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>god isn't real
>after billions of years of evolution, every group of humans on earth have a seemingly instinctive urge to worship a superior being
why?
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Most humans worshiped lots of different "superior beings". Not one particular one. It's only relatively recently that religion coalesced around 3 major religions (Christianity, Islam, Hinduism) and only 2 of those are monotheistic, and they don't even agree with each other about god's essential nature or the correct way to worship him.

If religion is your "gotcha" it's not a convincing one. There's been thousands of religions in just the recorded history of mankind we have.
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>>18429783
Religion is a skinner box combined with the tendency to anthropomorphize everything.
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>>18429791
The vast majority of cultures around the world have some sort of idea of the “one true God”. Even in Hinduism, the worshipping of idols is sort of a compromise for the dumb masses bc they can’t wrap their head around the idea of a transcendent God.
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God was a dream of good government
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>>18429783
Why are you half dead if you were in the right?
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>>18429799
>The vast majority of cultures around the world have some sort of idea of the “one true God”.
No they don't. The only reason you'd even come up with this idea is to justify your own religious belief. Monotheism is a pretty unusual occurrence in religion.
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Schizophrenia. Human brain used to have one side commanding other side what to do and people couldn't tell if it was real or not.
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Consciousness and rational thinking are recent developments. We're still living in a post animist schizoid world.
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Why would God give us the inherent sense that something similar to Himself exists? It's clearly too vague a feeling for people to independently, spontaneously become aware of the Biblical God as He exists. God still has to reveal Himself to humanity for them to know Him.
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>scratching at wounds is bad
>after billions of years of evolution, every group of humans on earth have a seemingly instinctive urge to scratch at their itchy wounds
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>>18430048
You watched Tor Parsons
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>>18429843
>Monotheism is a pretty unusual occurrence in religion.
Not true, see Karen Armstrong among other writers. The earliest cave depictions of God always depict *a* God, not several. Current research suggests that polytheism occurred after the joining of two or more tribes, whether peacefully or through force. Part of the agreement was often that all the old tribes' gods were valid, which ultimately resulted in pantheons emerging.
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>>18430119
>The earliest cave depictions of God always depict *a* God, not several.
Citation needed
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>>18430119
Christian apologist revisionist propaganda, ancient cultures were animist/pantheist while the mind was still trying to orient itself in the flux of the universe. Everyone had schizophrenia
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>>18429783
Religion was helpful when humanity was evolving, and in many ways is still helpful. But it isn't true and deities don't exist.

It's just some cultural/psychological shit that helps humans cope with their own mortality, since they're the only creatures capable of fully comprehending it, and it's scary. Other animals never have to sit around and think about that shit, they just eat and drop dumps and then one day they get eaten.
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>>18430048
moderns literally believe they're smarter than everyone else in history
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>>18429783
Isn't he though really?
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>>18430144
Moderns invented everything though. You're just seething because you're retarded like everyone else in the past.
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>>18429783
>god real because some monkeys (might) have had a belief system in something for a few million years (which is a blip for life on earth much less the universe)
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>>18430138
This pretty much. I don't think I can overstate how awful atheism is for people. I'm an atheist and I volunteer weekly at children's Bible studies trying to contain it as best I can.
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>>18429783
it's how we cope with uncertainty
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>>18429783
Psychological technology to enhance group cohesion. It is that easy.
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>>18429783
God allows whoever he wants to experience him. He hides from those who think they know everything and reveals himself to those who acknowledge that they know nothing.
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>>18430122
>Everyone had schizophrenia
maybe modernists and their inability to integrate themselves into nature's rhythms are the schizophrenic ones. ever considered that, faggot?
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>>18430138
>But it isn't true and deities don't exist.
You sound jewish. How do you know this with absolute uncertainty?
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>>18430255
>Moderns invented everything though.
They invented a fake global society with imaginary values like GDP + completely unsustainable oil-based economy.
I'm glad most of you subhuman retards will die soon, truthfully.
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>>18430476
*certainty, rather

Anyways, otherworldly entities do exist and you can read about them.
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>>18429783
Just the humans though, not the trillions of beetles he made
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>>18430486
Beetles aren't sentient.
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Both atheism and agnosticism are naturalist positions thus not creationist positions. Its a TRUE DICHOTOMY NO POSSIBLE 3RD POSITION
Both atheism and agnosticism are positions of non-positions, the difference is agnostics say they dont have enough information to make the call
Both positions are still in contradiction with 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and quantum mechanics
>not a single naturalist position is backed by natural science go ahead and name one (you can't)
>God is scientifically proven
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>>18430534
>worshipping Bernard d'Espagnat (particle physicist)
What a strange religion...
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I think humanity just doesn't want to accept they are alone, no there has to be some sort of cosmic being watching us, guiding us.
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>>18430552
What about refuting the experiment demonstrated?
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>>18430558
I'm not a physicist and neither are you. You've got one physicist saying that some form of idealism or whatever is true because XYZ and you worship him, end of. We could get into some sort of worship-battle where I'd list off another physicist who disagreed with him, but what would be the point?
The bottom line is that you're emotionally attached to the idea that there's a god, an afterlife, that you're a very special boy etc. and are looking for reassurance.
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>>18429783
>evolution works over millions of years
>makes definitive statements about human nature without having a clue what will happen in the future
>the world is becoming more atheistic with the increase in technological advancement, fueled by evolution
why are christcucks so dumb?
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>>18430566
No honey, naturalism is refuted by naturalism. Thats why atheism is self refuting and self defeating.
This has little to do with idealism and everything to do with empirical evidence. Thats what science is, logic + cause&effect
Dont care about what physicist you cite and neither do I, I care about what is being demonstrated. Thats how you validate causes
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>>18430575
Nice esl babbling. If you want to worship Bernard d'Espagnat because it helps reassure you about god or whatever, that's your prerogative.
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>>18430578
No serious person cares about who is being cited, they care about the work and its falsifiability
Can you refute the experiment or keep sucking off the author? You seem to care about mentioning his name more than I do
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>>18430582
Neither of us is a physicist with the skill to debunk, rebunk or prebunk the work of actual trained physicists. You're just worshipping Mr. Bernard d'Espagnat because you want god to be real.
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>>18429783
>Dragons aren't real
>after billions of years of evolution, every group of humans on earth have come up with their own dragons in mythos.
why?
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>>18430596
It's actually an interesting question though, and the explanation that all of humanity just happens to have collective trauma over the existence of a reptile we can easily murder with rocks and sticks doesn't cut it.
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>>18429783
religion is psychosexual, and monotheism is a subconscious reflection of the nuclear family and of monarchy, which is the rule of men by threat of violence. Monotheism, the concept of the soul, didn't exist until society became agricultural and stratified.
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>>18430596
There are many cultures with no concept of dragons, there are none with no religion. The only explanation is that God wrote the knowledge of Himself on the soul of man. Atheism is ridiculous
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>>18430589
Appeal to credentials and expertise fallacy
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>>18430734
If knowledge of God is innate to humans then why do they worship different gods? Why did this god supposedly only reveal himself to a select few in the Middle East region?
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>>18430734
Stop worshipping jeewish deities.
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>>18430869
Your getting lost in the different names people have for an emotion that to them describes a transcendent being. As for why people have different belief systems, how could they not we live in a temporal world where things are relative. It will have to diverge because of that it's only natural.
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>>18430900
>As for why people have different belief systems, how could they not we live in a temporal world where things are relative. It will have to diverge because of that it's only natural.
Because the god you argue for allegedly has very specific rules his followers must follow so it would be completely nonsensical for him to prevent his creations from following those rules because they have no idea the rules even exist because this god allegedly only showed himself and conveyed his rules to a select group of people at a select place in a select time. Did the Abrahamic know knowingly create Native Americans without imparting knowledge of Judaism or Jesus to them, condemning them all to being unable to enter paradise for thousands and thousands of years until Europeans showed up?
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>>18430903
I think the answer to that is God wil judge those people according to the tradition and knowledge they got and how they acted towards it.
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>>18430925
What do you base that answer on and if the rules are sacred and meant to be followed why would they also not be imparted with the same knowledge?
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>>18430930
I am answering from my own understanding of things. It's isn't about that the rules are sacred independently on their own. The rules are for us the follow and treat in a sacred manner. As for the knowledge part I want to ask you what do you understand knowledge to be in this context?
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>>18430953
>I am answering from my own understanding of things.
And I'm asking where you got this understanding from. Is it from religious texts, a religious authority or is it just your own headcanon?
>It's isn't about that the rules are sacred independently on their own. The rules are for us the follow and treat in a sacred manner.
Again, what do you base this on? If the rules come from God then are they not sacred? Do you know better than God or Abraham?
>As for the knowledge part I want to ask you what do you understand knowledge to be in this context?
The sort of knowledge that gets you from general theism to a specific God with specific rules. How do you go from Prime Mover or just a general vague feeling that something in the universe has supernatural properties to "circumcise your sons, don't eat these foods, rest on this day" etc?
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>>18430958
My own understanding/headcannon.
What does sacred mean within the context humans?
As for the knowledge part that is up to you and your own judgement everyone has their own set of guidelines they use for what they deem the right path to follow. As for the specific rules that people end up following within religions, because it's part of their tradition and how they understand it. The specifics of that is that God at some point sent a messenger whom he gave knowledge on how he was to be worshiped and followed and that person then spread it to the people in his surroundings.
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>>18429783
Because God is the Positive and we are the negative. We are all attracted to God. Even the sorry arse Atheists, who spend all their days talking about God nonstop. It's pretty funny to see this. They don't understand that they are sick.



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