Where did the word "homeless" come from?When you see a vagabond on the train, a junkie on the side of the road, or a beggar with their cup out asking for coins, that person may very well not have a house, but they have a lot else going on. And after deciding on the term homeless to label this group of people, they decide the solution is housing first. Why not call them jobless and have work first programs?
>>18425394>Why not call them joblessSome homeless people have jobs.
the people I see talking to themselves while on drugs, clearly mentally unwell are not holding down jobs
>>18425394Because those are older terms more specific specific wo changing cultural contexts, while homeless is just a general description for anyone who doesn't have a fixed address for whatever reason. A vagabond is a rootless nomadic worker who took any available odd job and slept at inns. A hobo is more specific to the 19th century and it was a word for day laborers who hopped trains from place to place and slept in boxcars. A bum is just a lazy person who doesn't work.
>>18425394>Why not call them jobless and have work first programs?because a lot of them have jobs, they just can't afford housing?you're naive or delusional about what landlords have done to the US and the broader western world
>>18425394People who are voluntarily homeless but have a job are typically just called "Nomads", take digital nomads for examplePeople who are involuntarily homeless and don't have a job are called VagrantsPeople who have a home but don't have a job are just called NEETs or Hikikomori if you prefer the weeb terminology "Homelessness" is more of a broad umbrella terms for multiple things
>>18425429When you say a lot of them have jobs, what percentage are you talking about?10%? 50%? 70?% How do you know
>>18425394Vagabond = Wanderer that moves from place to place, and is a homeless due to their wandering activity. Homeless is generic because most of the people stay for long periods of time.We need a name to describe a homeless person that stays at one spot like a permanant resident
>>18425429The homeless rate (which includes people who don't have apartments) in the US is around 0.6%The unemployment rate in the US is 4.4%This means there are more NEETs in the US than homeless
>>18425437>We need a name to describe a homeless person that stays at one spot like a permanant residentWhat do you mean? Like a boarding house sort of situation? I've heard the term transient used to describe people who live in hotels for months at a time. Although those people usually have their rooms paid by some company they're sent across the country for.
>>18425446Look up Skidrow St in California. They just stay there until they die. On the streets, in sidewalks, in makeshift tents. Its permanent settlement. Thats been growing rapidly over the last decade or so due to government funding
>>18425462I've been to Skidrow street, it's actually not as extreme as a lot of photos on the internet make it seemalso, at best it's been "growing" because the Church moreso than the government, since a lot of local religious organizations do a lot of evangelical work on that street including these massive food and donation drives
>>18425472There are 200K homeless people in California today. In 2007, it was 40K. It grew rapidly. 500% increase. The NGOs there are funded by government each year they get ~$3-6 billion to grow the homeless population. This means career job for the NGOs making millions of thousands per year for the execs and comfortable career for the street workers. The church doesnt have the money to take care of 200K homeless people. Its the state funding them.
>>18425462Those are just bums and junkies. Terms that already exist.
>>18425472>photoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjiyVbv0-w
>>18425474Most of the homeless in California come from outside of the state. NGOs basically facilitate relocating vagrants from Red states who don't want them and have less programs and services to care for them and transplant them into California where they can get kickbacks
>>18425429>landlordsShort sighted retard. Landlords can't just arbitrarily jack up the rent just because they want to. There are shitloads of legal obstacles and set caps on how much they can raise it per year. The problem is that the government just prints money to fund whatever the fuck it wants and devalues the dollar almost overnight. Every expense and tax including property tax goes up which logically follows that your landlord has to raise the rent while value in your paycheck shrinks. Niggers like you are too dumb to understand this and think that landlords are some feudal class that arbitrarily dictate the economic value of land.
>>18425438yes, but those aren't always the same people. I was a NEET for a long time, but never homeless because of family support.
>>18425479I can see how housing has risen relative to other goods, inflation is being undercounted but housing is one of the main reasons it's being understated!Landlords absolutely use monopoly and political power to boost profit margins, they even have software to coordinate it now. They aren't hapless victims of the state, they basically control many municipalities.
what the fuck is all these retarded answers trying to explain whats a vagabond or neet or whatever? you dont need to explain because that was the point of this fucking thread. is the internet really all bots now or is the problem that it isnt?the point was that there isnt a better term for the people who spend their life drinking, doing drugs, pissing and shitting in the street, and they are simply called homeless as if the problem is they dont own property, diverting the attention from the real problem that is these people just dont fit into our society
I think in the U.S. the term started to be used in the 80s with the upsurge of people on the streets, and it was regarded as kinder than some of the specific categories in American slang that have been discussed here. Now you’re supposed to say “unhoused person”.
>>18425614Exactly.It's not the lack of property which makes parents afraid of letting their kids near the "homeless"It's their erratic drug fueled behaviour
>>18425478say what? Florida is the Mecca of homeless people.
>>18425394>Why not call them jobless and have work first programs?because pretty much every job in america requires you to have a home address>>18425479>Landlords can't just arbitrarily jack up the rent just because they want to.yes they can>There are shitloads of legal obstacles and set caps on how much they can raise it per year.varies from state to state. in general red states give more power to landlords vs the tenant.
>>18425853Live in a blue state then
>>18425614>what the fuck is all these retarded answers trying to explain whats a vagabond or neet or whatever?Because there's a difference you stupid faggot. Some guy who travels for work and basically lives in a hotel room or truck is not the same as some NEET who jerks off playing video games all day.
>>18425478>NGOs basically facilitate relocating vagrants from Red stateswhat NGOs? nice fox news propaganda lmao. red state municipal governments give them one way tickets to blue cities/states. there's numerous documented examples of this happening in my state (TX)
>>18425394Job isn't going to fix them either. Call them vagrants like we used to and lock them up.
>>18426131>lock them up.it's funny how the people that say this are often the ones that seethe about governments doing literally anything
>>18426192https://x.com/Sethrogen/status/1463674479272361987It's better to just shrug it off. It's just part & parcel of living in a big city
>>18425853I thought red states were supposed to be some rentoid wagie paradise with low taxes.
>>18426227They are, look at any map of national rent prices, admittedly mostly because no one actually wants to live there compared to some bedbug infested apartment in New Yawk City that costs 4x as much for less floor space
