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Christians will use every trick in the book to cope with OT nastiness, but the truth of the matter is this: whoever originally wrote this with his own two hands did not think this was evil because he was a nigga from 7th century BCE Middle East.
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You're an Atheist, so you'll never understand any Sacred Scripture.

Christians know that the Bible is not the Word of God, like the Quran and the Vedas. Christians know the Bible is the word of the Evangelists and the Prophets. Christians know that was is said about God in the Bible is the perception of some person about God. That's why God in the Old Testament appears to have human flaws.

God is perfect, It has no flaws. If someone portrays Him with flaws, a Christian know this person (Prophet, Evangelist) is not really talking about God.

This is what Atheists cannot comprehend, even if you explain this to them. They simply cannot reason. Why do you think they deny their own Creator?
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I think historians are too quick to dismiss the 2nd century gnostics, they were right about the demiurge.
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>>18441247
>Christians know that the Bible is not the Word of God
AI Overview
Yes, Catholicism teaches that the Bible is the inspired, inerrant Word of God. Catholics believe the Holy Spirit inspired human authors to write the Scriptures, which accurately communicate God's saving truth. However, Catholicism teaches that the Word of God is not limited to the Bible alone, but also includes Sacred Tradition, both interpreted by the Church's teaching office (Magisterium).
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>>18441247
People who have read the Bible know there's passages where God speaks. Either those passages are true or they're lies. If it's the latter, we should start thinking about what other shit in the Bible is just straight up lies.
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>>18441247
>Christians know that the Bible is not the Word of God, like the Quran and the Vedas.
Holy shit catholics have been on a roll lately.
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>>18440869
>Christians will use every trick in the book to cope with OT nastiness
They can speak for themselves. I worship God, not the Geneva convention.
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>>18441258
Catholics never use the word "inerrant". They use "infallible". Catholics are well aware of the Bible's internal contradictions and external mistakes. These are tagged as poetic license. What matters in Catholicism is the overall message, which (Catholics claim) leads to Christ.
Inerrancy is for demagogues and the retards falling for their bullshit.
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>>18441247
>Christians know that the Bible is not the Word of God, like the Quran and the Vedas.
lol
Why take anything written in the Bible seriously then, if it is all potentially bullshit
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>>18441259
ponder the fact (which it is) that the Bible has "passages where God speaks". that means the Bible's overall frame is where He does not speak. The Bible is not the Word of God; it *contains* the Word, but so might an utterance through one of His saints.
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>>18441289
Yes, the Catholic Church teaches that the Bible is inerrant, meaning it is free from error in all matters of faith and morals, and it teaches "solidly, faithfully, and without error" the truth intended by God for the sake of salvation.

Inspiration & Authorship: The Church teaches that Scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit and has God as its principal author, therefore it cannot contain error.
Scope of Inerrancy: The Church rejects limiting inerrancy solely to faith and morals, holding that the "whole" text is inspired.
The Second Vatican Council: The Council's document Dei Verbum confirms that Scripture teaches the truth needed for salvation without error.
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>>18441294
>it *contains* the Word
So everything in the Blue that's indicated to be God speaking is true and accurate? When he orders genocides and infanticides and shit?
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>catholics now claim the bible is not the word of god to own drumpf
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>>18441247
>Christians know that the Bible is not the Word of God
kek
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They deserved it
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>>18441258
>inspired
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>>18442646
Yes, as in directly inspired by influence of the Holy Spirit, making it the inerrant Word of God.
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>>18442646
Inspired is Latin for breathed into, the meaning of the word “inspired” in the theological context is not like when an artist or a meal is said to be inspired but that the book in question is the breath (that is, the speech) of God.
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>>18441289
You would’ve been burned at the stake in the middle ages for saying this
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>>18442655
We're better than those superstitious chuds now. We are based Catholics which means the Geneva convention is more important to us than the bible.
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>>18442649
>directly inspired
>>18442652
>breathed into

I and the father are one, and the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.
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Old Testament is based, true, and more relevant than ever. Only fake Christians say otherwise.
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>>18440869
>Christians will use every trick in the book to cope with OT nastiness, but the truth of the matter is this: whoever originally wrote this with his own two hands did not think this was evil
Jesus came to unite us all as humanity, for he doesn't see us as anything other than children of God. If anything, the bible talks about the rich and the poor, and about this the psalms say that the savior will care about the lives of those in need; thus he will save them from war and deception.

Jesus then says:
you heard them say: an eye for an eye
but i say: turn the other cheek

You heard them say: love your neighbor and hate your enemy
But i say: love your enemies

As for why this looks different to the god of the old testament (which you conveniently forget about things like the sabbath when commenting about (not only the year but the act of forgetting debts and freeing your equal)), he says this

>7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

>8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

>10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

>11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given

Men simply can't do what they should do, so they pervert the law to fit their needs.
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>>18440869
>destroying your enemies...... LE BAD!!
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>>18440869
Or it was just written post hoc and the writers were trying to justify why powerful societies completely disappear over time.
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>>18441247
>God is perfect, It has no flaws. If someone portrays Him with flaw
How is it not a flaw to be able to be depicted with flaws? Can a perfect flawless being really be completely incapable of protecting his own image against random teenagers and their adolescent insults?
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>>18440869
They deserved it. Who are you to think you are smarter than God?
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>>18440869
Because Christians have pretend time, they think it's from their god. If you press them on all the awful shit in the OT, they'll do apologetics about why it's actually fine.
Genocide.
Rape.
Child brides.
Slavery.
ETC
All you need to do, is show them the verses where it says that their god said to do it, and they'll say that it's fine for it to happen.
Only a small amount of people will realize that it's fucked, and actually deconstruct from the religion.



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