At this point, the overwhelming evidence for the Aryan invasion ops!!! "migration" is so multifaceted that only Indian nationalists seem to deny it, and their arguments are flawed across the board, from linguistics to archaeogenetics. And, as if that weren't enough, attempts to use material archaeology to refute the migration have also fallen flat.One of the most commonly cited arguments against the Aryan migration is the supposed lack of mention of it in Vedic literature. However, In fact, some scholars have pointed out that certain Vedic texts do contain references to migrations from Afghanistan into India. recent research has identified a passage that appears to describe the movement of Indo-Aryan speakers from the northwest into the saar subcontinent.Witzel cites a passage from the Baudhayana Srautasutra describing the migration of two groups: Ayu, who went east (Kuru-Pancalas and Kasi-Videhas), and Amavasu, who remained in the west (Gandharas, Parsavas, and Arattas). this passage could correlate these groups with pottery types (gray pottery, painted gray pottery, and northern black polished pottery) and Indo-Aryan dialects (with "r" and "l" sounds). He suggests that later Vedic texts speak of a migration from the west, based on Michael Witzel's claims. >The other passage tells the origin of two groups of Aryans, the Amavasu “who stayed at home” and who include the Gandhari, the Parsu and Aratta, and that of the Ayava “who moved eastwards”
>>18427796Witzel has always been somewhat of a libtard anyway, but you can't deny the work this guy did in the field which made many poopers dilate to this day And since we're talking about Vedic languages, once again it has been proven that the association of European ancestry and Aryan vs Dravidian languages was correct in the end.
Indian nationalists aren't even taken seriously in India. Aryan invasion, from the forest steppe, has been totally proven for well over a decade. You need literally zero (0) primary sources talking about it against the archaeologists, genetic and linguistic researchers whose models have only become stronger as people tried to chip away at the central premise. The sad part is that they, Tamerlane and so many others who crossed the Hindu Kush were not armed with fucking nukes.
>>18427836>Indian nationalists aren't even taken seriously in IndiaNice try
>>18427796The passage through the Hindu Kush is perhaps recounted in the Rig Veda. >Though it was wide, the land has become narrow. Gods, be on the lookout for a path for the singer who is in this state on his quest for cattle. (6.47)
>>18427808Papers continue to be released. Need more samples
>>18427796https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Arctic_Home_in_the_Vedas
>>18427872BSThey came from steppes
>>18427796Isotopes suggest men from Corded Ware and Bell Beaker cultures traveled to other regions and returned. It's speculated these trips might've been warrior "excursions", like those by Germanic and Celtic peoples, involving mercenary work or raids. There are also references to warriors using animal symbols, like wolves, in cultures like Scythians, Germanic tribes, Lombards, and Dacians.>At the end of four years, there was a final vrtyastoma sacrifice to transform the Dog/Warriors into responsible adult men who were ready to return to civil life (Kershaw 2000:63). They discarded and destroyed their old clothes and dog skins. They became human once again and were welcomed back into their villages as members of the community.
>>18427894Very interesting!!
>>18427836>Indian nationalists aren't even taken seriously in India. Aryan invasion, from the forest steppe, has been totally proven for well over a decade
>>18427899Kek Harappans are not Indigenous to Indian subcontinent. Their West Eurasian source comes from Near East and admixture with AASI is a(Narasimahan et al). Mehrgarh I does have local background and they likely domesticated Zebu, but Mehrgarh II is overwhelmingly of Near Eastern origin. Saar
>>18427872>>18427876>>18427836Fatyanovo is believed to have given rise to Abashevo which gave rise to the Sintashta which then gave rise to Andronovo. Yes, The Sintashta and Andronovo are clearly Indo-Iranians, but The Fatyanovo and Abashevo can be regarded as proto-Indo-Iranians. Afaik, the Fatyanovo represented the very beginnings of the Indo-Iranian peoples' split away from the Corded Ware Culture. By the time the Sintashta culture rolled around, the split was fully complete.
>>18427911>Fatyanovo and Abashevo can be regarded as proto-Indo-Iranians.I disagree. But obviously Fatyanovo was involved in the formation of the Piir, but I believe something like "pre-proto-Indo-Iranian" or even Indo-Slavic is more accurate considering the evidence we have now.
>>18427917>Indo-SlavicCorrect me if I'm wrong, but isn't that practically nebulous according to linguists today?
>>18427911Hi! Fatyanovo is a typical Corded Ware culture of Eastern Europe, while Abashevo marks a divergence, with a transition to kurgans and the development of metallurgy and the use of horses. It is believed that the Proto-Indo-Iranians emerged in the southeastern region of Fatyanovo, and the linguistic separation likely occurred during the Abashevo period, with the presence of terms for camel and war chariots in the Proto-Indo-Iranian lexicon
Vedic were Brown
>>18427929No, they weren't
