If God is real, why are you on here? Shouldn't you be out in the real world feeding the poor or raising a family? You have zero excuses.
>>18441136>nooo, you don't get it, getting into slapfights in anime image boars is peak of christian vocation
>>18441136To help save lost souls
>>18441141You actually believe your saving someone posting here?Lmao.
>>18441145I know I have
>>18441136Jesus spent his time on Earth dwelling among the lowest of society. We are told to be more like Jesus, so here I am.
>if God is realstop reading hereAtheism = into the trash it goes
>>18441200you're an atheist because you can't reason = you'll burn in hell forever because you're low IQ (IQ is mostly genetic btw)
>>18441179this, we should capitalize the fact that we're regulars of this site to reach all walks of life
>>184412884chuds aren't a separate social class, we're regular people whom you can meat irl just like anyone else. The only difference is that when you talk to me about religion on 4chud, I view it as a larp and mock you for it while irl I smile and nod as if I were talking to a bloke who happens to be a bit dim.
>>18441145I have noted a huge shift recently. Now everybody sees atheists as the midwits they are. They actually seem to be getting desperate with the nonstop spam of threads like these.
>feed the poorhad dinner last night thanks
>>18441321>Gen Zers are incels and so now they reject atheism because the brutal raw truth of Darwinism is too much for themThis is not the win you think it is. They don't believe in a talking snake, they want a sense of meaning in life and some pussy.
>>18441365>they want a sense of meaning in life Who doesnt? Atheism offers none of that. Atheism only offers death and decay.
>>18441385Atheism isn't supposed to "offer" anything, people simply believe it because they think is true. That's what distinguishes it from copes.
>>18441390Atheism is God's way of clearing the field for superior political and economic systems. Simple as that. He doesn't need glory like a man.
>>18441390They believe in atheism because they simply dont know any better. And the powers that be rather keep it that way in order to indoctrinate you into a new belief system that benefits them. Humans have an innate tendency towards religion, and they will make up one for you through propaganda if you dont have one. Even if you dont know it. Just try to think on how much unexamined garbage your mind accepted as truth based on hollywood movies and whatnot.
>>18441394Nice cope, Christian.
>>18441403Give me the best argument for the truth of Christianity. 1, 2, 3, go.
>>18441404Jesus isn't God. The religions are scaffolding. Ever heard of the Islamicity Index?https://islamicity-index.org/wp/latest-indices-2024/
>>18441407I really liked this one I saw the other day. But the basis of Christianity is that only He can bridge the gap between us. There is no way for us to meet God unless He choses to descend from His higher realm to live among us. And He did just that by incarnating as Jesus Christ and teaching us how to live.
>>18441425>both "arguments" presuppose god existsAll Christians are presuppositional apologists, some just hide it better than others.
>>18441429Everything is proof of God.
>>18441425But we know that Tolkien is a mortal man existing within the principle of cause and effect. God is not supposed to have a cause. Your analogy just introduces another layer on existence in which God created us but is still created in his own universe.
>>18441430Nice quip, presuppositionalist.
>>18441439The world is built on presuppositions. Existence of God does not mean that Moses turned a staff into a snake, that Jesus rose from the dead, or that Muhammad spoke to an angel in a cave.
>>18441442Thank you for conceding that you presuppose god exists.All Christians are presuppositional apologists (ACAPA).
>>18441450God is a necessary being to explain our existence. Its not presupposed, its logically inferred by looking at the world around us. You can either conclude that this world was created randomly through a chaotic multiverse explanation. Or that someone intelligently designed our existence. And the latter keeps being more and more probable as scientists keep finding evidence supporting the idea that we live inside a computer running a simulation. Which sounds eerily similar to the argument of intelligent design.
>>18441433>God is not supposed to have a cause.The buck stops with God, there has to be a fundamental ground at some point. A ground where the idea of being is possible. That fundamental ground is the basis of existence itself.
>>18441526>presup argument is called out for being presup>switches to another argument>argument hinges on pop-sci garbage he read on Redditlmao
>>18441547>brings up reddit out of nowhereYou could have just told me you were retarded and saved both of us the time. Silly me for expecting a logical and coherent response from an atheist.
>>18441553>out of nowhereNot my fault that you literally brought up reddit-tier pop-sci shit. I guess you fall for shit like that because it's the current equivalent of garbage like medjugorje.
>>18441554>r-reddit!cope and seethe
>>18441559Thank you for posting that picture, it wonderfully supports my point about you being a total redditor.
>>18441567Sure buddy, whatever helps you cope. Very cool presupposition of yours.
>>18441573That's not a presupposition, it's an observation. I pointed out that your belief in pop-sci garbage like the simulation hypothesis is very reddit-adjacent and you proceeded to post an image of a bald disheveled cartoon man in nerdy glasses grinning gleefully while looking at the wikipedia page about the very same pop-sci hypothesis.
>>18441578Can you actually answer the OP question or what
>>18441609Why should I? It's not aimed at me. Are you a bot?
>>18441578>That's not a presupposition, it's an observationHow is that any different from asserting that God exists by making similar observations like the one you just did? So its not a presupposition when you do it, but it is when someone else does it? Do you not see how stupid that makes you look by contradicting yourself like that? Also, are you aware that wojaks originated from this website and not reddit? Are you ousting yourself as newfag on top of being retarded?
>>18441627The first two "arguments" are presup-based, while this third one is based on pop-sci garbage. Wojaks originate from here and portray redditors. You literally posted a maymay which mocks a guy who believes the same pop-sci garbage as you lol.
>>18441629>The first two "arguments" are presup-basedYes, same as your presup about your reddit nonsense. But like you mentioned yourself. Presups are valid as long as they are observations. You literally did the same thing just now. Are you stupid or something? >while this third one is based on pop-sci garbage.Its a real scientific hypothesis you moron. Do you seriously believe that the theory originated from fucking star trek? You are not THAT dimwitted are you? Also, notice how you spun the whole thing into this weird reddit tangent as soon as you noticed you had no solid rebuttal to this>>18441526. Typical dimwitted atheist.
>>18441650An observation is not a presupposition, reddit anon. Please continue getting more and more mad as I mock your pop-sci reddit garbage that is also being mocked by the very same meme that you posted.
>>18441677>he unironically thinks im proposing an atheist computer simulationSounds like a reading comprehension issue. You are not very bright are you? Anyway, no rebuttal? I accept your concession, atheist-kun. That was easy.
>>18441702Whom are you quoting, reddit anon? Putting shit I didn't say next to maymay arrows and then engaging in braindead cookiecutter triumphalism is certainly a choice.Btw the versions of your favourite reddit hypothesis that just go with the general principle rather than the computational simulation stuff are just a philosophical hypothesis rather than a scientific one because the shit that's proposed as scientific tests all hinges on detecting things that would be indicative of computation.tldr you fell for a reddit meme and didn't even understand it lol
>>18441712God made you stupid and defiant, atheist. Just admit you hate him and want to sin. Then you can find relief for the first time in many years.
>>18441716Looks like I made you shut down and reboot lmao.
>>18441724>>18441716samefag
>>18441712Lol, seethe. Keep throwing your favorite word around anon. Im sure you will land into a coherent argument someday if you keep spouting your favorite website some more.
>>18441734I actually just gave you another argument, you just gave up on responding. In case you were too dimwitted to notice, I'll repeat it. The scientific simulation hypothesis (the one which you claim is getting more and more support lol) has the fact that the simulation is computational baked into it. If the computer simulation and the magical ghost guy simulation are mutually exclusive and if the scientific (computer) simulation hypothesis is getting more and more likely, then the magical ghost guy simulation hypothesis is getting less and less likely lol.
>>18441741Was it that hard to engage with the argument instead of going into your retarded reddit tangent? Thank you for actually trying now. And to answer you. Okay, lets suppose the computer simulation theory is real. You are making the fallacy that the ghost guy and the computer theory are mutually exclusive. My argument is that the computer simulation is ran by the ghost guy. Unless you think the computer magically assembled itself out of nowhere? Also, goes without saying before you want to go that way. The computer explanation is not meant to be taken literally, its an allegory to how our observable reality works. Please think carefully before you answer. I dont want you to run the risk of being dismissed as an idiot. Stay on topic please.
>>18441756So your argument right now is that Christianity is true because the simulation hypothesis could be correct, and it could be that Jesus of Nazareth created this world by constructing a supercomputer in a meta-reality and ran a simulation on it.That's not a very strong argument lol.
>>18441756By the way, I don't give a fuck about your feminine tone-policing concerns, redditor. Especially given that you're a low iq shitwit who fell for popsci garbage.
>>18441775Kill yourself
>>18441783Seethe lol.
>>18441772Nevermind, you are an idiot. Did you miss the point where (and I even called this) that the computer wasnt meant to be taken literally, and that its all allegorical? You really cant read can you? >>18441775I been calling you a retard pretty much in every single post. Where in your midwitted brain did you get the idea I was asking for tone-policing? The request was for you to stay on topic since you seem to be very scatter-brained and tend to go on weird unrelated tangents everytime you answer.
>>18441136you don't go out to find the real world
>>18441790That's where you hit the dichotomy I was talking about. If you mean more like a metaphorical simulation, maaaaan, that's not the one hypothesised by the scientific hypothesis but rather the philosophical one. Btw it was you who got distracted by me calling you a redditor.
If you truly believe hell is real and the fate of the damned is eternal conscious torment you should castrate yourself and wear nothing but sackcloth and live in the desert as an ascetic hermit with zero human contact.
>>18441876We are told to preach the Gospel, which is what we are doing. Repent and be saved.
>>18441880then cut your balls off wear nothing but sackcloth and preach the gospel instead of the desert part
>>18441883Nope. Repent!
>>18441888You claim to preach the good news but your clothing appears on the surface to be decadent and comfortable. That settles it, I will NOT be attending your church.
>>18441898Don't, burn in hell. It'll bring me joy to watch you cry and scream in hell as God melts the flesh off of your bones.
>>18441146>bongs cited
>>18441390Atheism is a privation of belief. Its ultimate end is the 0 Kelvin of thought. It is absolute retardation, and an utter lack of all knowledge.
>>18442716>Y-you have to believe in something!No the fuck I don't.
>>18442725>nihilismThat never ends well.
>>18441136Are you really interested? I don't think so. Even so, here it is: https://youtube.com/shorts/wOpXL8-j9swNow you cannot claim you didn't have opportunity.
>>18441141Do your diatribes include RANDOM ALL-CAPS, half of which is implicitly malding about catholics by ranting about WORKS?
>>18441136>feeding the poorI owe no obligation to those people. God can fix that Himself if He wants. Have you noticed how food has been designed in a way to create either a slave or a slave farmer. A good God would have made food more simple and easily accessible. Can you imagine if fruit had all the nutrients that you needed and the only thing that you needed to do was plant some trees. He made food more complex in order to enslave you.>raising a familyI don’t like this world. Why would I create another Human?
>>18443582True, although charity is not about obligation. The ones shaming others for not doing it, or demanding your resources, have no more God in them than the ones refusing out of spite. When you do voluntary good, both sides of the deal win.
>>18441403>Humans have an innate tendency towards religion*Brown humans
>>18441136I'll just repent on my deathbed and go to heaven. GG no RE
>>18441141This, I feed the poor by posting here
For most people here Christianity is just an aesthetic tool they add to justify their pre-existing reactionary ideological positions. They don't actually believe in it or adhere to it's teachings. It's a stick with which to bash the poor and hated minorities, who ironically were the people Jesus spent his time amongst.
>>18444017Jesus said to treat sinners like goyim, so I doubt the ethnic minorities claim you make is based on a sincere understanding of the scriptures. Jesus was focused on helping the poor of his own people. Not letting inbred Afghans come into his country to rape and live on the dole.
>>18444036You have fundamentally failed to comprehend the basic message of Christ and the Bible and instead have internalised a very modern American evangelical protestant, Hegseth style, MAGA "Christianity".Which is disturbing all the more given you appear to be British.If you read the Bible you'd know Jesus spent time amongst the unclean, poor, amongst lepers, unrepentant sinners, tax collectors, women, Samaritans, Syrophoenecians, Romans. All extremely controversial, deeply shocking, like hanging out with immigrants or transgenders or similar is viewed today.He was in opposition to the tradition ruling elites, the Pharisees and Sadducees - the ruling elites, or billionaire/MAGA/Epstein class.
>Jesus, a celibate man, spent his time helping sinners>this means you must let africans and muslims dwell alongside you at the expense of your children's upbringing
>>18444052It's unchristian to hate minorities.
>>18444048He called a Samaritan woman an adulteress, he called the Syrophoenician woman a bitch, and he said explicitly he came to save the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Retarded heretic.
>>18444054Your hate is unchristian.
>>18444055Your love of evil is ungodly. Jesus came to heal the sick, not to fraternize with the enemies of God, nor to encourage them in their sins, nor to welcome them in so they can harm his sheep.
>>18444059He literally spent his time amongst the most hated, marginalised, and sinful of society. The same people you hate today. You're a modern day Pharisee.
>>18444065Yeah, and he told them to change their ways. Go and sin no more. I’m not going to let the worst and most ungodly of people terrorize the righteous and the innocent just so you can continue to disobey Christ and feel good about it. Sodomites, infidels, and transgressors must go.
>>18444067I pray that you find Christ, rather than your American, plastic, hitlerian, fake evangelical MAGA Jesus.
>>18444073Your Christ is an idol, mine is the humble carpenter from Galilee who loved God. When you perish in hell God will pour molten rock into your mouth for condoning sin.
>>18441136>Shouldn't you be out in the real world feeding the poor or raising a family? You have zero excuses.Family thing won't work out for me, but I do try and help the less fortunate when I can. I don't have that much wealth though.But I agree with the sentiment of OP. too many use their faith as only a way of battling cultural evils. And while that is part of it, so is helping he poor, swallowing your pride, excepting suffering, etc.That doesn't mean not standing up for what you believe in if it makes people uncomfortable. But you are right that it is much more than that.
>>18444077I'll pray for you, that you find God's love and peace, and are freed from the demons of hatred which clearly currently habe rule over your heart.
>>18444080God’s love and peace comes when you reject sin and embrace his son. You will find it neither in this life nor the next.
>>18444079Based.
>>18444083You claim to know my fate and seem very happy in telling me I'll burn forever and be tortured in American evangelical hell.Evangelical MAGA anti-christians seem to love to hate for some reason. But beyond that, what you're doing is deeply against Christianity.James 4:12 - There is one lawgiver and judge who is able to save and to destroy. So who, then, are you to judge your neighbor?Matthew 7:1-2 - Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For the judgment you give will be the judgment you get, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. 1 Corinthians 4:5 - Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive commendation from God.Your actions in this thread are deeply anti-Christian. To proclaim someone's fate, and to take joy in it, are deeply sinful acts.
>>18444100Even the devil can cite scripture. That is why heresies abound. The Apostle Paul warned us about your kind. Your mouth speaks falsehoods and your heart belongs to Beelzebub.
>>18444053Good thing I don't hate minorities and I want segregation from them out of love for my own kin.
>>18444105>Sins>Gets called out on it>Uhmm you're the devil!!
>>18444111You would sit around sinners and tell them that what they are doing is fine. God will punish them, but he will punish you doubly so! I am in awe of God’s majesty that I am speaking to someone who will spend the rest of eternity in unimaginable agony.
>>18444119Proclaiming to know my fate, or anyone's date, is a sin plain and simple. You've now proceeded to sin again after it being pointed out to you that what you're doing is sinful.The simple fact is you MAGA evangelicals love to hate others more than you love God or care for the Bible.I can only hypothesise that's why your fine with repeatedly, knowingly, sinning in this thread. Because to you Christianity as an aesthetic to dress up your vile hate for your fellow man matters more that the message of Christ.
>>18444135Why do you keep accusing me of sin, future resident of Gehenna? Unlike you, I actually am one of the elect. You’re the one giving sinners false hope.
>>18444137I'm going to stop responding to you now for your own sake since clearly the Christian message isn't getting through to you and is only causing you to sin even more, repeatedly, and taking joy in your sin, in your hate.I'll pray for you like I said.
>>18444142Coward. You’ll find any reason to shun and reject true believers, but spend time around God-hating sinners encouraging them to fill up their measures of sin, just like the child of hell you are!
>>18444144Fine, I admit it. You’re right! I’m an idiotic loser sinner. I will go and sin no more.
>>18441403>Humans have an innate tendency towards religion, and they will make up oneYou're so close to getting it
>>18444162God made man to know him. You deny this because of the weight of your sins.
>>18444161Actually replying to yourself to try and elicit some reaction. Sad.
>>18444187>>18444161>>18444144Samefag. I never responded to his post.
>>18444162Even if christianity is made up (which it isnt) you cant deny the fact that believing in christianity or living among christians enriches your life way more than living as an atheist. So there are cultural benefits in believing in such a thing. Thats why you see a lot of "cultural christians" around who only want the benefits of living in a christian society without believing in it.
