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What would it have been like?
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>>18441095
shit
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>>18441095
great
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>>18441095
>Greater Belgium
vgh
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>>18441095
Second Greater Moravian Empire
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>>18441095
the west would be nigger free and we would have a mars colony by now
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>>18441095
200 more years of civil war over land inheritance
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This is the contrafactual where Lend-Lease doesn't work.
I'm thinking 1950s USSR but shifted to Berlin.
early 1950s: Hitler strokes out
brief internal struggle between Himmler and Göring.
Later 1950s: Either Göring wins, or a military junta under Rommel and maybe even Dönitz emerges with similar policies.
Europe is under a sclerotic Soviet system where Germany pretends the emergency is over, but every other nation in it is effectively a puppet to varying degrees of pretence.
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>>18441095
Socially reactionary and totalitarian, economically actually better than the IRL warsaw pact. Technologically still behind the US or irl NATO. Everyone not a a german is a second class citizen (germanized nongermans), third class citizen (nongermanized nongermans) or slave (slavs). Noneuropeans and jews just flat out don't exist.
If the pro-birth policies work (I think they might, not certain though) and the eugenic policies work (I think they would) and everyone germanizes while german racialism mellows out, it might eventually be a pretty ok place to live for those still alive.
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>>18441095
What would postwar unoccupied Russia be like?
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>>18441651
If hitler imaginary scenario of defeating Soviets in 8 weeks happens, generalplan ost goes in, Slavs are genocided, Germany gains USSR resources and becomes world's superpower
If victory happens in 1942 or 1943 after heavy German loses then they establish puppet states in the east to extract resources but it ends up just being a drain on nazi economy, Germany bankrupts, USA launches Victory Plan and invades France with 10 million soldiers and overuns Germany with the help of nukes if the war goes into 1945
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>>18441095
>Cold war Struggle between USA/Britain/Canada/Australia and Common Wealth, against German-Italian and puppet states.
>Likely constant partisan attacks, costing German resources in the East, a constant state of militarisation.
>Second largest economy behind the United States, though most of its citizens, aside from Germans live in abject poverty.
>Hitler's successors begin to liberalise and things mellow out. Autocracy likely maintains, but concessions are made for stability.
>Germany really only expands and colonises Poland with German people. Most other Slavs remain relatively safe as Germany liberalises. Eastern territories eventually get good autonomy in order to mitigate losses caused by partisans.
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>>18441095
National Socialist revolution across the post-colonial world.
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>>18441687
yeah, America (and Churchill) resort to nukes. the Manhattan Project was sold to Jews as being ready to use against Germany.
Morgenthau Plan also happens in your event. Europe is depopulated. Germany is agrarian like Romania, with Pol Pot tier commies to enforce that.
Germany of course already knew about Morgenthau in 1944 which is why they fought as valiantly as they did at the Bulge. If the deal on the table was the deal they... ended up actually getting, of a reasonably prosperous Bonn-based BRD, they'd have surrendered much earlier.
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>>18441949
>hitler knew about the plan to destory german industry after the was so he waged the war till the end until their industry was destroyed anyway and ordered to destory the remaining german industry anyway in nero decree so he could save german industry as to defend aganist the plan that wasn't implemented anyway
posting on /his/ is degrading your mentally
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>>18441949
>yeah, America (and Churchill) resort to nukes
God i wish
>we are ze master rac...ACK *nuclear winter over berlin*
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>>18441949
Morgenthau plan was a historical and moral necessity, Germany and austria should've been depopulated, the teutons deported to america and the land given to slavs to settle, left bank of the Rhine to the french as a natural border between the two civilisations



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