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>pray
>God fucking kills you
Defend this
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>>18435113
Go ask your priest.
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>>18435113
>Dear Lord, please I long to be with you and sleep on Jesus broad chest, please call me home, I dont care if my family has to suffer I want to be with you NOW
>It Is Done.

I see no problem here?
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>>18435113
George Carlin can explain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlzbFxYy08c
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Reminder that Jesus himself prayed to God that he could avoid dying on the cross. Prayer is not some sort of magical protection or prosperity cheat code, you pray for your soul and for salvation of others. Not for anything in this life.
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I remember that one video, where a white woman went to the church once and prayed and the camera recorded her getting killed by a feral nigger during that.
I believe in supernatural, so I think maybe there is demonic and malicious in here too, not just niggers nigging.
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>>18435149
I'm not even a Christian but please kill yourself.
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>>18435155
so it's basically a declaration of intent that God wants you to make?
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>>18435161
There is...
https://youtu.be/VJ9RmuY8A60?si=anStnRzEceGd7HLU
Take your time, baby, we are waiting.
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>>18435161
were you fapping when you imagined this?
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>>18435174
>There is something demonic and malicous in here too
I meant possession, niggers could be literally possessed.
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>>18435175
I didn't imagine it, there's a video somewhere.
Nigger came to the church and killed the poor old woman.
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>>18435177
is the video in your mind, while fapping?
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>>18435186
Why do you imagine me fapping, are you gay?
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>>18435149
George Carlin would defend transing children today
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>>18435176
Talking these matters with those who havent seen this shit at work is useless, as they will claim "mental Illness".
There's parasites (spiritual) that alter your behaviour.
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>>18435113
c*tholics pray idols, not God.
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>>18435113
Death is inevitable, heaven is not guaranteed. Anyone who is now dead would choose a young death and heaven over old age and hell. Atheists are so stupid, it's hilarious.
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>>18435199
>The eternal pachinko
>Souls are dropped from high above
>They crash against lifes obstacles
>And go into the pit
I really am digging religion rn
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>>18435188
I tried to find the video, I couldnt find it anywhere, so I got pissed and assumed it must have been some fap fantasy of yours
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>>18435113
Obviously to the wrong god.
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>>18435113
He was worshipping a piece of bread so he was an idolater
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>>18435113
>Dying in your sleep
Literally the best way to go.
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>>18435300
Dying in your sleep in your old age would be better, I would presume.
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>>18435304
>reach heaven 60 years early
How is this bad for a devout christian?
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>>18435304
You presume wrong
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>>18435194
and you wouldn't?
here is my future wife Kai Schreiber
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>>18435198
He was literally praying to some bread before this
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>>18435201
Wow you're cool and different, haven't heard that before.
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>>18435113
>pray
>go to Heaven forever
Problem?
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>>18435149
I'm so glad Carlin called out those White Christian bankers. It needed to be said
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>>18435155
>Jesus prayed to himself
Still makes no sense
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Vax status?
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>>18435113
>Pray to an idol (bread)
>The demiurge kills you because he is jealous
Based
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>>18435113
We don't know what he did during the 22 hours a day he wasn't praying. It might have been bad.
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>>18435791
I hope that young boy gets better and can run around with his friends again
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>>18435113
Read the book of Job retard.
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>>18435113
No, no, I'm actually with foreskin demon here. He saved him from the pain of living past the early 20s. Its all downhill from there.
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>>18435155
>yo self its me you, im going to die and go to heaven, this is a huge price to pay so guess lets call it even on that sin thing lol
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>>18435113
>Catholic
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pr*testants itt believe in such a weak and pathetic God that He can't even manifest through a piece of bread.
>>18435113
God isn't a genie so He doesn't grant every wish we ask of Him and you don't even know what this guy was praying for. Jesus himself was murdered when he was 33, and almost all of the apostles met an early end to their lives so living long was never a christian tradition and I guarantee you most don't care, sanctity is the aim of our lives not living a long time.
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>>18436216
>Why yes, I do literally worship a piece of bread as my god señor
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>>18436222
>I HAVE to let everyone know I can't grasp abstract concepts such as miracles, transubstantiation and Real Presence because I need everyone to know I'm low IQ.
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>>18435919
He was probably struggling with masturbation and porn.
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>>18436231
>if you don’t worship wonderbread you’re low IQ o algo
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>>18436231
>transubstantiation
This concept doesn't even make sense. I don't mean that in the way that it's hard to comprehend. I mean by basic definition of the terms involved it is devoid of meaning.

What changes? The "substance".
What is "substance"? That thing that changes during transubstantiation.
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>>18436248
iirc it depends on the definition you might be using but I think the Church used Aristotle's, meaning that (if I'm not mistaken) the substance is what a thing is in essence, then it's easier to understand.
What changes is the essence, while the physical properties remain the same, the Eucharist becomes Christ while the physical properties (smell, taste, appearance) remain the same.
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>>18435155
The bailey: "Whatever you ask for in prayer with faith, you will receive.”
The motte: this.
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>>18436265
What changes? The "substance".
What is "substance"? The "essence".
What is "essence'? thing that changes during transubstantiation.
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>>18436293
Anon have you ever heard of a dictionary?
es-sence
1 the most basic and important quality of something
from Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English.
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>>18436231
>abstract concepts such as miracles, transubstantiation and Real Presence
but the point is that there's nothing abstract about those
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>>18436305
>miracles
miracles are different for everyone, some will say they are like magic or impossible feats made possible, other will say that certain inventions like modern medicine or space flight are miracles and some will even say that life itself and just being alive is a miracle on its own. Everyone will give you a different answer, so it is abstract, because the answer depends on the perspective of who you're asking.
>transubstantiation
This is considered a miracle, see miracles.
>Real Presence
Different denominations have different beliefs and understandings as to how this happens. Even if that wasn't the case we don't literally see Christ physically manifesting in front of us and descending from the heavens, at least most of us don't, so it is an abstract concept because it isn't something that can be reliably verified in the physical world, even though Catholics believe Jesus is truly there showing someone a consecrated Eucharist and telling them that Christ is right there because of a miracle isn't good enough for some people so we ended up with evangelicals saying that the Eucharist is just symbolic or protestants saying that Jesus is only there spiritually, making it an abstract concept.
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>>18435113
John Calvin solved this
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>>18436265
Except for all those times that Catholics point to about the bread becoming human flesh for real!!!!! (as if becoming actual cannibals is a good thing)
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>>18436339
That's a different, subsequent miracle not considered transubstantiation according to Thomas Aquinas. Neither does the Eucharist turn to flesh and blood inside of our bodies, that's just a common misconception made by non-believers.
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>>18435113
Gaytheists do realise that the purpose of this life is salvation right? If you pass away when you're closest to God you have the highest chance of going to heaven. You people are so stupid it's hilarious.
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>>18436298
What changes? The "substance".
What is "substance"? The "essence".
What is "essence'? The thing that changes during transubstantiation.

What changes during transubstantiation? The most basic and important quality of the bread.

What is most basic and important quality of the bread? Its essence.

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Around and around in circles never actually giving anything meaning. It is impossible to believe or disbelieve in transubstantiation because transubstantiation is so circular that it does not even manage to make a claim. It's like believing or disbelieving in the liar paradox.
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>>18436612
Read Aristotle
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>>18437024
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if youre a christcuck. dont pray to jesus kids. hahahaha
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>>18436612
There are two worlds
One were nominalism is true, and one were there's essence and shit

You find yourself in one of those worlds.
How do you go about figuring out which one you're in?
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O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
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>>18437024
Can you provide me with a specific quote or section you feel to be relevant?

>>18437309
I don't think the notion has meaning so I don't think this is a meaningful question. It's like asking "There are two worlds. One where 'This sentence is false.' is true, and one where 'This sentence is false.' is false. How do you go about figuring out which one you're in?"

It strings words together, but they fail to actually refer to anything.
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>>18437309
But seriously, how do essence enjoyers answer this?



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