>2000>WE NEED TO REPLACE PAPER BAGS WITH PLASTIC SAVE THE TREES>2026>
>boomers were lead poisoned>zoomers are microplasticedmillenial bros, did we win?
>>18444861California banned plastic bags in 2024, but stores were still allowed to use their existing inventory so it really wasn't until around late last year that stores started switching to paper fulltime. Technically the state initially banned them way back in 2014 but the bill had too many loopholes which allowed stores to just issue thicker plastic and classify the bags as reusable under the terms of the bill even though they really weren't. But God paper bags fucking suck. The frustrating thing is that they don't have to suck, you can design a better paper bag with paper reinforcement to hold items in better but it would cost companies an extra $0.05 to produce per bag and they don't give a shit. I also really call into question how effective it even is in the real world when every soda bottle and milk carton is made of plastic still but fuck it I guess it's the customers fault for microplastics when companies can't even be fucked to switch back to glass bottles.
how about we make them out of cotton and reuse them
>>18444861>WE NEED TO REPLACE PAPER BAGS WITH PLASTIC SAVE THE TREESwho the fuck said that
>>18444861>>18445029So is this another rightoid narrative which has no basis in reality?
>>18445044No, again California banned plastic bags for big box stores back in 2024. It's not baseless but it doesn't need to be editorialized either, everyone should just be using reusable bags anyways
I usually get some boxes there.All they get is usually boxed, so most of the things the sell could be put back in, with some space lose, of course, but you get the idea.Plus, they get rid of the boxes.Reuse>recycle
Banning single use plastics at groceries stores and restaurants is retarded since it does nothing to address the overproduction of them in the first place. Paper will always be superior to plastic, but really everyone should have reusables anyway.>>18444959As much as reusables rock, it doesn't mean much when companies are still infinitely producing them, probably way more than people actually use them. Grocery stores realistically need to just treat reusables like glass and have a deposit system to people bring the back to the store.
>>18445062Meant the narrative that paper bags were opposed in the early 2000's.
It’s all just marketing. It’s really disturbing how easy it is to manipulate normies. It’s no wonder sociopaths like Jeff Bezos rule over these fucking morons…
>>18444943Unironically yeah. 1986-2010 were probably the best air and water quality since the early 20th century. It's only going to get worse for anyone born in the next 15 years when everything gets polluted to shit by data centers and pajeets doubling in population.>>18444954They can't use glass bottles anymore because they're too fragile and would require an entirely new logistical chain of workers and equipment specifically for transporting and handling glass. I think most recycling services don't even want to take glass in some places anymore.
>>18445115>They can't use glass bottles anymore because they're too fragile and would require an entirely new logistical chain of workers and equipment specifically for transporting and handling glass. I think most recycling services don't even want to take glass in some places anymore.Literally 90% of alcohol is sold in glass bottles as well as some bottles of coke (contrary to popular belief, most "Mexican Coke" is bottled in the states)There would've have to be a change in logistics, the bottling plants are literally already there, the tooling is already there, and yes, recycling services will take glass bottles, I don't know what the fuck you're smoking here to be so confidently incorrect about everything
Alcohol in glass bottles, BC some plastics may react.Glass needs a lot of energy to recycle, plus heavier.Plastic,.if well recycled, is easy .cheap, resistant, light, etc.Paper bags break with condensation on cold items.Glass coke and beer have a cooling overcoat in bars.Just brainstorming, if it helps.
>>18445044The inventor of the plastic bag said something along the lines that he did it to limit logging for paper bags. Which was a problem, ie companies that didn’t give 2 fucks logging old growth forest and turning century old trees into paper products. That is/was a problem. It wouldn’t have been a problem if the trees used for paper products were intentionally planted and harvest young, like now with slash pine, pulp trees and other agriforistry efforts. Want to cut down a tree for something? Plant one first.
>>18445044Just admit your birth year starts with 2
All of this random garbage about bags and straws and this and that is nothing more than a show. It's just like recycling, the whole thing gets dumped in the same place anyway. They just want to push the pollution problem on the customer while the international corporation drops a million tons of cancer chemicals into the ocean.
i dont even see the point of any kind of bags for groceriesjust unload the shit out of the shopping cart into my car, no bags needed
>>18445177In urban centers, people often walk to the grocery store and carry their groceries home, which is easier with a bag.
>>18444959I dont wanna carry a purse to the grocery store
>>18445277You can't carry it in, but you can carry it out? Dumb fuck retard.
>>18445074https://youtu.be/wPtB03WvB3Y?si=08tJHsveLnVG1FxyYes, plastic bags and plastic in general was sold as the better environmental, sustainable choice.https://youtu.be/wPtB03WvB3Y?si=08tJHsveLnVG1Fxy
>>18445115>>18444943>t. Useless 33 year old millennial retard still getting bullied by Boomers and already less relevant than ZoomersMillenials. Probably the most useless, cringe, retarded generation. Known for.... avocado toast and marvel movies lmfao
>>18444943No they were pumped full of estrogens in their food
>>18445958I can't believe the American Plastics Council was pro plastic
>>18444943>asbestos>estrogen>11 servings of pasta a day (if american)enjoy your gyno, shortness of breath and knee pain, old man
