The Vikings were great at raiding and navigation, but every time they went up against an opponent that was even slightly prepared for them, they always lost.
>>18423291Anon, those Englishmen were also Vikangs, as were the Normans.
>>18423291>conquered Normandy>conquered Sicily >conquered the entire east>carried the Byzantines for 2-3 centuriesYeah totally just a bunch of jobbers who got their asses kicked every time they went up against organized resistance.
>>18423296>conquered NormandyThey received that swamp after being defeated in the 911 Siege of Chartres>conquered SicilyIt was Normans, not vikingsThe only land vikings actually conquered is England
>>18423291Athelstan was the goat Viking slayer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_BrunanburhAlso conquered Scotland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Æthelstan's_invasion_of_Scotland
>>18423291This isn't true at all. I'm not a Norseboo but you're robbing very capable historical militaries of hard-won victories over them. Franks are my favorite part of medieval history. They had the best heavy cavalry in all of Europe, maybe the world since slightly before Charlemagne. Events like the ethnogenesis of the Normans tend to drown out the many, very brutal and contested battles between them and the Norse. The sheer asymmetry is the most interesting part for me because the Norse essentially had no meaningful cavalry at all, no proper war horse tradition. They used older Indo-European methods, sending young poorfags in to kind of penetration test before reinforcing with older and more well-armed men, entire fleets of them occasionally. This has been referred to as the Koryos but I'm not quite sure if the maritime context for it existed outside of the Norse. The Franks were much more Romanized in military traditions, and would send scara. These were reconnaissance on fast horses, likely knights and mounted infantry with destriers in tow - they were not just scouts but experienced cavalry and men who were going to contribute heavily to any future battle plans. It was a more modern approach that illustrates why the Franks were so effective against groups like Avars and the Norse. Scara would be sent in, and rapid coordination with all surrounding barracks and troop organizations would be initiated. Honest to God, even secondary sources of the Battle of Brissarthe read like the Iliad to me in my headcanon. It can illustrate some trends typical of the Norse: 1) Often mercs 2) Understood their own asymmetries but we're nonetheless loyal to their oaths, even if that meant certain death or very small chance of success. 3) Very, very dangerous with some brilliant leadership 4) Usually not moving in and trying to take over a region, Britain is more of an outlier 5) Not in it for ego or medieval court propaganda. They raided for love of the game.
>>18424371And Russia, the Isles, Brittany for a few decades, etc.
>>18423291They deleted the picts from historyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_839Pretty successful in Ireland too. All their major cities were founded and ruled by vikings for a very long time.
>>18424371>>18424559Their holdings in ireland were pretty impressive too. Turning the irish into one of europes largest source of slaves
>>18423291>says the vikings always lost to opponents even slightly prepared for them>cites an example of the Vikings putting up a good fight where they were completely caught off guard and unprepared
>>18424567They almost had conquered Albania, Carthage, and Galatia.
>>18424567Chinese, Irish and Slavs be good import of serfdom for America plantation instead black....VGH!!
>>18423291>all these battles that they won? well you see, their opponents weren't ACKSHUALLY prepared for them so it doesn't countWhat a retarded cope that you can apply to literally any army ever.
>>18424564The Norse-Pictish wars seem so horrific and soulful at the same time. Reading Kipling probably made it more soulful than it was. A lot of men dying young for little bits of land, like all of history. There are almost no Scottish sources on the matter though, which makes it an anomaly. R1a in Britain tends to peak in Scotland and the Orkneys. I guess it was mostly Norwegians trying to raid them while Danes and Swedes focused on England, northern France and elsewhere where R1b and I1 already were from prior Nordwaves.
>>18423291>The Vikings were great at raiding>raiders were great at raiding>not at other things that aren't raiding. What a bunch of PIECES. OF. SHIT.
>>18423291The same could be said of the Mongols.
