why white russian emgire failed to established a sort of "government-in-exile" thing like the poland did during the cold war? and why collective west did not support them as alternative during the collapse of the sowiet in 1991?
>>18424583Because emigres were anything from Russian nationalists to monarchists to liberals to socialists who were a hair to the right of the Bolsheviks
>>18424772liberals and monarchists could've been easily united, and they made up the largest majority of the emigre. and the west has done nothing to support them either. i just don't understand why, when they treated the USSR as their key existential enemy.
>>18424791They should have made a mercenary army like the Irish in Spain in the XVIII Century.
>>18424801i just don't understand why there was zero (0) recognition of any of these movements at all. and they existed, lots of them, some went on for as late as 1980s.you'd think the collective west would support these organisations as a way to undermine the statehood and legitimacy of the USSR, but no, they didn't. at least, i couldn't find any examples of that in america or europe.
>>18424791>liberals and monarchists could've been easily unitedNo not really, the monarchists despised the liberals and the provisional government, blaming them for Lenin’s rise, and were autistic about reinstating the Tsar. The liberals likewise disliked the monarchists for destroying the Russian republics legitimacy. These factions very much disliked each other.
>>18424583Because they weren't really unified under a specific banner or ideology beyond hating the reds. There was a lot of infighting and lack of coordination.
>>18424884>>18424889and what was stopping the CIA from telling these factions "you better get your shit together and settle on a compromise like the UK did with a constitutional monarchy" and work off on that?besides, after ww2 from 1950s onwards there were no monarchists left. most of the white russian orgs that were still around were liberal and western-aligned
>>18424893>and what was stopping the CIA from telling these factions "you better get your shit together and settle on a compromise like the UK did with a constitutional monarchy" and work off on that?Because the CIA doesn’t won’t that way. They can’t magically resolve decades of grudges and infighting between people who haven’t lived in Russia for almost half a century and who’ve made entirely new lives elsewhere. These CIA is in the business of gathering intelligence first and foremost. >besides, after ww2 from 1950s onwards there were no monarchists left. most of the white russian orgs that were still around were liberal and western-alignedThere were and are monarchists who idolize the tsar among emigre populations. They aren’t the majority sure but they are very loud and obnoxious.
>>18424583your kind shouldn't be posting, let alone starting threads
>>18424583>why *doWould it kill you fucking shitskins to remember this basic grammar rule?
>>18424900>Because the CIA doesn’t won’t that wayit was a rhetorical example because i don't know who exactly would be responsible for that.>There werebullshit, after ww2 in the 1950s the amount of people who even saw the russian empire at least as a teen who weren't living within the USSR was already waining. and if there were conflicts among them i'd hardly imagine them being "very loud", considering that the west seemingly wasn't even aware that they had a white russian diaspora in their countries to begin with.
>>18424583It was called the ROVSAnyway Yeltsin was a lot more popular than a bunch of 90 year old Nazi collaborators
>>18424583unlike europeans russians never had a democratic traditionmonarchist russians never had a government, it was a run of the mill asiatic autocracy. there was a duma but it served no purpose as alland the leader of the short lived russian republic after being ousted publicly supported stalin
>>18424943>everybody who doesn't like the demonic bolshevik government is a nazi collaborator!why is communist filth like this?
>>18425926Your point would be valid if a majority of the Whites still involved in politics didn’t ally with the Nazis to kill other Russians
>>18426156it's funny you communists always parade the fact that the soviet union eradicated illiteracy, considerng you are illiterate yourself it seems. this very thread says that there were different white eimgre factions and organizations. only a few of those that were in germany allied with the hitlernazi, a lot of white emigres did not actually like hitlernazi
Before the war they were plentiful, after the war there was some deal made with Stalin and a bunch of them were deported to USSR.
