The Roman Empire lasted over 1400 years, the American Empire is on its death bed after 250 years
>>18442399Oh please we’ve had retards in office before. No internal issue is worth balkanizing over yet and the oceans between anyone who would try to bring the fight over are dissuaded by it
>>18442406yeah but you are losing the status of empire, I predict you will become irrelevant on the international stage in 50 years
the Byzantine Empire wasn't the Roman Empire, it couldn't even protect Rome from the Lombards after they conquered Ravenna (seat of the Exarchate of Ravenna) in 751 and Pope Stephen II asked for help and they didn't answerso he turned to the Franks who beat the Lombards and allowed the creation of the Papal States with the Donation of Pepin in 756
>>18442407Fucking good America has bitten off more than it can chew by attempting to be the world hegemony by consent. We have too many foreign lobbyists groups, we’re in too many places militarily and we’ve committed to too many agreements that now the bill has come due we’re finally feeling the pains of it somewhat. If it allows for us to fixe our shit and let the rest figure it out so be it.
>>18442407America is a continent-sized resource-rich country surrounded by 2 oceans and with mighty rivers running at its heart. It doesn't need "relevance on the wirld stage", it needs to reconquer itself and drive out the foreign invaders seeking to replace real Americans.
>>18442407Yeah this, I'll last 300 years at best.
Europe should wait for them to die off in their mutted state and then colonize them again
>>18442399>the American Empire*Western British Empire
Zhou lasted 800 years
>>18442399No, there were a bunch of different empires in that time period run by a different variety of families and interests and rules of law and if none of that matters, then one could easily make the case that the Roman Empire never fell and is still alive today in the form of the Roman Catholic Empire.
>>18442407>I predict you will become irrelevant on thePeople promise about dissolution of the US since the 1930s or even much earlier.>international stage in 50 yearsPeople still will go to America, because it's freest place on Earth.
>>18442662No, people go to America mostly because of material wealth (majority of new immigrants are 85 IQ Mexicans--they do not have philosophical opinions on liberty, they just want money and relative safety etc.)
>>18442672Material wealth and safety largely depend on liberty.
>>184424061945: 90%2025: 56%good luck with that one
>>18442399How long does it take for republics to collapse in general? I wonder how long it'll take for the Indonesian, Philippine, and Indian governments to collapse because none of them are real countries.
>>18442399>2 more weeks and America will be gone, brownbros! Trust the plan!
>>18442407>yeah but you are losing the status of empire, I predict you will become irrelevant on the international stage in 50 yearsI doubt it but I hope so.
>>18442399>fate of empires
>>18442399>>18442407you're not roman you're a brown third world latinx
>>18443130>self destruct
>>18443132>50 yearshuge die off will happen before thenlots of dead people
>>18443135oops that was meant for >>18442407
>>18442704Nah, see Singapore.American "liberty" is just a PR move anyway, people move there because of money.
>>18442419The US will become a Brazil-tier shithole unless the AI revolution turns society into something unrecognizable
>>18442408Honestly, a Roman Empire who couldn’t defend Rome anymore, what an absolute travesty. Even Honorius had the decency of informing the romano-britons that they were on their own. Byz couldn’t even do that… Byzaboos always ignore the actual events and just harp about much Constantine and Zeno for that “pure”, “untainted” lineage. But honestly, stuff like that makes it very difficult to say they were the heirs of Augustus. I guess it boils down the following question: Once you fail to carry and defend the legacy of your predecessors, do you stop being their successors? Byzaboos would vehemently say no or deflect by claiming they always carried and defended the Roman legacy but I do think so.
>>18443149>SingaporeTiny city-state with China-tier laws (totalitarian anthill with free-market), that has what it has because West allowed it?
>>18443194Yes?
>>18442399>The Roman Empire lasted over 1400 yearsNot at all; the Roman lasted from 753 BCE to 476 CE, not over 1400.>the American Empire is on its death bedNope, it isn't.
>>18443205>Nope, it isn't.How lol?
>/his/ - pseudoscience
>>18443205The eastern empire continued a line of emperors that stem from the original and maintained their legacy up until either the Muslim conquests or their failure to defend Rome and its separation from the Empire.
>>18442704"No". 120 years ago Germany was among the most developed, wealthy, safe countries on the planet, all the while having an authoritative culture and system. Germany wasn't developed because of le liberty, Germany was developed because it was full of Germans.
>>18442513>Roman Catholic EmpireYes
>>18442407>yeah but you are losing the status of empireThe US has military operations in the Pacific, Africa, and throughout the Middle East, you think Iran is the only conflict the US is currently involved in? Lmao you're naive. No other country in history can occupy continents on the other side of the planet for decades and still send people to the moon. We literally haven't even seen the American Empire reach its peak yet
>>18442399>the American Empire is on its death bedYou retards have been saying this since the 1980s and you'll continue saying this 100 years from now. There is no satisfying you third world retards and giving you access to the internet was a huge mistake.
>>18442407>you will become irrelevant on the international stage in 50 yearsThis is some insane cope. The British Empire is long dead but the UK is still more than relevant on the world stage. The US is going to remain relevant for the next 1,000 years at least, even after the loss of its empire which hasn't even happened yet
>>18443130John Glubb was a retarded grifter who was salty that he was witnessing the loss of his own Empire and tried to make sense of it. History isn't cyclical, it's not a straight line either, anytime you see these kinds of models you can very quickly dismiss them as nonesense.
>>18443655People who are not American really cannot wrap their heads around this level of winning
>>18443655This is bizzare anachronistic patriotism cope. America can't even defeat Iran, has lost tremendous prestige at the world stage, and has rapidly declining standard of living and a rapidly declining quality of population. The youth is already majority non-white. To think America is not just not declining (fast), but actually ascending is insane. Yes America is still a formidable military power, but everyone knows this, and this doesn't contradict the overall trend.
>>18443663>America can't even defeat IranExcept for you know, killing all their leaders and top brass in less than a month and blockading the Strait of Hormuz but okay sureI should remind you that the United States is literally on the other side of the planet while all of this is happening
>>18443663> To think America is not just not declining (fast), but actually ascending is insane. Lunar bases WILL happen in your lifetimeThe US is still involved in Iraq by the way, their Prime Minister expressed that he openly supports indefinite US military involvement in the region. I know you probably struggle to comprehend this since your shithole can barely wage war on your countries own border.
>>18443664Ah, the strait was closed by America! Kek. And yes we are all aware that this is America projecting power on Iran, and that America is a greater military power than Iran. Nonetheless, America has failed in its objectives (regime change, uranium enrichment etc.).
>>18443665I live in America. Texas.
>>18443668>I am John from Texas Oblast please to meet you Comrade
>>18443666>Nonetheless, America has failed in its objectives (regime change, uranium enrichment etc.).How can the US have "failed" when the war isn't even over yet?Satan isn't sending their best it seems
>ITT: Brown /int/fags Favelapost to ragebait Americans and the mods here are completely useless
>>18443668>texicansenooooooooooor
damn paco got mindbroken hard by america closing the strait kekthe markets confirmyou lostwe wonyou got outplayedBRICS was exposed as useless cuckolds
>>18443643>an authoritative cultureNo? Prussia had an authoritative culture, yes, but Rhineland and Westphalia were centers of German liberalism and German Empire derived its wealth and industry mostly thanks to these territories.>systemNo? German Empire wasn't centralized country. Every old state retained its own constitution, ruler and government.
>>18443205>roman empire>753bceyou wot
>>18442406Lol the kikes have you by the balls. They are going to suck your empire dry within a generation and you aint gonna do shit about it, goyim.
>>18443664America is dying retard-kun. Once it becomes majority non white (and it will), it will slide into irrelevancy and become Brazil 2.0. It's power, wealth and prestige are correlated to its white populace.
>>18443663NTA, not American, and not a burgerboo, but:>America can't even defeat IranIran is getting bombed continuously, and their only leverage is the Strait of Hormuz. The thing is that, while the closure of the strait slows the world economy, it doesn't strategically affect America much, because the US is a major energy exporter anyway. The best Iran can achieve in this war is barely managing to crawl away alive as a country.>has lost tremendous prestige at the world stageThis already happened before with Bush. They will just elect some smiley-faced Democrat, and everything will go back to normal. They won't even need to change their foreign policy; the goyim really are that stupid.>has rapidly declining standard of livingSo? How good the plebs have it has nothing to do with the empire's capacity to project power.>rapidly declining quality of population. The youth is already majority non-white.America has 200 million whites and 25 million Asians. It will always have enough quality human capital available to power itself.
>>18443917this. imagine the circus america's military will be once all the top brass are indian/latinx lmao
>>18442399>the American Empire is on its death bedIt's honestly remarkable how thirdies have been making the same exact thread for the past 20 years without a hint of irony or self-awareness.