>tries out communism>millions immediately starve>locusts and floods strikeWhy is this ideology so cursed?
>>18444748Because Lenin was the first to succeed and then exported his retarded Russian ideology to other countries.
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>>18444748So apparently being Confucius' top guy is communism now?
>>18445271>Wang Mang redistributed land from the rich to those who owned nothing, introduced new taxes on slave owning, prohibited the sale of slaves, and implemented limits on how much farmland one family was allowed to own.[9][8]>He established the first income tax through a 10% tax of net earnings from wild herb and fruit collection, fishing, shepherding, and various nonagricultural activities and forms of trading.[17]:97 People were obligated to report their taxes to the government and officials would audit these reports.[17]:97 The penalty for evading this tax was one year of hard labor and confiscation of the entirety of a person's property.[17]:97 Because it caused popular discontent, this income tax was abolished in 22 AD.[17]:97>He also nationalized farmland,[16] and restored the government's old monopoly on the salt and iron industries.[5] To further strengthen the empire's struggling economy and restore the government's fiscal stability, the Xin dynasty also implemented a new system to stabilize market prices, replaced the gold currency with a bronze currency, and forced nobles of marquis and lower rank to exchange all their gold for copper coins. These policies allowed the nearly-broke government to regain much-needed funds, and actually improved the economy, but caused great resentment among the nobility.[9][8] >In an attempt to return to an idealized past, the Xin regime also implemented architectural changes to the capital Chang'an. The "Nine Temples" were constructed where the emperor worshipped the Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors, breaking with the Han dynasty's tradition to worship one's own ancestors. >According to Li Feng, Wang Mang would have been "the greatest reformer in Chinese history" if his regime had survived.[16]
>>18445249>went down fighting amidst his harem girlsdamn i wish that was me
>>18445287Imagine being a communist emperor with a harem of Asian girls whom you teach about Confucius and Marx
>>18445249>>18445287>>18445375They probably raped him before they killed him fyi
>>18445381No proof
>>18444748I can't speak for earlier attempts but the modern version created by Karl Marx was maliciously designed to be flawed. Marx was a Freemason, he wrote letters to friends bragging about making money on the stock market. Like other high ranked Masons he worshiped Satan, he wrote a whole book of poetry praising Lucifer. Most of his past has been obscured by Masons but there is documentation here and there.
>>18445281There is nothing inherently Communist (or Socialist) about any of this. He didn't collectivize agriculture, mantained the nobility, mantained slavery, mantained private ownership of most trades and industries. And I don't know where to even begin with his attitudes toward the past, as un-communist as it could be. This is a dreadful presentism.
>>18445398Regardless, if we are going to be True Marxist Theorycels™ about this, Wang Mang ruled over a society beholden to a mode of production that was at best Feudal or, god forbid, part of the "Asiatic Mode of Production" *shudders*.
>>18445400This makes him being a socialist impossible because the dialectical pre-conditions of socialism had not yet been formed. But then again China is weird as fuck.
>>18445402Fortunately modern marxoids have done away with the AMP and are now cope-maxxing with feudalism and what such.
>>18445398>And I don't know where to even begin with his attitudes toward the past, as un-communist as it could be."Communism is when you don't mythologize the distant past. The less you mythologize the distant part, the more communister you are." - Karl Marx
>>18445420Fixation on a halcyon past is, at the very least, opposed to Marxism, and rather contrary to the spirit of the rest of the socialisms. They were progressive, not regressive, movements.
>>18445459They are an attempt to regress to the state prior to the division of labor. Communism is radically reactionary and wants to retvrn to grug
>>18444748Wang Mang is called a time traveler on Chinese Internet because of similarities to the CCP reforms
>>18445400>"Asiatic Mode of Production"Idk much about Marxism, but I assume this was invented as an Orientalist pretext because Chinese history did not align with Marx's theories?
Can anyone explain what motivated Wang Mang's reforms to redistribute land and abolish slavery? Many other emperors were also Confucianists and they didn't do that
>>18445462No.>>18445471It's about all of Asia, not just China. It's mostly based on India, actually. But yes, it's supposed to resolve the problem of Asia not fitting the model of historical materialism Marx used for Europe (which is basically imported from Hegel).>>18445462Well not really. Communism proper would be a large scale industrial society with a large amount of surplus which can be freely accessed by all. Primitive communism wasn't like this. The only reason it's called communism is because there's no surplus to exploit.
>>18444748You are dumb, not gonna elaborate further
>>18445542No u
>>18445475Basically every dynasty had a problem where nobles and big land owners gobbled up land from peasants through various means. And due to the elites being the ones running the government they paid very little tax since they dropped their tax burden mostly entirely on the commoners. They simply refused to pay the taxes and the poor government runners collecting taxes had to get from the other people in their district. This process repeated in every dynasty and got worse and worse towards the collapse.
>>18445249anime battle harem protagonist
>>18445490>Well not really. Communism proper would be a large scale industrial society with a large amount of surplus which can be freely accessed by all.I'm not talking about tech level but about the way society is set up. Tech decelerationists would be anprims
>>18445398>There is nothing inherently Communist (or Socialist) about any of this.This is wrong....... the nationalization of land is a key competent of communism. He even tried to remove price signals like all retarded communist countries.>He didn't collectivize agriculture, mantained the nobility, mantained slavery, mantained private ownership of most trades and industries. Like all communist countries because it doesn't work in practice
