>>18425619it was Slavic, so yes
>>18425619It seems to be a similar situation to the influence of the Magyars in Hungary (i.e. not much genetic turnover, but significant cultural change).
>>18425619Not aryan, but aristos
So let me get this straight non christian Lebanese are white?
>>18425654An "Aryan" population was never in Greece. A steppe admixed proto-Greek speaking Balkan group that was about 75% non-steppe moved into Greece and that population made up about a third of genepool among later Greeks up until the Hellenistic period. The answer to the question is Greece was never Aryan. If it was 1890, OK, good question.
>>18425943If you want to be pedantic and not consider them Aryan as such, okay. By the same logic we could say the Vedics weren't Aryan.The fact is the ultimate progenitor of these populations was Aryan. That they admixed with other peoples along thr way doesn't alter that the PIE complex was the fountainhead for their culture, identity and language.
>>18425960And yes, I will use "Aryan" as a convenient and useful shorthand. I reject the bourgeous clinical pedantry that surrounds this terminology and you should too.
>>18425960it seems more like the people who called themselves aryan were just one of many pie groups, you're trying to make this something it isn't
>>18425960indians are more aryan than greeks
>>18425979>i-is that white people with white phenotypes...but with a slight tan??
>>18425979Aristos* yes.They were indo-european Aryans who worship aryan gods and spoke/speak an Aryan language, just like anyone else in aryavarta/europe. They just had less aryan ancestry than their northern cousins>g25 distancesCope
>>18425993No.
>>18425988Indo-European called themselves aryan/h2eryós since Srendy Stog actually. Millennium ethnonym
>>18426000They do, Ecuadorian saar
>>18425988>ummm acktchually it's the proto-srubyanyamnakova culture chudWe must refuse to play this silly little game.
>>18425999of course. 25% aryan in nw pajeets (same amount as the proto-greek group the other poster mentioned) vs 10% in ancient greeks
>>18426015Mutt, Logkas had almost 43% Aryan ancestry, and these (possible) Doric samples from the classical period have 35% on average. That's pretty common throughout the Meds
>>18426025*Mediterranean
About greeks..>Among the newly generated individuals, however, we report here the occurrence of four individuals from three different sites in Bronze Age Greece carrying the R-Z2103 lineage. All four of them can be placed in the R-Z2110 (R1b1a1b1b3a1, Z2103 > M12149 > Z2106 > Z2108 > Z2110) branch; similar to previously published Yamnaya individuals, who belong to R-Z2108Logkas samples are the most interesting. These ones were at ~40% Steppe. All other Myceaneans clustered around 15% Steppe, yes, but maybe would be those Logkas could either be related to Illyrians, OR more interestingly could be the steppe signal that brought the IE language which admixed with the EEF substrate giving rise to Homeric Greek. Aryaamnaya samples from Moldova R1b Z2109 from Cahul and J2b L283 from Constantinovca have IBD sharing with Logkas. Cahul, Moldova is also where Crihana Veche is located.maybe Armenochori was the vector for these guys into Dalmatia Cetina in Croatia, Albania Cetina at Shkrel Tumulus, and even down into the Peloponnesus there in Greece. Some sort of hub up over yonder around Bubanj Hum III and Armenochori.Some new greek samples from Akbari et al. 2026, 30% steppe.
>>18426002who called themselves that, exactly, and why is it not the word arya?
>>18426025what do you mean when you say aryan ancestry?
>>18425979So they were tanned white people?My god...
>>18426000t. Pasty poltard who never leaves mom's basement
>>18425960I don't think that was pedantic. What you're saying is rooted in Nazi cartoons and not even 15 seconds of critical thinking. No offense.
>>18426190Uh ok? What am i supposed to be looking at here?
>>18425619Yes.
>>18426183the men who were outside all day in the Mediterranean sun were brown skinned and all the rich wealthy sisas were pale skinned from being inside. Same as current day.
>>18426114The steppe people with horses, cows, bronze and copper, kurgans and deus pater.
>>18425995>>18426183Yeah that's why ''white people'' on 4chin call modern Greeks ''non white'' when if you look at genetics they are actually whiter than the ancient Greeks since they are the same as the ancient Greeks + some slavic admix. You only call those people white because they had a great civilization when white people in northern Europe had none and were barbarians who couldn't read/write living in crude mudhuts. You are a bunch of pathetic frauds with no actual principles
>>18426361>when if you look at genetics they are actually whiter than the ancient Greeks since they are the same as the ancient Greeks + some slavic admixThey are 1/3 Levantine/Anatolian
>>18427299Greeks were always mixed with Anatolians and they mixed with them more during the Classical/Hellenistic period. That Tenea sample already indicates this. J2 haplo is of Anatolian origin.
>>18427306>Greeks were always mixed with Anatolians and they mixed with them more during the Classical/Hellenistic period.So they didn't just get more Slavic, why did you not say that?This is like ignoring Slavic ancestry because "Greeks always mixed with northern peoples"
>>18427331Because it's Classical/Hellenistic Greece that people care about, not Mycenaeans. That included Ionians who were very mixed with them.
>>18426025>and these (possible) Doric sampleskeeeeeeeeeeeeek
