...is it a reasonable interpretation of the evidence? What're the main arguments for and against it?
>>18436319>i speak the language descended from the destroyers of RomeHow do I fucking cope
>>18436349we got a goth around here
>>18436319The whole of their maritime vocabulary belongs to I1 y-dna forefathers: sea, ship, sail. The IE didn't have any of these initially.
>>18436349You could have laughed at the tax cattle and their immense suffering brought on by Rome at one point. But then you got soft and civilized. You're actually a beaner third worlder IRL, but this applies to you as well.
>>18436391Something surprising to me is pic rel. Rather than a Scandinavian origin, two pre-I1 samples tested for a coming preprint seem to have a Mediterranean origin. This is from the Wartberg Culture and most of the haplogroups are typical, R1b already and some I2, very high WHG ancestry. The people were already becoming Indo-European. These two I1 fellows are an outlier in more ways than one though. They shared the high Villabruna ancestry but aDNA painted a different picture than the others. Almost all of them before the late neolithic/bronze age seem to show affinities for groups in and much further south of the Paris basin. All the Mesolithic samples except two I've seen so far have more Basque-like ancestry than Baltic. Who knows where this tradition among them began of moving up and down the rivers and coasts. If those aren't IE words related to sailing, they could come from literally any pre-IE people. This haplogroup was obscure at one point. So rather than a land-based migration, I'm wondering if this lineage moved around waterways this entire time and people have been looking in all the wrong places for a farmer or a hunter gatherer in the more traditional sense. Most of the substrate talk seems silly. Germanic is comparatively smaller than say Greek. But if the Germanic substrate exists and it came from the I1 men, maybe we should be looking for similarities to SW European pre-IE languages rather than elsewhere.
>>18436398she cute
>>18436391Interesting, how do we know they're not Indo-European though? It seems like there are pretty well accepted PIE roots for those words
>>18436319there aren't many arguments for it at all.
>>18436836Okay, thanks for your input...
