Let's say a man becomes addicted to pornography and he eventually becomes attracted to children for whatever reason. (And I dont mean teenagers, but little kids).Would you consider him to be a bad person even if he does not act on it? Do you think he should be harmed or killed, or do you think he should try to fix his situation and abstain from pornography?
OP, if you're a pedophile, you should kill yourself. Either you will give in and harm children, or live a life of celibate misery. Do us all a favor and remove yourself from the gene pool.
Pedophiles are pretty fucked in the head Hebephillia and Ephobophillia however are different but they're still fucked up for other reasons
>>18425484- Being physically attracted to teens is normal, it's natural and understandable. A lot of women, specially the short and/or skinny/athletic kind, barely change their appearance from 13 to 20.- Being physically attracted to older kids is weird, but in an extreme way, the same argument as above could be made for some cases.- Being physically attracted to young kids is weird as fuck, your brain is probably fried by porn at this poin, or you are just a pedo.Now...- Being mentally attracted to teens is slightly concerning. It probably means you didn't develop properly past a certain age. Strong sign of manchildhood.- Being mentally attracted to kids is deeply concerning, either you were a victim at that age and has immense trauma, or you are a deeply fucked up individual that has no saving and probably should be burned alive for the sake of the public safety.Also, I read or heard this somewhere: If you are attracted not exclusively attracted to minors, you probably just have a porn addiction, most likely steaming from early porn consumption or some early sexual experience i.e. playing doctors while too young. Try looking for young looking legal women if that's your case, a cute dwarf, or wait for loli robots.
>>18425484Yes. Children are unironically the future as corny as that sounds. They are an investment. Nothing matters if we can't pass down what we build to be maintained by the next generation. Anyone who tries to curtail this by abusing children is in direct conflict with our core biological imperative to breed and nurture our young. They are defective from a purely Darwinian sense and should be removed from the gene pool violently before they continue to plague human development.
Being attracted to teenagers is perfectly natural. They are beginning to become sexually active, even if they are not quite ready. Being attracted to prepubescent is concerning.
>>18425484dependsdo they feel bad about these thoughts, try everything they can to mitigate them, including staying away from children? they need some mental care, given they never offended and never will. after all, this is the whole point of mental treatment, to help everyone struggling mentally and want to be cureddo they feel good about those desires, goon to images of actual minors (even if it’s not cheese pizza), and are the type to push for dangerous ideologies like maps? yeah, they should be locked in a mental institution whether they like it or not, because they are clearly not safe to be around society, and nobody likes them. maybe study them so we have a better understanding of pedophilia and reduce public harmactual offenders? woodchipper without hesitationlolicons/fictional fans? doesn’t count as actual pedophiles until it becomes real life
>>18425546i’d say gooning to csam is just as offending because victims were still involved in its production, and you contribute to their trauma and trafficking business by intentionally consuming it rather than immediately reporting it
>>18425509define physical vs mental attraction here
>>18425484It was considered normal to be attracted to preteens until the early 20th century. Age of consent was only raised to 13 (and then 16) from 10 in the late 19th century. Being attracted to younger kids <8 was considered odd, but nobody cared for the most part. There is a complete lack of seething about pedos in all historical texts.It's been scientifically proven that children and teenagers who have sexual relations with adults rarely have worse life outcomes compared to controls. Read this study:Rind, Bruce; Tromovitch, Philip; Bauserman, Robert (1998). "A Meta-Analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples">>18425509>Being mentally attracted to teens is slightly concerningSimp nonsense. Didn't read past this. All women are mentally children. The vast majority of human societies that have ever lived married teenage women to older men.>>18425550>csamIt's called child porn and the majority of it is produced by children themselves, according to authorities. Who is being victimized if they're the ones making it?
>>18425563>and the majority of it is produced by children themselvesElon Musk apparently took that as a challenge.
>>18425609Less Elon and more his south Asian and seasian DEI hires
>>18425484Depends on whether they act on their urges.And if they're willing to fix their urges.If they don't act & are willing to fix it then no.If they act & aren't ashamed then yes.
Everyone is a bad person. That’s why we need Jesus. He should repent of his sins and place his faith in Christ, and he will have peace with God.
>>18425484A pedo who realizes that his desires are harmful and fully abstains from them is not a bad person.I'd still have them shot because I'm not taking the risk, all it takes is one slip to ruin a kid's life.
I like teenage girls (legal ofc) because I never experienced teenage love myself.Also let's not pretend like this is a one way thing, I get way more attention from 17 year olds now in my early 20s than when I was 17 myself, and I also remember how girls my age where like back then.
>>18425563why are anime fans like this?
This >>18425643 is the correct answer, and it’s on display through the thread. The problem of pedophilia is the problem of man’s wickedness and propensity for sin from after the Fall, and the solution to this problem is always Jesus, through whom God manifested His love for mankind by opening a way out for him whom He would have been just to abandon and destroy. The solution offered by the foolish philosophies of the world is hatred, and in doing so stack sin upon sin, for if these >>18425486>kill yourself>>18425509>should be burned alive>>18425511>removed from the gene pool violently>>18425546>should be locked in a mental institution>woodchipper without hesitation>>18425648>have them shotAre not a violation of the 6th commandment then nothing could be. While it is good for justice to come through the state, it is only justice when brought against the objective offense which has been committed on the order of God, and not against the sinner as a man whom a murderer in his delusional pride thinks himself above, for if God were the one to mark iniquities not one could survive, before God all are equally worthy of death. Indeed, their sin is worse, as among sins committed among men we read of no other with such great odium that it made God respond with such shock and disgust as to ask “What have you done?” besides the first murder.
Is there a single good argument for why the AOC should be the same for men and women? Not necessarily saying it should be lowered for females, you can equally raise it for men, but given how girls reach sexual and mental maturity years before boys do it makes 0 sense for it to be equal.>Muh teen pregnanciesYeah, I'm sure teenage boys are very careful not to get their sex partners pregnant lmao.
>>18425484Of course not if we start judging people based on their intrusive thoughts than we would have to get rid of the vast majority of the population since everyone at some point thought of something objectively bad like robbing a bank or beating some anoying person or whatever
>>18425676>muh justiceFuck off with that utterly empty bullshit concept.The legal system exists to deal with social threats first and foremost (secondarily to shape and guide behaviour towards greater utility).Pedos are innate threats, so the only reasonable solution is excision. However, there's nothing beyond society, and quarantine isn't resource-efficient, therefore the only way of excision is execution.Therefore, pedos must be shot.
You do not chose what you like, I would not hate him but he iit isn't simply an infliction he is cursed.
>tfw tempted by beardless youths againtheologically speaking, why was this a recurring issue in the classical islamic world?
>>18425484Yes, the psychology behind it is quite clear, someone has to deliberately reinforce that fetish over and over despite there being ample amounts of adult porn and horny adult women and despite the social outrage over pedophilia., it is very targeted in someone's general experiences in life.Only in very exceptional circumstances, like someone being abused themselves as a child and developing the fetish before they turned 18, is it excusable, but even so it is not an ordeal to lock yourself in your room and jerk off to some old porn mag with Pamela Anderson. I am a horny man on 4chan so I know how crazy you get when your balls and various glands are full of fluid, but I also know I can coom to pretty much anything, so it would not be difficult for me to limit myself to adult porn and eventually my mind will find a way to make me bust a nut.So both the psychology and my own subject experience as a degenerate leads me to conclude that pedophilia is the product of someone's immorality and complete lack of care for what is happening, whether to the children or the fact they are gradually becoming more pedophilic.
>>18425484The real question is what about people who don't have access to pornography and still ended up that way. They were lots of pedophiles in ancient time, probably more than there are today
>>18425898When the women you see every day are dressed up in trashbags with only their faces being visible (at most), prepubescent boys are the next-most feminine thing. Not that a lack of attractive females is an excuse for disgusting behaviour (especially towards children), though.
>>18425917Good to know that even subhuman degenerates have their limits.
>>18425484No. Or at least legal action isn't necessary unless there are insights he will act on it. The problem is pornography and other tools rewards people for being impulsive.
>>18425954It is not really a limit. If I ever thought of a child in that way I'd just think "that's dumb" and move on to something else. At a certain point pedophiles must have thought "oh yeah! that's hot! and went with it, it betrays a lack of morality but also a species of derangement.If you can put aside your normy moral outrage you'll understand this important nuance.
>>18425676This mentality is why your country is a shithole you retarded mexican
>>18426045Third World countries tend to see a lot more pedo lynchings and executions than the West since there isn't any psychiatrists to make excuses for them.
>>18425744try to report lolicons to the fbi and they’ll just brush it off as a waste of time and resources 99% of the time
>>18425648we should also shoot all cishet men on sight because we never know if they will rape women or notask any radfem and they would 100% agree
>>18425683AOC should be deported to Mexico
>>18425554>define physical vs mental attraction hereUnder certain situations or due to certain individuals I could get a boner from it and perhaps even want to fuck it vs I want to have an active perhaps romantic relationship with this person>>18425563>Simp nonsense. Didn't read past this. All women are mentally children. The vast majority of human societies that have ever lived married teenage women to older men.While I do agree with most of your statement. The teenagers of today, hell even some of the adults, are not as mature as the teenagers back then. So I don't think it's a fair comparison
>>18426052No they arent you fucking beaner most CP comes from shithole spic countries as per annual data that comes out of interpol and other international law enforcement agency collaborations.
>>18425563>Rind, Bruce; Tromovitch, Philip; Bauserman, Robert (1998). "A Meta-Analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples"I know about this study but haven't read it (too lazy) but why was this study discredited? Are there other studies that show correlation between consensual child adult sex and psychological harm?
>>18425484Yes. I think the only ethical thing for a pedophile to do is to confess and undergo physical and chemical castration. If I were one, you can bet I would be running to a sex therapist/urologist for a surgical referral to nuke my sex drive and make me ace
>>18425744>Fuck off with that utterly empty bullshit concept.Ok so you’re saying the state should put you in a black site and torture you to death for the lulz?>>18426045Abandoning that mentality (aka the fear of God) is why the white race will go extinct. God has taken your blessings and given them to brown nations, since you did not love Him.
>>18426375>chemical castrationWith finasterid?
>>18426408>baldcel cope
>>18426375What's the point of chemical castration if someone's gonna get physically castrated anyway? I also wonder if some pedos would choose death over either.
>>18426375I sure bet you wouldn’t, this is the sort of thing exclusively thought by people thinking of what they would do if they were one and not people who are one.
>>18425484>do you consider people who defies God evil?
>>18425643You do realize that god put his seed into a 12 year old girl. You do realize that god's sons came to earth to TAKE wives. Not asked, but take. And you put your faith in predators and a paedophile. Crazy.
>>18426184Depends on the state. Lolicons have been arrested in places like Texas that consider fictional CP to still be CP.
>>18426601Retard, God does not have seed, it was a virgin birth.
>>18425563>it's been scientifically proven!!!>in one field of research by one man over 30 years ago (every other field and more recent research disagrees)>according to a meta analysis of questionnaires given to college students (lol)>not at all related to any actual study of the harm or its mechanisms>still the best it can do is say that harm may be confoundedIt's scientifically proven tho ...
>>18426355The study was discredited as it had a bunch of mistakes in its methodology, but the findings of the study were replicated by a later study by Ulrich et al. that corrected the errors in methodology.>>18426723>>in one field of research by one man over 30 years ago (every other field and more recent research disagrees)From what I've read so far this doesn't seem true at all. Though I feel like that anon you're replying to is mischaracterizing what was found in that study.A study from 2019 also cites Ulrich's findings as well as many others to support the conclusion that there is a strong consistency between childhood sexual abuse and later psychosocial and physical outcomes. However the study does note that the body of knowledge has holes in things like separating other factors such as familial instability and the presence of other forms of child abuse from child sexual abuse, which the study admits that these sorts of things often are co-occurrent.https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2215-0366%2819%2930286-XI used google scholar to help me find sources:https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=4982582758609671586
>>18425484I consider them to be sexually retarded. And to most likely be a product of poor stock or inbreeding.
