"Okay, what would be evidence for God's existence?">"...">"YOU FUCKING RETARDED CHRISTIANS FUCKING ALWAYS FUCKING-"why are they like this??
How's that strawman you're boxing? Holding up?
degeneracy is the primary motive to reject God, they weren't really thinking about theology rather something along the lines of "why can't I stick my dick in another guy's ass, this is so unfair" or "I hate working and I hate going to church, karl marx said I don't have to do either"
You are a devout Christian yes? Then bring Mount Olympus to my front door. You should be able to.
>>18432460>faces the slightest challenge to his ego>immediately begins thinking of gay sex
>>18432457The evidence for God's existence is literally the entire world. But nothing can actually be said about God because God is perfectly simple.
>>18432457Evidence for the existence of the Abrahamic God status: still missing
>>18432457Give me a piece of god that I can put in a Petri dish and study with a microscope.
>>18432458Okay, what would be evidence for God's existence?
>>18432491>>18432494Here: >>18432462
>>18432503Yahweh isn't God. Unfortunately.
>>18432506And the cope begins. Everything below this post is cope upon cope and seethe upon seethe. I'm driving home in 15 minutes. There better be a mountain there when I arrive.
>>18432457I don't believe in God because I don't know what a god is
>>18432494>Give me a piece of love that I can put in a Petri dish and study with a microscope.lollmao even
>>18432516Or perhaps>Give me a piece of energy I can put in a petri dish and study
>>18432457>There is no Evidence for God's ExistenceThere is evidence for virtually anything, I just don't think the evidence for god's existence is good.
>>18432516"Love", the abstract concept, doesn't exist. But you can in fact study oxytocin and vasopressin in a lab, which are the neuropeptides which regulate social behavior, including what gets simplified as "love".
>>18432520Energy is a number, it's a thing you calculate, it's not a "substance", it doesn't exist as more than a mathematical tool.
>>18432501If God appeared in a flash of holy light, accompanied by his heavenly host, said "Hello I'm God, now watch this miracle," instantly healed all the kids in the children's hospital, and then flew back into heaven again in a column of holy flame, with all the angels swirling behind him, I would consider that evidence. Shouldn't be too much of an ask, considering he's omnipotent and all.
>>18432457Not how it works. If you're making a case, you present whatever material you consider as evidence that supports your case. Then people will judge the validity of that evidence. It's not other people's problem to carefully define this before the case, and there isn't an exact whitelist in the first place
>>18432524Energy is definitely a real thing. For example, after I fuck your whore mother for hours on end, I'm all out of energy after dumping countless loads into her loose cunt and need to rest for a few hours to get it back.
>>18432522>"Love", the abstract concept, doesn't exist.I guess you wouldnt know love
>>18432524>Energy is a number, it's a thing you calculate, it's not a "substance", it doesn't exist as more than a mathematical tool.A statement that can't be proven.
>>18432528Also keep in mind God used to do this sort of thing all the time in the Bronze Age, so it's clearly not that much trouble.
>>18432530>Energy is definitely a real thing. For example, after I fuck your whore mother for hours on end, I'm all out of energy after dumping countless loads into her loose cunt and need to rest for a few hours to get it back.So this is the power of 2026 christian apologetics...
>>18432457JRR Tolkien does not appear in the Lord of the Rings trilogy.At no point does Frodo or Gandalf meet the author of their world.This does not mean that Tolkien does not exist, and the Lord of the Rings world happened by pure chance. You can learn a lot about Tolkien from exploring the world he created
>>18432528>Be satan>Decide to convince the gullible people to worship you by pretending to be God and appearing as a great light in the heavens and doing miracles>Said gullible people start worshiping youSee, Christians have the book of Revelation to warn them of such things.
>>18432537Praise be to Allah (SWT)>>18432541And Muslims know not to worship a man who comes out of the sky saying he is Allah (SWT) because they were warned. Funny. How will you know when Jesus is finally here? When he affirms Catholicism? Rum Orthodox? Judaism? Baptists? Mormonism? The Prophet (PBUH) reminded us to focus only on the divine.
>>18432536Yeah, and keep in mind that despite the miracles God did in the desert, the people still ended up worshiping a cow.
>>18432524To calculate it you need the adequate technology, retard.Do you think humans recognized radio waves before we had something to catch them?, do you think we could have built something that catches that frequency if we followed your dumbass way of thinking?>Hurr durr i believe in science but dont even know how it works piece of shit
Atheism is literally empowered ignorance
>>18432541>No, see, actually, God can't do that because Satan is more powerful than GodYou are so fucked, rodent.
>>18432555Theism is a bit of a meme. Most contemporary philosophers are atheists.
>>18432555God blinded them so that they could live like the cattle they are.
>>18432552>To calculate it you need the adequate technologyAre you demented? That is entirely unrelated to the point that "energy" does not refer to a real substance.>Do you think humans recognized radio waves before we had something to catch them?Radio waves aren't a purely mathematical abstraction. They're photons.
>>18432457Evidence is a thing which demonstrates or makes more probable the truth of a proposition. Considering the evidence, I say that god probably does not exist and that christianity is certainly false...
>>18432573Energy is the signature of an incomplete existence. It is the measure of an object’s distance from its final coordinate in the universe. Until a particle settles into that one proper spot dictated by the path of least action, it remains excited. Therefore, energy isn't a property an object has; it is the degree to which an object has not yet fully arrived at its own reality, and therefore it is relational.
Got home. No mountain. Guess you don't have enough faith anons.
>>18432596>Considering the evidence, that I didnt list. I say that god probably does not exist and that my strawman version of christianity is certainly false...And using this post as evidence. I can say with confidence that this anon is certainly a midwit.
>>18432606>the evidence, that I didnt listYeah it's funny that nobody actually wants to list this supposed evidence.
>>18432616Everything that exists is evidence of God
>>18432619Sunday school zinger.
>>18432619>>18432616>>18432457There are two pieces of evidence, namely for the existence of god and for the reality of the covenant.The first are proven through the miracles performed by the saints, the second are proven by the existence of the Protestants. If god didn't exist, there would be no miracles and if the covenant wasn't real, he would've wiped the Earth in order to free us of the Protestant heresy.
>>18432636>miracles performed by the saintsYes and Apollonius and Vespasian also did miracles (the same ones as Jesus even) and with eyewitnesses. Were they too divine?
>>18432636>miraclesHearsay>protestants existingDoesn’t even rise to the level of probable cause. It is just as likely if not more likely that Protestants existing is a product of there being no god as there being a benevolent one.Anon’s case is dismissed for failure to state a claim upon which faith can be sought. It is so ordered.
>>18432457Christians pretend not to understand things thus making discourse impossible
>>18432636>The first are proven through the miracles performed by the saints [...] If god didn't exist, there would be no miraclesThis is a textbook example of affirming he consequent. These debates are such a shitshow because most of the participants can't into basic logic.
>>18432546>Praise be to Allah (SWT) what does SWT stand for? Sex With Toddlers? kinda on the nose from you pedo cunts
>>18432541>You are gullible if you are convinced by tangible actions>You are smart if you believe random unproven claimsCuckstrianity truly has brainwashed people beyond repair
Just hit us with whatever you think is the best evidence you got see what happens
>nothing would be evidence of GodYes. This is a problem with theism as a theory. It's not a fucking theory. Theism does not make testable predications. God got a superpower (omnipotence), that makes him able to explain anything. So you're never going to be able to have contrastive explanations.God can explain any and all outcomes.
Its more devastating that there's zero proof that jews were slaves in Egypt. It undermines the entire Old Testament.
>>18432747What's most probable Jews being slaves in Egypt (yet there being no evidence for this, except OT) or man rising from the dead 2000 years ago?
>>18432732theists can't make a falsification claim, while atheists can, it's shocking how simple it is once you learn how to think properly
>>18432636The hellenic philosophers did a shitton of miracles at the same time though. They even changed the weather.
>>18432457And all the other Gods?
>>18432836Psalms 82 The divine council of gods determining the flood and the fate of mankind was copied from the Enuma Elish.
>>18432867Psalm 82 talks about a flood? Lol
>>18432457atheists are stupid OP, that's why they believe what they do (nonsense).
>well yeah I have no proof of a diety (much less my specific diety)>but uuuuhhhh you can't uh prove he doesn't exist or some shitso why are you insisting on something being real, along with insisting said thing shoudl shape our lives, if you can't even give a plausible explanation for it not existing
>>18432457"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God!"You have to prove to me that my God doesn't exist, chrisitan.
>>18432541If Satan exists and can trick people into thinking that he is God or send by God it could mean that your entire religion could also be just a product of Satan. Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, Joseph Smith and all other religious figure could have just been Satan, a person tricked by Satan or an agent of Satan if you presuppose that Satan exists and that he can trick people into a religion.
"Okay, what would be evidence for the existence of shy invisible fairies?"
>>18432457>what would be evidence for God's existence?That'll be 95 measurements, three theories, 700 experiments, and 17 mathematical formulae + tax + tip, please. Also a supermajority of living PHD scientists have to answer a poll to the effect that they accept all that.
>>18432522Even under strict physicalism, love isn’t an abstract concept in the same way that mathematical concepts or logical categories are. Feelings akin to love are correlated with vasopressin, oxytocin, and any number of other neurotransmitters and hormones. But love is also social behaviour, mediated by social relations, existing within social class structure. A good chunk of what you call love isn’t to be found in brain chemicals or brain states, but in the ways we express ourselves socially. You can’t separate nature, nurture and environment/society, then retain only the former “biochemical nature of love” because it sounds more “scientific” to you. You mention social behaviour, but without grounding love in society there is no point in talking about neurotransmitters that perform a myriad of other functions in the body (such as regulating blood pressure and kidney metabolism which is the primary function of vasopressin).Love must always be placed in historical, social and neurological bases for the full physicalist picture, otherwise you are talking about chemicals and not love.
>>18432753Since we have the Shroud of Turin, the latter. Turns out the entire Bible was created just to give the resurrection of Jesus meaning.
>>18432457Both atheism and agnosticism are naturalist positions thus not creationist positions. Its a TRUE DICHOTOMY NO POSSIBLE 3RD POSITION.Both atheism and agnosticism are positions of non-positions, the difference is agnostics say they dont have enough information to make the call.Both positions are still in contradiction with 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and quantum mechanics, which empirically and scientifically prove creationism
>>18432501According to the Elijah Test in 1 Kings 18:20-40 of the bible, the people who worship the true god should be able to put out their offering of blessed bull meat on a piece of wood and two seahs (about 14.6 liters) of seed in the trench of an altar made of twelve stones and call on the one true god of abraham to instantly incinerate it through spontaneous combustion without any fire actually being put to it and any people who claim to believe in god, but can not accomplish that simple task should be put to death for worshiping a false Baal tier god.
>>18432534If you actually knew anything about mathematical proofs and ever passed a basic physics course to understand derivative interaction of physical units, you would know how to measure energy and how to derive energy from the positional differentials of massive bodies over time since energy is just made up of the physical units kg*m^2/s^2 and E=mc^2.
>>18432555Theists have to project their insecurity about ignorance since their god is always hiding in the gaps and actively exploiting human ignorance.
>>18432599>Energy is the signature of an incomplete existenceNo, energy is a measure of the work of a mass which is just the mass's power across time also known as the force of the mass over a distance where force is the acceleration of a mass.
>>18433164Imagine using all those words to say exactly the same thing.
>>18432606>the evidence, that I didnt listYou don't matter in defining christian lore, it is publicly available, you didn't didn't invent christianity and you are not the gatekeeper of its canon, so your opinion is not necessary.
>>18432457Evidence of prayers working, evidence of people being miraculously healed, evidence of the non-trivial cosmology in the holy books. All of that would count.
>>18433165Its less than 20 words if you ignore all the words less than three letters which is not that many words at all and its definitely not saying the same thing at all since most of the words I used are presenting physical quantities with measureable units like time, distance, mass, acceleration, force, work, and energy and the words you used are presenting your own impotence and ignorance about physical quantities like time, distance, mass and how they interact to yield derivative physical quantities like acceleration, force, work, and energy.
>>18433174All of these words and you're still missing the point. A cartographer who fell in love with the map rather than the territory.
>>18433171>All of that would count.Nope, the other false gods also did things like and the bible clearly showed that the only way to test who is invoking the one true god to the degree that capital punishment implications for failure could be enforced was >>18433147.
>>18433128>1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamicsNo, those only apply to closed systems, so wouldn't apply to a dynamic totality.>which empirically and scientifically prove creationismEmpiricism is not proof, it is evidence, since the senses are flawed.Feel free to present the scientific framework you are insinuating definitely proves agentic creationism instead of spontaneous expansion.
>>18433177All of this woo and you can't make a real point, someone trying to defend a territory you don't even know how to map out.
>>18433178>the other false gods also did things likeI don't care. I'm talking about evidence for anything supernatural. Not just the bible.
>>18433185I don't care, this thread is about proof of god's existence not whatever goalpost you are trying to move it to. God of the bible gave a very clear test >>18433147 to prove his existence and prove you are worshiping the one true god instead of one of the many false gods of the fallen world of man.
>>18433186Fuck off. This thread is about atheism and evidence, not some jewish bs.
>>18433188How is that not exactly an evidence based experiment and why would you be afraid of it as an atheist who isn't actually making any claim that could be related to a false god, so wouldn't risk capital punishment to do it?
>>18433201Okay, if the worshippers of the abrahamic god do that feat you described, it would count as evidence for the abrahamic god. Now please show me the evidence of it being done.
>>18432747That the land taking didn't happen seems worse as it nullifies the Russian and Polish claim to Israel even on the political level.
>>18432457Because they aren't interested in debate.They simply wish to attack Christianity so as to erode the moral basis upon which the West stands.Athiesm is a vile cult created by the Talmudists, for a specific purpose.
>>18432460Not quite, the destruction of Christianity is mainly pushed to make way for usury.
>>18433211It was originally documented in 1 Kings 18:20-40 as I said, but yes it should be repeatable so anyone who claims to believe in god should be forced to do it or suffer the consequences according to the bible.>>18433147
>>18432457The whole nature around them is evidence, but they cannot reason, so why even bother wasting your time/life with them.Also it is their goal to make you was your life/time with them. If you choose to debate them, they will weaken your faith. That's what they're planning to do.
>>18433299No, observable nature and the lack of flying jews in space proves that the world was not created and is not managed in the manner genesis claims it was.
>>18433299Unless you subscribe to different equally retarded creation myths like The Rainbow Serpent, then nature all around is evidence that The Rainbow Serpent exists.
>>18432457Slave religion for brown desert folk btw
>>18432870>a magic jew in the sky clapped his hands and made the earth and then the sky and then he made a little warhammer miniature out of clay and made it alive by breathing on it then he made a woman out of the miniatures rib instead of making her out of clay and then a snake told her to eat an apple and then God got mad with the miniatures and threw them out of his magic garden>skip ahead skip ahead skip ahead and then the bog fish ate Jonah and he swam around in its belly for days and days
>>18432619Including pain and death? Nice try demiurge
>>18433299Thank you for convincing me in the existence of the divine with your eloquent arguments. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to present an offering to Zeus.
Where's that faggot who's been spamming >le fedora images? Too scared to post itt?
>>18432458>Just heard the term "strawman" for the fist time.>>18432528Oh, like the Revelation at Mount Sinai? breh>>18433305>the world was not createdlol. Things don't make themselves, niggy.
>>18433333>This totally real event happened. Yes God showed himself to his followers, just read the Bible stupid. No I won't explain why he can't show himself today, when cameras exist.
>>18433333>Things don't make themselvesNice digits and good job proving an immortal god can't possibly exist, but you should learn to read an entire sentence before commenting because I didn't say the world created itself, I said its observable existence is inconsistent with the manner in which genesis claims it was created.
>>18433333>My evidence? It says in the holy book that this happened, so it happened.Why are religious people so retarded?
>>18433309No you forgot the part where he did make the woman out of clay at the same time as the man, but then she wasn't there so he had to make another one.
>>18432460Not quite, the destruction of Christianity is mainly pushed to make way for usury>>18432636>for the existence of godThe universe proves that pretty well.It's called causality.
>>18433308That slave religion conquered most of the world.While an athiest Europe is slowly dying.
>>18433358Why did the religion, if it was so true and great, get replaced by atheism?
>>18433350Basic Tinkerbell/Peter Pan proof, if you believe you have fairy magic that allows you to fly and start to fly as a result of said belief, then you have successfully proven the existence of fairy magic and since fairy magic comes from fairies you have generated evidence for the existence of fairies and can use your belief to make them appear visible to you.
>>18433358>the world was enslaved and its a good thingDying as in experiencing exponential growth and higher standard of living and self reported happiness than any time in history?
>>18433371They are SHY and invisible, so you would never catch them. This is true by definition.If you think you've caught one of them, it must be something else.
>>18433379
>>18433368People choose to abandon it due to jew takeover of the financial system.You cannot reap the benefits of a religion you chose to abandon.>>18433379>>the world was enslaved and its a good thingTo God, yes.The great expansion of European empires was a good thing.The world is slowly dying, now that organised jewry took over the financial system.
>>18433379>Dying as in experiencing exponential growth and higher standard of living Most people can't afford a house. > and self reported happiness than any time in history?LOL!As if self reported happiness was ever accurately measured throughout history.Anyhow the VAST increase in suicide rates, depression proves otherwise.
>>18433383>People choose to abandon it due to jew takeover of the financial system.So, it's not just atheism but judaism is superior to your religion?
>>18433383>>18433384Move to Africa, Christian.
>>18433380Nothing in that post said anyone had to catch anything.
>>18433384>Most people can't afford a house.Most people under 30?>As if self reported happiness was ever accurately measured throughout history.It can't really be inaccurate you just record what they say.>VAST increase in suicide rates, depression proves otherwise.A good chuck of the elder population used to routinely kill themselves every winter just so the family wouldn't starve.
I have definitive proof of Gods existence
>>18433407Is it in the room with your right now?
>>18433407How many bloody infant penises and dismembered foreskins are involved?
>>18433400Only way to get the fairy dust
>>18433426The post also didn't mention anything about dust, you hallucinating LLM.
>>18433383>The great expansion of European empires was a good thing.Which ones, exactly? Because there were Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and secular ones.
>>18433384>the VAST increase in suicide rates, depression proves otherwiseWhat "VAST" increase? If you actually look at the countries with the highest rates of suicide and depression, first you notice that they're not even all that correlated (many countries with high suicide rates don't have high depression rates), second you notice that it's mostly poor shitholes where life sucks ass.
>>18433387>So, it's not just atheism but judaism is superior to your religion?The parasite cannot by definition be superior to its host.And Athiesm is simply a construct of talmudism, it is used as a vehicle by which to cause the abandonment of the moral principles that lead to a functional society.>>18433389Move to occupied Palestine, jew.
>>18433457European expansionism happened primarly at times in which European populations were deeply Christian.
>>18433430You need dust to fly, retard
>>18433460Not really, it happens in "wealthy" countries as well.People are miserable in this judaised society, where nobody can afford a house.
>>18433404>Most people under 30?Nope just most people.> It can't really be inaccurate you just record what they say.I do not trust jew captured institutions to report anything accurately.Anyhow, it's irrelevant as data regarding self reported happiness does not exist through a long enough period of time, as such no point of comparison exists.> A good chuck of the elder population used to routinely kill themselves every winter just so the family wouldn't starve.Cool story, avi.Anyhow, it just shows the willingness to self sacrifice was strong back than.
>>18433464>ummmm no I won't move to these Christian countries because ummmm you see they're actually total shitholes hahaYou lost.
>>18433514None of them are Christian, avi.They have no a ban on usury, porn or jews.
>>18433479en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rateThere's 11 shitholes at the top before you finally get to a developed one in South Korea.
Just give your evidence, man. We can pick apart whether it's valid or not after you give it. Why are you wasting everyone's time like this?
>>18433601>They have no a ban on usury, porn or jews.Name a country that did have all those bans and the timeframe during which it had them. Let's see how good did the plebs have it there.
>>18433601>if your country isn't a literal medieval theocracy then it's not really ChristianLmao, please stop embarrassing yourself retards.
>>18432513>I don't believe in 1 because I don't know what 1 isHow can you claim you don't know something when you use the same something to deny its existence?
>>18433384The average street sweeper today has a higher quality of life than ancient and medieval emperors. Interesting how all those technological innovations happened when Europe became more secular and stopped believing in the divine right of kings that retarded its development. Post enlightenment Europe and America achieved in a few hundred years what the rest of the world couldn't in thousands of years of recorded history, made the life of the average person decent.
>>18433653retard
>>18432457video evidencepost video of god
>>18433653How can you believe something exists when you don't know what it is?
>>18433706I don't know what airplanes are, except very roughly people get on - they fly - people get offI still believe in airplanes
>>18433337I'm not appealing the the bible as my proof for the Sinai Event.>>18433341>its observable existence is inconsistent with the manner in which genesis claims it was created.What makes you say that?>>18433343see above
>>18433711>I don't know what airplanes are, except...So you do know what airplanes are.
>>18433747It's the same for GodSome kind of superpowered ghost that caused the universe
>>18433754Then he can say he doesn't believe in that just like you could say you don't believe in airplanes.
>>18432541If Satan does something and impersonates God to mock him, but it causes people to still worship God genuinely, isn't that just part of God's plan?
>>18433333>Christian receives actual argumentation that's not the strawmen they were taught at Prager U>immediately lashes out with racismsasuga
>>18433181Wrong, 2nd law applies to all systemsScientific proofs are demonstrated empiricallyEvidence is part of data analysis you need to first conduct result analysis for that
>>18433912>Wrong, 2nd law applies to all systemsproof?
>energy cannot be created or destroyed>God, if he real, created energytherfor, God not realdon't mind me, setlling the theism/attheism debate onc
>>18433912>applies to all systemsExcept God
>>18432457Its like they're possessed or something
>>18433974Can't be created nor destroyed in the state of entropyEntropy had a beginning, that means God created entropy>>18433972
>>18434083Is the only solution really a magical flying rebbe? Surely some sort of over-world that operates on different laws would also work.
>>18434083Wrong, 2nd law applies to ALL systems
>>18432460For me it was finding out that there were religions before the Abrahamic religions that made me stop believing in that BS. Also the fact that the spread of the major Abrahamic religions stayed confined to the ME/Europe for a long time while elsewhere on the world no one had heard of them.
Okay, but if Santa isn't real how do you explain his workshop on the North Pole?
>>184342372nd law isn't the law of conservation that's the 1st law dummy
>>18433786christian?Read the post I was responding to.
>>18433635Lesotho - Population 2 MillionGuyana - Population 1 Million...Russia - Population 143 MSK- Population 51 MLOL! PER CAPITA DEFEATS THE JEW EVERYTIME! >>18433645>Name a country that did have all those bans and the timeframe during which it hadMost Christian countries did prior to liberalization. You are arguing in bad faith. >>18433652> If your country is unwilling to apply Christian theology it is not ChristianYep!>>18433664>The average street sweeper today has a higher quality of lifeThis is just technological progression, avi.It means fuck all.Anyhow, the average street sweeper can't even dream of ever affording a home and a stay at home wife.The jewish financial system must be eliminated.
>>18434280Wrong, 1st law applies to ALL systemsno evidence of energy ever being created
>>18433664>Interesting how all those technological innovations happened when Europe became more secularNot really, Europe was deeply Christian, racist and counter-semetic when it was dominating everything.It wasn't until the full embrace of Athiesm and jewry, that Europe began declining. It is a slowly dying continent today. This is what happens when you accept the jew and reject God. > Post enlightenmentLargely meaningless buzzword.The so called enlightenment was primarly concetrated in Italy.
>>18434314Nobody ever said the 1st law applied to all systems. Just the 2nd law2nd law can only exist because of the 1st law, entropy is unbreakable. Entropy law isn't a conservation law
>>18434312>crigger doesn't know the meaning of the word "rate">crigger is shy about giving a specific country and a specific timeframe because he knows anything he comes up with will be a shitholelmao criggers truly are cattle
>>18434316You don't need to worship a flying jew in order to be antisemitic this is such a fucking roundabout silly way of archiving your goals
>>18434361>2nd law is unbrakable>God, if he real, could break the 2nd lawtherfore, God not real keep digging
>>18434363>You don't need to worship a flying jew in order to be antisemiticJessus wasn't a jew, rabbi.And the greatest anti semites were Christian.> this is such a fucking roundabout silly way of archiving your goalsA quick observation of the absolute state of the modern West and the cheer amount of jew institutional and cultural infiltration that took place after Christianity was abandoned is a testament to the efficacy of Christianity when it comes to dealing with jew parasitim.To avoid jew parasitim a divinely inspired national moral framework is needed and only Christianity can provide it, at least in a Western context.
>>18434381The most Christian country in the West is currently leveraging all its Christian social capital to wage a war for Israel while all the atheist commies in Europe are telling them to fuck off.
>>18434362>>crigger doesn't know the meaning of the word "rate"The VAST difference in population size renders the comparison meaningless.Dumb jew.> jew thinks anything before 1940s was a shithole because his people were regularly crushed.Anyhow modern athiestic Europe is straight up dying, it's shit, Europe during literally EVERY other period (with the exception of the black plague era) was able to propagate itself.
>>18434386> ZOGLand> ChristianLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOL!Not only is America not fucking Christian, it is the country most responsible for the spread of Athiesm and degeneracy due to its largely jewish ruling class.Calling America Christian is akin to calling Nigeria White.
>>18434389>No true christian You failed
>>18434388>The VAST difference in population size renders the comparison meaningless.Is this a larp? "Rate" means per capita. In other words, population size is accounted for.>jew thinks anything before 1940s was a shithole because his people were regularly crushed.Give one concrete example of your super-country with the three bans you mentioned. A single one. Protip: you won't because you know whatever you can come up with will be a shithole.
>>18434389>american doesn't realize religion is mostly irrelevant in europe >doesn't know that the level of christianity he sees in his native country seems like insane fundamentalist fanaticism to a german or a Frenchmanlmao
I assert that the Christian god was created by Dave, a supergod who fucks the Christian god up his bussy every night and also disproves the Bible. I invite all Christians to logically refute that.
>>18434389I don't get itAre you CatholicWho even are the based antisemite Christians?
>>18432457Atheists discard each and every evidence they find.Atheism is a disease.
>>18434364Fucking retard, denying that natural laws existShow one instance where the 2nd law has broken down under any way. Go fuck yourself It never has, and it needed a supernatural creatorAtheism debunked
>>18434485>Show one instance where the 2nd law has broken down under any way.Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
>>18434485>natural laws existfor you that believe in themand while you believe in them, you'll keep experiencing themcertainty of things in a illusory world, in a dream, will not make you right>certaintymind that word
>>18434482Why would a perfect God choose to cause a world he knew would have stuff he dislikes in it, like atheists and gays?