What would it have been like?
>>18441517Russia but bigger
>>18441517What do the two stars stand for?
>>18441781yin and yang
>>18441517The biggest issue with 90s Russia was the slapdash way that the entire country collapsed after the retarded January coup and the subsequent selloff of state-owned companies to select connected private interests. Without the coup, it's likely only the Baltics would have left the USSR. A standing, stable government which was well on its way to democratization could well have turned into a socdem or socialist state focused on devolution of powers to the individual Soviet Republics within with the state-owned companies turning into true worker co-ops. That would have been the best path towards stability and growth after Brezhnev and the moneypit in Afghanistan. The late 80s and early 90s before Soviet collapse saw a rapid growth of really promising democratic representation within the USSR due to Gorbachev's perestroika.Of course, you can also argue that criminal elements had grown so large and powerful within Soviet society and much of Eastern Europe under that bushy eyebrowed retard and the doddering fool Andropov and that the people were so disillusioned by economic stagnation/backsliding alongside the utter comical stupidity of the Afghan war's tactics that transition to democracy was never possible. That is, it's possible to argue that the USSR was doomed from the 60s.
>>18441804*AugustNot JanuaryMy mistake
>>18441804I have simply come to believe that Russians are incompatible with democracy. Trying to imagine Russians adopting a socialist democratic government is like trying to imagine pigs dancing the cancan. It's simply not their nature. They would never respect a government that doesn't oppress them.
>>18441812Novgorod?
>>18441804>a rapid growth of really promising democratic representation within the USSRThis was incompatible with the existence of the USSR. Nationalists took over every republic and seceded.
>>18441517Shithole.
>>18441956Novgorod is basically modern Russia: Run by inept and retarded oligarchs that fleeces bydlo.
>>18442003Yeah, AFTER the coup. Before that, Yeltsin was ready to sign to the new New Union Treaty. The entire point of the August coup was because the signing was going to be August 20 and August 18 was the day Gorby was due to fly back from his dacha in Crimea.The entire path forward for the USSR as a united state fell apart in 4 days and everything Gorbachev predicted would result from a split has come to pass.
>>18441812democracy is a meme and russians are right to reject it
>>18441804That's cope, Soviet economy was in a free fall. The Belovezha Accords was result of that fall leaders of republics met to discuss barter trade of potatoes, grain and Russian natural gas and oil. Ruble was already in hyperinflation (every republic central bank printed them without control). They didn't come to agreement and Ukriane and Belarus didn't want to sustain Moscow bulling anymore so they ended>free trade for dollar and independence bitches!As for hastily reforms that started month later in Russia sane reason. Economy stopped. As Yegor Gaidar remembers in hushis menoimoirs In January Russian oblasts stopped shipping grain at state planned prices. Moscow had two weeks of bread left. So it was option of letting prices go or send death squads to confiscate grain. Yeltsin decided to avoid spilling blood of his citizens (and military demonstrated to be unreliable anyway, every institution was collapsing).There were no escape from the economic trap orthodix commies like Gorbachev locked USSR in by their delays if actual economic reforms.Biggest issue was that China disbanded kolhozes in 1979 and gradually shifted to fre market in agrarian sector in 1985. USSR delayed and delayed these reforms until they run out food in 1991 and reforms introduced themselves 1992 kicking out hardcore commies out of power.
