Serious question. There are a ton of atheists out there assuming that love is real in their everyday lives, but their beliefs must presuppose that love is just a survival mechanism from when we were apes.
>>18437473I'm religious and I don't believe in love. Or at least I know women don't want it.
>>18437473>love is just a survival mechanism from when we were apeshow does that imply love is not real, you dumb baboon
>>18437473Why are religious people always asking stupid questions?
>>18437479The studies have shown that the love feeling in your brain fades after four years. >>18437482I'm an atheist.
>>18437484>I'm an atheist.Press X to doubt
>>18437473Why would I not believe that oxytocin and vasopressin exist? Love is a tangible physical object that can be directly observed in a lab.
>>18437484>love often fades therefore love doesn't existAh I see. Just like how food doesn't exist because it's gone after you eat it. Right, makes sense.
>>18437489I am an atheist, but I'm also critical of atheists. There's this breed of liberal atheist who says "There's no god, but don't worry, nature has it all figured out." and I think that's an equally unsatisfactory answer. >>18437491>>18437493I guess what I meant is in the eternal, poetic sense where you've found a soulmate. My view of love is actually the opposite of everyone else's. Most people think that the gooey love you felt when you were a teenager is fake love, but the couple who have been married for 80 years is real love. I believe that the gooey teenage love you feel is as real as it ever gets and the couple that's been married for 80 years are just habituated to each other and have no out.
>>18437497What does any of this have to do with atheism, mong? Love is an observable chemical in the brain. It exists. Sometimes it fades. That's objective reality and has nothing to do with religion or your personal interpretation of it.
>>18437503Religion treats love as if it's something sacred and atheists believe that there's "Someone out there for everyone" and that they love their significant other. If the atheist was honest with him or herself, they would acknowledge that the feeling they feel for their significant other is just a survival mechanism. The atheist also has to admit that women care about looks, money and status and that it has nothing to do with personality. Atheists should admit there's nothing sacred about marriage or what we call love.
>>18437508The stereotypical reddit atheist does in fact think/say retarded, autistic stuff like that, which is a big reason why women don't like them. Saying "I love you" sounds a lot better than "You activate chemicals in my brain that bond me to you". They mean the same thing, but you don't sound like a pedantic faggot redditor with the former.
>>18437508Feel free to send your suggestions to the atheist council president and they can consider adding it to the official atheist dogma.
>>18437523Fair point. Reddit atheists shouldn't be so hostile to the manosphere though because it's just dissecting the truth about mating psychology. Any atheist who's being honest with themselves will admit LMS is real, hypergamy is real, etc. I did just read a British article (Which are usually notoriously liberal) talking about how the Thoreau documentary was shallow because it didn't admit the manosphere is addressing serious issues. So maybe we're turning a corner.
>>18437497>the eternal, poetic sense where you've found a soulmateHow many people, atheist or otherwise, believe in this? I feel like hardly anyone actually believes in this except as an unattainable ideal for a relationship, but maybe I'm out of touch.I was going to say Christians shouldn't believe in this either, given what Jesus says in Mark 12:25 about how in the resurrection people will be like the angels, so there will be no more marriage. But then I remembered the beginning of Mark 10 where Jesus establishes the rule absolutely forbidding divorce, saying, "So they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate." And now I feel like these two ideas are at odds, unless maybe you bring in the idea that the resurrection body is a different body from the material body, so the flesh that is joined together never has to be separated. Instead, it's left behind. Having both of these rules could be a clever way of implying this without saying it directly, though I guess orthodox Christians will just say that God is the one who joins people together in marriage, so he can separate them in the resurrection as well if he likes.
>atheists discussing about love
>OP is a blackpilled incel who tries to push redpill talking points but he insists on tying it to atheismWhat is it specifically about atheism that makes it the bogeyman that every retarded tradcath/reactionary/whatever person want to bundle it up with their pet peeve issue?
>>18437575I'm an atheist myself. Don't know how many times I have to say that. I am blackpilled though.
>>18437586You don't come off as credible because you do this retarded thing that so many posters here do, namely you attach atheism to whatever social or political issue bothers you the most when there's no real connection. The feeling of being in love being a chemical reaction in your brain doesn't make it any less real, literally all your feelings are chemical reactions or electrical impulses in your brain.
>>18437575Life is easier when you bundle everyone you dislike for whatever reason into one hivemind and treat them as such.
>>18437508>the feeling they feel for their significant other is just a survival mechanismLargely yes, that’s how evolution works, it produces organism which do things that keep them alive. >The atheist also has to admit that women care about looks, money and statusWell if she didn’t she’d be a whore who bangs Mario behind the burger king. Women I get with have standards, yes. >has nothing to do with personalityThat doesn’t follow at all. Personality is interwoven with success, status, etc, and people generally want to actually get along with their significant other.
God is said to be love. As in literally love itself. So atheists claiming that love is just a bunch of chemicals in your brain makes a lot of sense.
>>18437667God is supposed to be agape love, not romantic love with "soulmates" which is what this thread seems to be about. Romantic love is definitely well-described as brain chemicals evolved to aid reproduction. Agape love, although there's some variation in how it's used, seems to be a purer benevolence, maybe like the Buddhist lovingkindness. Although it's conceptually simpler, I think neurologically it would have to be more complicated, unless there's a brain chemical that invokes pure universally-applied self-sacrificial altruism I'm not aware of.
>>18437473>assuming that love is real in their everyday livesIt is. Neuromodulators do not vanish, just because you ain't seeing them, you know?
>>18437473You don’t need religion to find beauty in this wonderful world
>>18437473>There are a ton of atheists in my headFtfy
>>18437497>>18437523>>18437538You're not even religious or atheist. You're just another chud who ran out of talking point and uses theism/atheism as a proxy for muh libs and muh right. Kill yourself satanist you will never know God's grace.
>>18437473>why would an atheist believe in directly-experienced emotionWhy would an atheist believe in the orgasm? Why would an atheist believe that fire burns? This is ridiculous >>18437479
>>18437508>If the atheist was honest with him or herself, they would acknowledge that the feeling they feel for their significant other is just a survival mechanism.I do "admit" that though? Really don't see the issue here. Feeling love does not require belief in magical hocus pocus about it. This is like complaining about finding out how a magician's trick works.
>>18437473I mean when you grow up without a dad its hard not to see why
Why would they not? Atheists can believe in alll sorts of normative properties, both naturalist and non-naturalist ones. A theist just adds more steps connecting their view of a God, whatever model of it, to other facts. This actually can make some accounts of theism problematic because we have to explain why some people can't find love because we have to loop back to God. Non Theistic religions likewise have no problem justifying beliefs all sorts of things. Think Buddhist and Indigenous religions.
