginning around ~12kya after the ice age ended and the climate stabilized, warmer and wetter. there were 3 main regions in the old world suited to agriculture, europe and the mediterranean, india and China, the middle east of course had its flood plains the nile, euphrates and tigris, but these were less relevant after the bronze age. Of these China and Europe were populated by high IQ races and indian by south asians, we can see today east asians have developed economies, europe also and white settler colonies, while india is an impoverished hive despite possessing lush farmlandevolution and genetics do have a significant effect on the fates of nations
>>18423305humans evolved from monkey-like organisms, some of which further evolved into other monkey-like organisms because it just so happened they could keep living comfortably being monkeys. evolution isn't a race towards some set goal, it's just whatever helps an organism survive and get its genes passed on.
>>18423305modern monkeys are just as evolved as modern humans
>>18423314So to my point: if African people evolved to survive in Africa, then those who stayed behind are less evolved than those who travelled and got more evolution to help them deal with exotic climates and diets and predators. >>18423316Uh no?
>>18423324I'm sorry anon but you're retarded. You were not meant to understand this stuff, you are meant to push carts at the grocery store.
>>18423345If you can’t explain your argument that’s because you either just realized how stupid it is and you’re embarrassed, or you’re inarticulate and don’t really understand the subject you claim to be an expert on.
>>18423324there is no such thing as less evolved. they keep evolving.
>>18423352Yep you're so right anon. Evolution b dum n god made us n sheit. Now go push the carts.
>>184231911. Least evolved doesn't exist. Most evolved doesn't exist either.2. The main driver of evolution is natural selection. People will babble garbage about mutations and other crap but then forget every mammal has the same amount of verterbrae - "creating" new things happen rarely, successively reshaping them is much more common.3. Niggers are what they are because their patterns of natural selection rewarded being a nigger. Likewise the patterns of natural selection in 18th century England rewarded being an 18th and 19th century Englishmen with all the genius and prestige associated with these.
>>18423191>does that mean they are less evolvedthinking evolution is like a tech tree is retarded, especially when taking into account the very small time span for humans, sure human populations in specific areas have unique traits due to living in said area, but that does not mean they are "more evolved"
>>18423191Evolution doesn't work and can't explain the development of complex systems that would not increase the chances of survival of an organism until they were fully formed eons later
>How does evolution work?It doesn’t, read the bible
>>18423410>>18423413Let’s say I have a group of black people. One day, randomly one gets a mutation that turns their skin white.Over the next 10000 years, the population diverges between black people that stay the same, and white people.Which is more evolved? The white people. Evolution is the delta between generations. No delta, no evolution.
>>18423431If white skin provided no survival advantage it would not have emerged and remained. So either out of Africa is false or evolution is false. Or, most likely, both are wrong
>>18423285>he thinks humans have been evolving as long as dinosaursLmao
>>18423436>it would not have emerged and remained.as long as those with the mutation continued to procreate it would.
>>18423436or it could be the case having white skin in certain areas is such a non issue that it did not impede the survival of said humans hence why it can spread, a trait does not have to be giga critical for it be passed down, all it needs is to not impede reproductive success, also again its not like people in Africa did not stop evolving as the other guy stated
>>18423444>its not like people in Africa did not stop evolving as the other guy statedName the evolutions that happened in Africa since people started migrating away from there. The migratory peoples hair, skin, stomach, glands etc all changed. What changed for the Africans? Nothing? You retard.
>>18423443Well for one imagine a situation where only one person mutates white skin in a tribe or whatever, who are they going to reproduce with when everyone else is black? But also, it just seems unlikely that at that initial point where whites numbered in the literal tens or hundreds, they would have exclusively procreated with each other. For example, India, you can see today one nonwhite parent fucks shit upBut what order are you saying this happened in? Did they migrate from Africa and then develop white skin? or did the white group develop and then migrate?
>>18423439Yes, dumb dumb retard nigger dumb fuck.
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>>18423191>Also does this make finns or ameridians the most evolved races because they are the furthest from Africa which causes each subsequent generation to inherit new evolutionary traits to cope with the difference in environments?On paper yes, which is why traditional race realist models don't actually make any sense.Humans only left Africa around 50,000 years ago, which probably isn't even long enough for significant evolutionary divergence to occur anyways, in addition, humans didn't leave Africa in one single wave, it was multiple waves, with some groups migrating back, humans are extremely transient, so you really can't draw the same conclusions based on broad migration patters over tens of thousands of years as you would for species that migrated and lived in isolation for hundreds of thousand to millions of years.
>>18423461It’s not as though once moving to china and developing Chinese characteristics, the population then evolved African characteristics again
>>18423464True, but I think at the very least their skin would naturally get darker again within a few hundred years, since a lot of racial characteristics are just adaptations to the environment. Gene expression and evolution are related but they're still somewhat different
>>18423459And where did humans evolve from, dumb dumb nigger dumb fuck? Come on, work with me now, use that brain of yours if it exists.
>>18423451>who are they going to reproduce with when everyone else is black?i forget how the dominant/recessive gene chart would work here but there's always a chance it would get passed onto the offspring even if the other parent is black>it just seems unlikely that at that initial point where whites numbered in the literal tens or hundreds, they would have exclusively procreated with each other.it wasn't something that happened overnight. the whitening of skin took thousands of years as they slowly adapted to their new environments further from the equator>Did they migrate from Africa and then develop white skin?most likely. i'm not an expert on this topic though.
>>18423486>>Did they migrate from Africa and then develop white skin?>most likely. WE
>>18423285Imagine being the lil Habilis nigga trying to communicate this to the 6'6 Erectus who just bashed his whole family's head in with a crudely shapened hand axe and stole all their berries and nuts and etc. Another brutal MOG for the MOGlore. Many such cases.
>>18423486>the whitening of skin took thousands of years as they slowly adapted to their new environments further from the equatorI don't think it was this longTake Southern Europe vs Northern Europe for example. They weren't isolated from eachother for thousands of years but you very clearly see skin adaptations for their different respective climates. You see a similar phenomenon albeit to a lesser extent with Southern Brits vs Northern Brits and so on. Superficial adaptations to the environment is the result of gene expression, not necessarily the same as evolution or anything like that
>>18423529This means we can import infinity Africans into America and Europe and they will eventually turn white
>>18423538I mean, Africans imported to northern climates already do have slightly lighter skin than their Southern counterparts and the slave trade was only a couple hundred years ago
>>18423547I’m sure that has nothing to do with mating with the white natives
>>18423547Anon I don't think it was the climate
>>18423547>>18423551
>>18423552>>18423551I don't think it has anything to do with them being mutts because they still look black they just have slightly lighter skin tones
>>18423556Every single African American alive today has a white male ancestor.
>>18423558I don't know what the statistics are but I know a couple of New England blacks who could trace their ancestry directly to modern-day Uganda, I don't know much about Southern Blacks but it wouldn't surprise me if they were more muttified
>>18423563https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4289685/It's pretty much every single one excluding some very small communities. The average black has 25% European DNA
>>18423569>We studied the genetic ancestry of 5,269 self-described African AmericansHardly a representative sample size but it's still interesting nonetheless
>>18423529>You see a similar phenomenon albeit to a lesser extent with Southern Brits vs Northern Brits and so onHigher steppe in the North, higher EEF in the south, just like Europe broadly. Regional variants like MC1R occurring in boggy regions like Britain and the Netherlands, while it's nearly absent in Scandiavia or, where entirely different MC1R variants show up in Spain are where the nuance comes in. >>18423547No, immigrating blacks and jeets to northern cities and depriving them of much needed sunlight is not the answer. This is why remigration is necessary and good, and inevitable. It's critical for human health and flourishing. It's in fact immoral to argue against, aside from being a complete waste of time. Just hope they can get back soon before rickets and etc.
>>18423280>Whiteness/lightness is what defines humanityLmao>in its absence there can be no civilization.So how come the US and most of Europe is backsliding?
>>18423569>>18423558Doesn't have as much of am impact as you think.
>>18423590Jews
>>18423590The US is less black today than it was when it was founded and Europe can't backslide further than they did in the aftermath of the second world war.
>>18423410>The main driver of evolution is natural selection.It's not a straightforward process or directly visible. Many things don't exactly work off a pure model of it.>Niggers are what they are because their patterns of natural selection rewarded being a nigger.Africans had the same selection pressures as other groups.>the patterns of natural selection in 18th century England rewarded being an 18th and 19th century Englishmen with all the genius and prestige associated with these.Not even close.
>>18423592Ok Tyrone your great great great grandma still got FUCKED
>>18423594>Europe can't backslide further than they did in the aftermath of the second world war.Oh sure they can, more so when you falling behind, failing to innovate and massive growth of competition.
>>18423598Talking about someone's grandparents like that is super crude.
>>18423601Right, and this has been Europe since the end of the second world war
>>18423602Bro just wants some of that nubian granny goddess ASS
>>18423602this one's getting uppity
>>18423191Humans were born in Siberia. Out of Africa hasn't been taken seriously by anthropology for the past decade.
>>18423476Yeah australian white people are so darkRetard
>>18423596>Africans had the same selection pressures as other grouNo.I'll give you an example of how different selection pressures can look like.The British were Christian. Since the 17th century, due to various historical developments, the British middle class became obsessed with particularly strict forms of Christianity, meaning that no methods of anticonception(exposure included) were good for them. This created a relatively high degree of fertility rate disbalance that made successful middle class people have more children surviving until adulthood, and while these children generally were downwardly mobile, they've brought the same inherent traits their parents had(a combination of high religiosity and intelligence, which normally doesn't come hand in hand, but those were the traits required to become successful as a middle class person in England at the time) to the social classes they've ended up settling in.This is a process that brought people like Thomas Carlyle or Charles Darwin into the world. This has, however changed over time. By mid 19th century advances in medicine led to a different type of Englishman becoming very advantaged, fertility-rate-wise while changing attitudes around religion in the middle class brought their advantages out. The type that had all the advantages was what we'd jokingly refer as Norf FC, and as the genrations passed on eventually the Englishman stopped being associated with the Isambards Brunels and started being associated with Tango the fat football hooligan. And what became a premium as far as natural selection goes was low inhibitions. It's not that the Tangos of the world loved children or were deeply moral to not use anticonception, it's that they felt like having sex right now and delaying it wasn't even on their mind.Africans worshipped different religions, had different doctrinal divides cutting across their social classes and finally these classes were different as well. Society and biology intertwine.
This thread shows that religious people are literally mentally retarded racists.
>>18424072>The British were ChristianNot exceptional at all anon. In reality Britain was actually pretty later on in the spread of the religion.>they've brought the same inherent traits their parents had(a combination of high religiosity and intelligence, which normally doesn't come hand in hand, but those were the traits required to become successful as a middle class person in England at the time) to the social classes they've ended up settling in.Asspull justso-ism. Also super weird to downplay thr many abuses and fuked up shit the British had to endure in those years into a positive.>Africans worshipped different religions, had different doctrinal divides cutting across their social classes and finally these classes were different as wellYou literally came up with a whole headband but literally only gave Africans a one sentence handwave. Holyshit you are a total midwit.
>>18424084If there’s no God, why is it wrong to be racist?
>>18423996Whites have only been living in Australia for about 245 years and they're already slightly more tan than their northern brethren so I don't really know what your argument here is
>>18424122>they're already slightly more tan than their northern brethrenStill have super high skin cancer rates. Mainly because they barely do the minimum to protect against sun exposure.
>>18424107>Also super weird to downplay thr many abuses and fuked up shit the British had to endure in those years into a positive.Yes the abuses and fucked up shit affected natural selection in a way that allowed Britain to rise where it did. The subsequent easening of conditions and changes in mortality brought Norf FC-fication of it. This was fairly unusual for Europe in general since most societies go through this cycle much faster, for whatever reason the anti-anticonception part of Christianity became super mainstream(Freud, a secular jew, couldn't think of any way of anti conception other than abstinence, despite the availability of condoms, that was how hard the societal pressure against it was) so the relative economic elites experienced fertility advantage for a longer period than elsewhere
>>18424118Fuck off retard.
>>18423191Sub-Saharian Africans descend from Khoisan who fucked Homo Erectus/Other primitive hominids and that's the reason why niggers are so dumb. They handicapped themselves. Eurasians are Khoisan mixed with Neanderthals/Denisovans. Pajeets are Australoids (the same race as Australian Abos), who are Denisovans mixed with Homo Erectus with a bit of Homo Sapiens/Khoisan blood. All the dumb races share something in common: They have Homo Erectus blood.
You didn't evolve either, ranjesh
>>18424118do unto others as you would want them to do unto you
>>18424145Oh, and the native Americans (especially the ones in the south subcontinent) have Australoid blood, with the native North Americans being the most Eurasian ones.
>>18424145Middle school dropout ass post.
>>18424138>Yes the abuses and fucked up shit affected natural selection in a way that allowed Britain to rise where it did.Not really. It just fucked up several generations of people and set up the gradual decline of the empire as entire bodies in the UK and abroad were baaicallg sacrificed to make profits for a very small elite. Which in the end amounted to little after two world wars and the collaboration of the political+economic class basically offshoring a ton of the potential wealth of the union while stripping the infrastructure and institutions of copper.
>>18424252You literally proved his point, you retarded nigger. I know kindergarteners who can speak better English than you.
>>18423598So did yours. All humans are descended from rapists, it's one of the actual unfortunate truths.>>18424145This is such a hilarious post. Did you know Homo sapiens only exists because 300,000 years ago, a species that diverged from our ancestors 1.5 million years ago contributed 20% of their ancestry to us? This means ALL HUMANS, including you and I, are descended from a species that had only just split from Homo erectus.
>>18423191Evolution isn't advancement; it's adaptation to environment.If some shit lives in a cave for thousands of years, it will eventually lose it's eyes because it doesn't need them in a cave, and developing eyes actually costs energy that is wasted in a cave environment.There is no "most evolved." Anything that isn't evolved (adapted to it's environment) is extinct or going extinct.
>>18424147Why?
>>18423590>how come the US and most of Europe is backsliding?Because their whiteness is decreasing, duh.
>>18424355What magic causes life to suddenly adapt instead of going extinct?
>>18424254That's 19th and 20th century and it's already the time when the puritan genetic background became disadvantsged vs. norf fc genetic background and that's also one of the consequences of elite miscalculation - eugenics was unpopular among both the low class rubes who voted convervative because rule Britannia and the liberals, let alone labour, so reversal of the trends could've never happened. Mind you both types existed in England but their frequency has changed, and now you're just dealing with Norf FCs with small elite of an old type and bunch of whoever from wherever sprinkled in.
>>18424361Sexual selection
>"race realists" think evolution is pokémon
>>18424355White people didn’t evolve and are going extinct?
>>18423285There are obviously more and less archaic organisms. Horseshoe crabs are less "evolved" than humans. That is what is meant.
>>18424361Evolution.Basically there are small genetic mutations in each generation. Genetic mutations that help adapt to the environment the life is in result in higher survival rates and thus more breeding, meaning advancement of the genetic mutation through successive generations.Think of it like this; if cleft lips proved beneficial to survival in a certain environment, then people with cleft lips would be more likely to survive and breed than people without, resulting in a population with all cleft lips, and further genetic mutations exacerbating the trait in whatever way was most beneficial to survival in that environment.
>>18424783Genetic mutations are not sufficient to account for the traits of living creatures because gradual minor mutations cannot account for the large difference between creatures found in nature, i.e. either the bird will have a full set of wings or it won’t have wings at all. Not to mention the vanishingly small odds of a relevant beneficial mutation appearing during a period of crisis, in which sense the existence of life at all is a kind of empirical evidence against evolutionism.
>>18423191>or do they continue to evolve in those placesYes but due to far fewer selection pressures they would just not have any major changes like humans in other regions did. No reason to develop skin more capable of absorbing vitamin D for example.
>>18423443There's a reason why they didn't in Africa. Lighter skin is a hindrance in that environment the same way black skin is one in northern climates.
