What caste were White People (Germanics, Slavs) in the spanish system?
>>18439205they were probably banned, and rightfully sospain was a force of good in this world, not eviil
>>18439209the spanish genocided and mass raped natives, then stole their gold and silver to fight wars for italiansnot to mention all the slaves
>>18439205They were foreigners. So technically spealing they had no legal caste, but I guess if need be the authorities would treat him as a penninsular (which was the case with some of the irish), provided they were there legally (AKA on special licence working for the spanish government), if not they'd probably be deported. Foreigners generally had no rights in the colonies. And germans were a rare sight in the colonies. I don't think there even were slavs there.
>>18439215> mass rapedIs there reeeaallly evidence for this? Sex-skews in mixing can be explained by female hypergamy, and foreigners were actually somewhat integrated into some communities.
>>18439205>What caste were White People (Germanics, Slavs) in the spanish system?There was no caste system; it's a modern construct divorced from reality. Any historian not blinded by ideology knows this. And although a minority, there were also Germans among the conquerors (specially in Venezuela).>>18439302>> mass raped>Is there reeeaallly evidence for this?Nope. Mass raping and genocide is just black legend bullshit.
>>18439298Religion probably mattered more than anything. A Catholic German like a Bavarian would probably be a lot more welcome than a Reformed Dutchman
>>18439421The caste system did legally exist during the Bourbon period, the historical debate is whether this system was an effective reality or just a top-down legal construct imposed by the Bourbons. Race in Colonial Ibero-America is a rather complicated topic as I'm sure you know.Hell, race in Ibero-Americ ain general is a very complicated topic. And ironically, not one you'd want to speak of with racists.
>>18439445This is the only correct answer If a Dutch or a Russian in Hispanoamerica was protestant or Orthodox they probably was be treated like a Mestizo
>>18439445Obviously, protestants were kill on sight. But you needed special permission to be a foreigner in the kingdoms of the indies. Even Catalonians and Italians were relatively rare because they were technically outside their jurisdiction. In fact I don't even recall reading about a single German spanish government official, during the Habsburg or Bourbon periods. Although I haven't made a very deep reading of sources from and about the period, I still think it's worth mentioning.Excluding the Welser colony, which was an abortive venture that didn't go anywhere.
>>18439456They weren't allowed. They wouldn't be treated like anything, they'd be killed or deported.>>18439458Technically speaking, even as a Spaniard you had to sign up for the Indies, you couldn't just take a ship, iirc.
>>18439464>>18439458>>18439456>brown manlet revenge fantasiesinteresting
>>18439458>I don't even recall reading about a single German spanish government officialThere's a difference between "citizen living or trading in New Spain" and "government official of New Spain"
>>18439446>The caste system did legally exist during the Bourbon period.No way. It's another matter that Enlightenment ideas (which included scientific racism) began to permeate the minds of some (with the well-known results). But an institutionalized racial caste system never existed.
>>18439469Heresy was a crime in the Spanish empire at the time, and protestants were all considered to be heretics. What I am saying is not controversial at all. I'm sorry this upsets you. Maybe you should go back to reading about Hyperborean Hitler if sectarian conflicts among your beloved whites are too much.>>18439475I know. But I haven't spied many germans in those roles, either. But there probably were germans, I'm not denying that. I'm not saying there weren't. I just have seen many.
>>18439480you're not white paco
>>18439483I know. Does it bother you that orgasmically blond protestants with angelic blue eyes and succulent white skin were executed in Autos de Fe by their fellow huwhites? >>18439476But all those categories were written into law.
>>18439491white people had vastly superior colonies though, you're speaking their language in fact
>>18439494Hahahaha.
>retroactively declares the spanish and portuguese empires as evil >as well as the papist side of the 30 years war >and all the crusaderskek popecucked iberimoors and pacos
>>18439499Based quadroon peruvian Pope shitting on Aryan Achievements and encouraging mass migration.
>>18439205Germshits aren't white. Only slavs are white
>>18439507he's humiliated your side paco :)
>>18439510I'm not catholic though. I do human sacrifice, worshipping Jews is your thing.
>>18439205germanics are not and will never be White. they tried to genocide the actual White country which is the Soviet Union
>>18439512the conquistadors were moors and jewsmarshallah, sanchezstein
>>18439526Not the ones in Chile thoughie, those were pure Gothic Aryans, as taught by Mapuche Shaman MIguel Serrano. Which is why my wretched mestizo race can be redeemed by Hitler.As we all know Mary was a whore who got spitroasted by Pantera, Jesus was a homosexual and the only respectable person in all the gospels was Pilate. Did you know Jesus was White?
>>18439209Oh wow based. Putting northern barbarian snow apes in their place. Needs to be done again.
>>18439209>turn half a dozen unique cultures into backwards reggaeton shitholes>good
>>18439491>But all those categories were written into law.No. You will not find any source on that.>>18439656>>turn half a dozen unique cultures into backwards reggaeton shitholesReggaeton and the like is the consequence of liberalism and anglo influence... Nothing to do with Hispanic Heritage. Local cultures, traditions and languages were preserved (dictionaries and grammars of Nahuatl, Quechua or Guarani were written), but anything against God or natural law was, of course, forbidden. Christendom is not
>>18439666reggaeton is the ultimate expression of the iberian's inherently frivolous and gypsy-like nature
>>18439779>reggaeton is the ultimate expression of the iberian's inherently frivolous and gypsy-like natureThis is the ultimate expression of utter ignorance... Reggae and Hip Hop is anglo's fault. Reggaeton is anglos fault. Another cultural Trojan horse used to turn the people they want to exploit into degenerate human waste. There is nothing frivolous about traditional Hispanic culture; nor about flamenco, which is not an expression of Gypsy culture (they didn't arrive in Spain until 1425) as they and their sycophants claim, but rather traditional Andalusian music (which they shamelessly try to appropriate).
>>18440155insane thirdie copeit's your degenerate iberian trash turned up to 11
>>18439205I. «WHITE» IS A SOCIAL CATEGORY IN THE ANGLOSPHERE; NOWHERE ELSE.II. IN THE CATHOLIC EMPIRE, THERE WAS NO CASTE SYSTEM.
>>18440155Silence, gypsy
>>18439205Peninsulares. All European possessions counted, including Flanders.
>>18439209This Prussian Protestant was permitted entrance with Madrid's consent.
>>18440455Under special dispensation during the enlightenment. Which is fairly normative. Still a foreigner, though.
>>18439666Yes I have https://archivos.juridicas.unam.mx/www/bjv/libros/13/6041/10.pdf
>>18440658Shit I may be need to retract this.
>>18440666>Shit I may be need to retract this.Aren't you ashamed of trying to impersonate someone else?>>18440658>Yes I have https://archivos.juridicas.unam.mx/www/bjv/libros/13/6041/10.pdfNo, you don't... There (I'm referring to theReal Cédula, of course) it doesn't say what you think it says. We're talking about a class-based society, but qualities did not depend on race.
>>18440712No no, that's me. I'm currently reading through "La Trampa de las Castas" and I realized I made a pretty big mistake.
>>18439205None because usually Germanicucks and Slaves (slavs) were not interested in settling in Spanish colonies
>>18440748>No no, that's me. I'm currently reading through "La Trampa de las Castas" and I realized I made a pretty big mistake.Thank you for your honesty. Kind regards.
>>18440757you're not med sanchez you're a mestizo
>>18439205>>18439209Spain was very autistic over who they let in their colonies. They only send white families to the most dangerous frontier zones for example... And didn't let them own guns so they got constantly raided.
Spain's social system didn't have a hard race hierarchy at the beginning, but by the end of the Empire, they were getting there.>The first spanish constitution didn't automatically recognize free black christians as spanish citizens. This shit pissed off New Granadan elites who only got 3 representatives in the cortes.>Black people could literaly buy white privilege with "Gracias al sacar". It made criollos mad.>Every other week Madrid would ban some new afro dance that was getting popular among the whites.>Human Zoos in Madrid filled with Filipinos.>The plan to whiten Cuba. They gave all sort of benefits to white settlers while afro-cubans lingered in poverty.
>>18439298They brought in German miners to Venezuela in particular, through the Habsburg HRE connectionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein-Venedig
