Is Türkiye considered white and European from a historical/cultural standpoint?
No.t. Turk
>>18428602No.t. Half-Turk
What I find so interesting about Turks is that there is so much variety to how they look. There is no one Turkish phenotype whereas other MENA groups do have this. Algerians have a certain look, Iranians have a certain look, Syrians have a certain look and Egyptians definitely have a common look, but for Turks it’s all over the place. There are Turks who look like Ozil, Turks who look like mulattos with Afros like Taylan Bulut and other Turks look completely white like that guy who is spammed on the Varg meme. Other Turks look straight up East Asian
>>18428646The average Turk look is light tan skin with black hair. There is some variation like you mentioned, but I think you're exaggerating
>>18428602They would be considered pretty much a med flavour of hungarians if not for Islam. Being a muslims makes you by default a brown non-european for the average european mind, regardless of your skin color (this include albanians and bosnians)>>18428646Because being Turkish is a national identity and not and ethnicity. They are and unholy mix of God know how many different people that either migrated there, or were mass deported as slaves. Before Ataturk being a muslim was the true cohesive force of their people. Altought that cohesion already started to rot with the Tanzimat reform (the original Turkish LARP of European culture) a century before
>>18428673Bosnians and Albanians. They are obviously despised to some extent (at least the latter), but are undoubtedly seen as white by the mainstream
>>18428602>TürkiyelolTurks are mutts. They were originally siberians that looked like eskimos but then they raped/mutted their way across central Asia and the middle east. The turks who stayed home in Siberia still look like eskimos. I have one Yupik friend who always tells me that Kazakh exchange students look like the girls from his village
>>18428682pardon the samefag, but I forgot to add that it just goes to show that language family (and culture) is separate from genetics or race
>>18428682Turkmens (Oghuz Turks who stayed behind) do not look like Eskimos
>>18428675>Bosnians and Albanians.Bosnians are straight-up White people while Albanians are further down the scale.
>>18428602Historically it could. Culturally not at all.It just feels like a European land occupied by Muslim roaches now, Ur if we go before the Ottomans, maybe it was oriental Europe yeah
>>18428602Looks to be the whitest team in FIFA to be honest.
>>18429403idk....are Bosnians white nowadays?
>>18428602No.t. Australian
>>18428675>>18428691If they are looked down on other western countries, then its usually the situation of militant muslims (rarer in the case of albanians, they dont care Mich about religion) and thus its because the have weird beards, sandals, women in trashbags etc.; in comparison a Lebanese or another MENA Christian fully westernized would be accepted more easily, even if somewhat swartier.So as i said for the european mind having the look of a muslims disqualify yourself from being a White Europeans. The actuall skin color dosent matter
>>18429558*So as i said for the european mind having the look of a muslim disqualify yourself from being a White European. The actuall skin color dosent matter
