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>>18442471I don't understand the point of abandoning polytheism if your supreme God, who literally created everything, has power over all things, and is good and wants goodness in the world, is going to let his whole project get fucked up by one of his own creations. Clearly, clearly, if you have any brains, God uses Satan as a tool. To punish people, to test people, and to scare them into obedience.
>>18442471No one ever said Kabbalah was easy to understand for a layman. Especially when all you consume is cherrypicked clips from instagram reels.If you want to shit on Hassids there are better ways to do it than to take screenshots of some Rabbi giving a lecture in hyper-obtuse Kabbalist nonsense you don't fucking understand.
jews drink blood
It's time to admit the gnostics were right and the polemics were cover hiding the true light of God.
Lies. They worship a woman called the queen of whatever.
>>18442471He is called Venom of God and is God's servant. We know him as uncle Sam. Jews are afraid of ps saying his name to not attract his attention. When God showed him to Moses he begged God to not let anyone in his tribe fall in his hands. But God will destroy him in the end because he is death and death will be no more.
>>18442475>to scare them into obedience.Judaism believes Satan is an agent of God sent to test them, but they also see him as a genuine adversary of humanity. In other words while his objective purpose is testing people, his own motivations are still hostile to humanity and he wishes for their downfall. This is also why he's seen as mankind's prosecutor in God's court.
>>18442596In Judaism angels don't have free will, so that can't possibly be true. Maybe in Second Temple Judaism, but after Maimonides and the other Medieval intellectuals there is no such thing as some kind of actual adversary.
>>18442475>>18442596When you think about it it's almost an inverse of Christianity's Satan. In Christianity Satan's motivations are focused on opposing God, corrupting humanity is just a step on the way for him.In Judaism, Satan is fully subservient to God and knows his role in the heavenly hierarchy, it's humanity and their corruption which he's focused, which makes him the ideal agent for the task of testing humanity.>>18442597There's no contradiction, Satan never deviates from God's task given to him. The 'lack of adversary' you refer to means lack of adversary to God, which is correct. While it's true some over time have abstractified Satan into being the 'inclination of evil' itself, the belief that a Satan angel exists is still widespread, since it holds up with the book of Job.
>>18442471This is admitted by many.
Should be noted that 'Satan' is a severe curse word in Hebrew with its meaning being pretty obvious. It's not exactly used as a compliment.
>>18442604>There's no contradiction, Satan never deviates from God's task given to him. The 'lack of adversary' you refer to means lack of adversary to God, which is correct. While it's true some over time have abstractified Satan into being the 'inclination of evil' itself, the belief that a Satan angel exists is still widespread, since it holds up with the book of Job.There absolutely is a contradiction. This means God intentionally created a being designed to attack humans. And yes, I know about the yetzer hara junk. I have spent more than enough time studying Jewish theology. It's idiotic. I'm sorry, but the Bible and Judaism are just plain stupid. Stop trying to defend a God who created a being that intentionally causes evil for others. If he does evil to even the righteous man, then there is no reason to trust him, no reason to obey him, since it would be entirely irrational.
>>18442471This is the logical conclusion of God being the totality of all being. Nothing exists outside of him,
>>18442606>most jews would disagree with me Oh, that proves they worship the devil then.
>>18442613>There absolutely is a contradiction. This means God intentionally created a being designed to attack humansYes he did, and he says so plainly in Isaiah 45:7I'm not religious either so looks like none of us have something to defend or advocate for, it's purely a discussion of the religious view itself. And there is no contradiction in what I said.
>>18442471That does make sense even considering the old testament, God is the one who creates all the difficulties. The most blatant story of this is exodus, where God hardens the heart of the pharao.
>>18442481Jews are forbidden from consuming any kind of blood at all. We had this thread last week. You ran away when asked to prove this alleged former Rabbi existed.
>>18442618God is the one who controls demons. There is nobody not under his authority. He is the LORD of All Spirits. He created them all, good and bad and they all work for him. God is the one who punishes and the one who rewards. He is the one who kills and the one who gives life. He does all the things.1 Samuel 16:14>Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.Notice the demon who tormented Saul is called an evil spirit of the LORD. There's no good God and bad God, there's just One God.
>>18442471What was the context of this statement?
Another kid in India got zapped chasing after a monkey. This one looks like he'll be fine after a cow dung bath and a blessing from the local witch woman. Indian officials said they are investigating whether the monkeys are intentionally luring children towards live wires.
