is there any documented cases of left-wing misogyny (real left, labor/Marxist left not social liberalism) in history?not a foid, btw, just asking
>>18434929It's not ideologically misogynistic, but it tends to play itself out anyways in a social context. Remember in Forrest Gump when Forrest's gf is with a leftist guy and he slaps the shit out her? That kind of authoritarian leftist politics tends to do that, I think. BTW there's some journalism and history that suggests leftists being impressed by that macho stuff made them open to infiltration by the police.It makes sense if you think about it. Like you're a cop. You want to infiltrate the leftists. Arcane theory might not be your strong suit, but if the values being emphasized are about being hard and militant, you can play that role pretty easily, and get people to do things as well because you can call them a faggot or a pussy if they won't do the thing which will send them to prison. People think this gooey woke stuff is a psyop but the feds and police can really do a number on the left by encouraging this whole I'm a hardass tankie guy.
>>18434953oh yeah I remember I was 12 when that movie came out. judging my OP's pic, like for example, is there examples where anti-Thatcher Irish Republican Marxists had pamphlets calling her a whore or anything? I know Marx himself didn't tolerate feminists in the International Workingman's Club.
>>18434929They reason that they have it coming.>you chose the side that treats women like pieces of meat! then you deserve me treating you like a piece of meat!They see it as punitive for not being with the good guys.
>>18434980>> I was 12 when that movie came out.You make me feel so young. How did you even find your way to a computer?
>>18435019I dunno, you tell me. I'm getting a new one from a friend for my birthday. 100TB hard drive i think.
>>18434980>anti-Thatcher Irish Republican Marxists had pamphlets calling her a whore or anythingNot that I know of.>I know Marx himself didn't tolerate feminists in the International Workingman's Club.Honestly I think Marx was kind of retarded and didn't understand America. There was a split between the Americans and German immigrants in the U.S. branch, with the Germans (and Marx backing them) kicking out the "Yankees" to follow a very strict European line but that didn't gain much support. One of the Yankees was Victoria Woodhull who was a feminist. Look up Frederic Sorge who was Marx's guy in America.
>>18434929Ruined the UK award
>>18435546You lefties never seem to grasp the dire situation she inherited in 1979. In fact, the previous Labour government were already beginning to implement austerity that was basically just as harsh as Thatcher's since 1978, and they were being called traitors by Labour's tankie wing because of it. Post-war managerialism, state subsidy, and 'picking winners' had run its course by about 1960, the twenty extra years it was allowed to limp along for.
>>18435674*I mean let alone the twenty extra years etc etc
>>18435674By the time the West German economy got on its feet, the UK was still handing out rations. Their post-war situation is why they worship foodbanks and "our NHS" to this day.
>>18435674Is UK better or worse now after thatcher? How’s the knife crime in London? How’s the social services? Crumbling? How’s the economy? How’s immigration situation? Oh? It’s all shit? Seems like she did ruin it then and you are a coping faggot
>>18434929Fidel Castro fucked thousands of women, then he called them petty bourgeois when they asked for alimony for the kids
>>18435685>Is UK better or worse now after thatcher?No you fucking retard, the question is whether it was better in 1990 than it was in 1979, in which case the answer is a resounding and uncomplicated 'yes' unless you lived on the Clyde, in Wales, or in a Lancashire mill town. It has been thirty-six years since Margaret Thatcher left office, it is possible to blame other people for things happening in the year of our Lord 2026.
Mao said "women hold up half the sky" and freed women from their traditional role by having them do the same work as men under collectivization. Under Mao the CCP had many women in high positions in the party. After Mao died his wife was arrested and Chinese media attacked with her every generic misogynistic insult imaginable. Women's participation in the work force dropped tremendously and no woman has had a high ranking party job in 50 years. Many Chinese believe that part of the failure of the Mao years was that women were given roles in society that they should not have been.
>>18436387Was that Deng's doing?
>>18436397Jiang Qing was arrested by Mao's successor Hua Guofeng. Decollectivization was a process that came both from the bottom up as poor harvest in 1975 and 1976 led peasants to risk breaking the law to increase production and from the top down as party members like Deng Xiaoping, Hu Yaobang, Wan Li, and Zhao Ziyang encouraged these developments. I'm not aware of any direct comments or policies from the party conflicting with Mao's feminist ideas, but as I said Jiang Qing was accused of being a whore and an old hag and everything in between during the lead up to her trial.
>>18434953>OP asks for documented cases of left-wing misogyny.>Cites Forrest Gump as evidence for such.Does /his/ really?
>>18436405Why did they imprison her in the first place? Do the Chinese simply consider history something to be forgotten?
>>18436416Jiang Qing was part of the Gang of Four who were the left wing of the CCP and who organized and carried out most of the Cultural Revolution. Among Jiang Qing's crimes was imprisoning, torturing, and murdering Zhou Enlai's daughter. When Mao died he left power in the party split between a centrist chairman and the left wing Gang of Four. Hua Guofeng, the chairman, arrested the Gang of Four as essentially a coup to take control of the party.
>>18436421She mostly used the Cultural Revolution as a means to beat up her old enemies from her youthful acting days in Shanghai.>be Ching Wing whatever>make an insulting remark about Jiang Qing's hairstyle or acting skills back in 1936>suddenly it's 1966 and find yourself declared a counterrevolutionary Khrushchevite revisionist and banished to the countryside to clean latrines on a collective farm
>>18436421Wow that sounds mental
>>18435517That sounds divisive but I expect nothing less from Orthodox Marxists
>>18436429>>18436431Between 1966-1976 two thirds of the party were purged to some extent ranging from being dragged through the streets and beaten by crowds of radicals or being imprisoned and left to die. Jiang Qing was extremely unpopular and once Mao died she no longer had any cover. She became a scapegoat for all of the suffering of the past decade, and she mostly deserved it.
>>18436429Lol, thats even more mental
>>18436442>Lol, thats even more mentalThat's just called being a woman.
>>18436446Yeah, I know. I've dated seven of them and was engaged to two.
>>18436290> No you fucking retard, the question is whether it was better in 1990 than it was in 1979,All her important policies that defined her are still in place. What you are seeing now is the final consequences of sending all the jobs overseas and centralizing economic development around London. Sorry thatchertroon
>>18436471What was the alternative economic plan for the UK? Place was fucked either way. Thatcher did a reasonable job of transitioning from empire to irrelevant shithole.
>>18435685>How’s immigration situation?That was exarcebated by Blair thoughbeit
>>18434929She had drip fr fr
>>18436477>What was the alternative economic plan for the UK?An real economy that isn't based on bullshit and financial services?
>>18434929Misogyny is not a real ideology outside of retards on incel forums. Proudhon was a sexist.
>>18436415Forrest Gump is a true story
>>18437500Nobody said it's an ideology retard
>>18437527Then what is it? Is the OP question if there have been individual leftists who have shit on women? Yeah, almost all of them. South Korea is more feminist than North. Taiwan moreso than China, etc. There's never been a socialist state led by a woman.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/
>>18437500I'm not even an incel but you sound kind of gay.
