What made it so popular in East Asia? Loyalty over honor, obedience as a virtue, follow principles and eliminate human desires… They turned the millennia old eastern philosophy into soulless codes for a bug society
>>18443095Slave morality
>>18443095much like every other philosophy not stamped out by society what is your point
>>18443095Its philosophy of rice farmers, no wonder they all get wrecked by Chad steppe Mongols
>>18443176I’m too afraid to ask about the corn culture…
>>18443176Pastoralism is pure gambling. One bad season and you're dead, along with your herd.Wheat is hoping for the best, but at least having something to fall back on. As in you can eat some of the reserves you kept for planting and then slowly work your way back to not starving over a couple years.Rice is producing so much food that you're forced to eat the enormous surplus population whenever something goes awry.>>18443182Corn is an industrial raw material, not food. Potatoes are king.
>>18443095>They turned the millennia old eastern philosophy into soulless codes for a bug societyYou're acting like this wasn't always the case.East Asian society was built on Chinese philosophy, and a central tenet of Chinese philosophy was the sort of rigid morality you'd expect from people with Aspergers.Look up Mencius and Xunzi's argument of human nature for an example of this. Mencius argues humans were innately good and society would simply function harmoniously because of this. Lords would be good to their serfs because they just would okay, and serf's would work diligently until death, again, because they just would okay. Xunzi's counter-argument is that people were innately bad and had to be made to do things they were supposed to do. Lords had to be threatened with punishment or they'd abuse their serfs. Serfs had to be whipped and beaten into submission because otherwise they wouldn't do anything. Both sides had a completely black and white way of looking at things, there was no room for nuance in Chinese philosophy. Now I don't know if you want to argue that the people were autistic themselves, but the philosophers surely were, and they in turn influenced all of society because the rulers adopted their principles.This same sort of thinking permeated their system of government as well. The God Emperor was either 100% right, the human embodiment of perfection who couldn't be questioned or challenged in any capacity whatsoever or a worthless wretched tyrant who needed to be deposed and millions needed to die doing it. The Japanese took this a step further and declared the Imperial line could never ever do anything wrong. The Emperor was good because he was the Emperor and he was the Emperor because he was good.
>>18443095>What made it so popular in East Asia?It's East Asian humanism. Religion loses its prominent role, it calls for more education among the commoners, establishes new (but kinda old) boundaries for the ruling class and people with power.
>>18443176Same steppe Mongols raped their way to central Europe btw kek
>>18443095>What made it so popular in East Asia?It was popular in Korea and Japan. Not so much in China where it went against an belief older than Confucianism (Mandate of Heaven philosophy).
>>18443552How is "Mandate of Heaven philisophy" different from/older than Confucianism?
>>18443095>>18443101>>18443176That's why your society is low-trust and crime ridden, while East Asia isn't.
>>18444995>china>high trust
>>18445002Compared to Western nations? Yes, not even debatable.
>>18445003I would sooner trust a black meth addict than your average Chinaman.
Taoism should've won out. It's such an elegant religion/philosophy.
>>18443552>Mandate of Heaven philosophyThis is why the and humanities cancer must be deleted from this board.
>>18444992Because its from the Zhou period. Also I said its different from Neo-Confucianism, which demands total deference of those down below to those up abover, wheareas the Mandate of Heaven belief espouses rulers to behave virtuously and take care of their realm or else risk mismanaging it and lose heaven's favor, justifying revolts against you.
>>18443095Because traditional Confucianism was dead and fighting off Buddhism, revived Taoism, Nestorian Christianity and other new influences in Medieval China
>>18443176they were steppe chads and thats why all the steppe chads were so eager to get as far away from the steppe as possible. of course
>>18443095Because think anon. Loyalty but who are you loyal to? Who do you have to follow orders from?What does this mean if you're the top dog with the biggest military and megafarms to feed that huge army- unquestionably loyal to you?
