>Capitalism will collapse in two more weeks!>[Narrator: it didn't collapse]
>>18446120>Capitalism survived but white people disappeared Genius economic system
>>18446123Silence, commie. I need muh jeets
>>18446128This is all true. It's not just Italians, most Europeans don't want to do ''lowly'' jobs anymore. That doesn't mean you need to import Indians necessarily but it's true that a lot of people see some types of jobs as beneath them
>>18446128Fuck, I forgot about profit margins!!! I’m so stupid and retarded. I forgot about the shareholders!!! OK, let’s keep the white genocide rolling. Daddy needs a mega yacht!
The only reason we still have "capitalism" today is because people listened to him though.
>>18446143I mean yeah it's true. People would rather work an office job for a low wage than milk cows for a somewhat higher wage
>>18446120>Capitalism survived but white people went extinct Incredible
>>18446147This. Keynesian economics saved capitalism because it made crisis much more manageable. Outsourcing labor also de facto made the workers in the west "labor aristocrats" who would not gain much in abolishing capitalism.Capitalism is still the most rational system if labor and material interests determine society (an already very spurious claim)
>>18446398>if labor and material interests determine society (an already very spurious claim)But that is what determines society (and also sex)
>>18446409Not really, self-expression, personal freedom, national identity etc are as important (if not more) than labor's purpose (self-realization).The typical marxist claim is to say that these are all "material" but by then you've diluted the concept into intellectual vacuity.
>>18446120[Narrator: it is about to collapse]Capitalism was done for in the 40's, when it was rescued by a oil, a FINITE resource that WAS easy to obtain and contained millions of years of solar power trapped inside it, so it had a labour to output ration of 1:200, which is absurd. But now, that's almost gone and capitalism is not going to be able to survive without it. That being said, what's going to come next won't better, it will be worse. We're basically going back into a new dark age of conservatism and brutality, maybe forever.
>>18446120who are you quoting?
>>18446123>>18446217surely this social policy has nothing to do with the fact that race socialists overran the west. Almost as if them transforming from their economic failiure to the social failure in the 60's directly correlates to the decline of whitey.>>18446144>I’m so stupid and retardeddas rite, now go fight your 2435332th commie civil war while the shit libs live it up on tax payer dime, then fight the 2435333th commie civil war when the victor is the one living it up on tax payer dime after they commit several genocides against randos and turn the country to white nigeria>>18446398>>18446732cope. Keynes was the founder of the 1917 club and was the greatest tool of big Govt. and socialism is when the government does stuff as you may well be aware.
>We will have full blown luxury communism is just two more weeks>Trust keep trusting the party, keep trusting the planCommunists are dumbest rubes on the planet
>>18446732Capitalism was supposed to have been done for in the 1890s
>>18446120There's a saying that Marxists have predicted 15 out of the last 8 economic recessions but 0 out of the last 8 economic booms. I guess they are trying to create a sense of urgency but according to their own theory (IIRC) capitalism regenerates itself in crisis, and they forget about that part. Like it's a series of contradictions that cause crises, but these same crises allow capital to break down old monopolies and begin again in new areas. The post-war economic boom in the 1950s of mass-produced consumer goods was a result of the enormous expansion in military production during the war which was retooled after it was over. You know the saying, war, what is it good for? It's good for a lot of things actually:https://youtu.be/jOFzTjjZcZw>>18446732>Let's see how capitalism gets out of this jam!*capitalism leaps out of its jam*
>>18447055NIGGER
>>18446143Id rather drive a tractor for a farmer than do coding if it paid well.
>>18447581Give me a virgin tradwife and I’d work in the mines at this point tbf
yes i'd like to be demoted to archaic
Marx was a poet who delved into a topic he knew literally nothing about (economics) then supposed that he was some sort of expert on it, built his entire worldview around it, and crafted an insane pseudo-science cult around it where he honestly believed that he could predict the future if you studied his specific take on economics enough.He’s not an economist, he’s never study economics, he never worked or managed a factory or worked in any capacity in that field.Instead of realizing that he was wrong, his deranged cult simply retooled and remade Marx's original outlook over and over and over again. After nearly 200 years of this Ship of Theseus act, “Marxism” is now rich westerners who shill for third-world theocrats that literally despise core socialist doctrines.
>>18447621Marx was right though, you lumpenprole.
>>18447625No, Bakunin as right. You are jewish.
>>18447688You’re right, I am Jewish. But I’m enlightened and care about the people.
>>18446120He never said that Also Marx predicted everything currently happening
>>18447726Like?
>>18447734Law of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall
>>18447738The tendency for the profit rate fall wasn't from Marx, retard. He took it from Smith.It's also not a law, or even universal
>>18447744>It-it wasn’t Marx it was Smith!!!And? What conclusion did Smith come to? Marx was right. It leads to Communism.
>>18447747>Marx was right about something he didn't even have anything to do withLol no retard, learn basic historty>Marx was right. It leads to Communism.No he wasn't. There is no stateless, classless, or money-less society and never will be.
>>18447751>Communism was a massive threat to the West in the 20th century b-b-but it’s not real Communism!Classic. I understand history way better than you. Marx was right.
>>18447754Where is the USSR now, tranny?The USSR is gone just like your penis. And it's never coming back, just like your penis.
>>18447757The USSR fell due to corruption. China, ruled by the CCP, is ascending to global leadership. Anyway. You’re economically illiterate and not worth talking to about this stuff.
>>18447760You're a pedophiliac leftist tranny that will never be a woman
>>18447766I’m neither of those things, and I get way more pussy then you.
>>18447766why are you thinking about fucking kids? i hope the people's republic manages to remove the pederast capitaloid gene with embryonic selection in the future
The New Deal was literally adopting a form of watered down socialism to prevent a communist uprising during the Great Depression. There are no capitalist countries, they are all mixed economies.
>>18447777Stalin fucked kids though? Communism is an endorsement of pedophilia.>The New Deal was literally adopting a form of watered down socialism to prevent a communist uprising during the Great Depression. ???????? Marx would have never supported the New Deal, he hated reformists.
>>18447621>“Marxism” is now rich westerners who shill for third-world theocrats that literally despise core socialist doctrines.That's true but I think you're kind of confused, since you're also, like, Marx was an idiot but the left (which you also hate) despises him. Or at least his method of analysis. Marx is actually pretty interesting though because a significant aspect of his work was critiquing socialism in his own day, or what mainstream socialism was, a lot of which Marx considered flatly reactionary. There's a self-disagreeing ("dialectical") quality there, which I don't really see in anyone now other than Chris Cutrone maybe, and he's utterly blackpilled Gen-Xer and doesn't think we're in a pre-pre-revolutionary period let alone that capitalism is about to collapse. Most of what you get on the left though now is moralizing to explain their own disappointments and humiliations mixed with some romantic militancy as expressed through Twitch clowns. Also the way they frame their positions rhetorically are almost incomprehensibly stupid and often ends up just dressing up anti-social, low-grade criminality and grifting perpetuated by narcissists as a remedy for the problem of capitalism (somehow).
>>18447760Gucci lamborghini communism is truly the future xister
>>18447788>Marx was pretty interestingYeah a guy who was a chronic alcoholic that starved his kids to death and cheated on his wife "was interesting" He was a lolcow who ranting about his jewish friends not paying his bills because he refused to get a real job
>>18447792That sounds like me though. Maybe I should read Capital. By the way, there’s nothing wrong with being unemployed. Marx brought hope to so many workers.
>>18447782shit that never happened and i dont know why you are talking about the new deal. leave the kids alone
There are cyclical crises.
>>18447799Communists call for the abolition of the age of consent because it's oppressive. Many Marxists like Satre, Foucault, Delueze etc thought child needed to get fucked for their own good.
>>18446120Capitalism existed throughout whole history of human civilization and will be exists in the future. Marx's theory is just typical for 18-19th centuries utopian shit according to which people would work for free, but no one would have responsibility for anything.People are hierarchical cruel monkeys. Our brains, subconscious habit and urges derived from stone age and absolutely haven't changed. Any attempts to build utopian paradise (fascist, communist, anarchist, etc) will inevitably reduce to oligarchic regime with different (depending on country) degrees of authoritarianism.
>>18447796>By the way, there’s nothing wrong with being unemployed.Marx mocked the idea of "anti-work" though? He considered Paul Lafargue's ideas to be degenerate and hated him for associating anti-work with communism.
>>18447818It’s called being structurally unemployed you ignorant lumpenprole
>>18447823It's called being a social parasite, and you would have been shot in the USSR for it, tranny.
>>18447829I would’ve been a party leader in the USSR
>>18447811capitalism is a reaction to mercantilism, what the fuck are you smoking?
>>18447832Being a party leader didn't save you from being shot though
>>18447836I’m different
>>18447836it did if you weren't a retard and didn't humiliate your betters or attract undue attention
>>18447760>The USSR fell due to corruption. China, ruled by the CCP, is ascending to global leadership.USSR fell due to been orthodox Marxist. USSR never disbanded kolkhozes and as result in the end run out of food.China disbanded kolkhozes and quietly abandoned communism in 1979.
>>18446120i don't think he put a timeframe on capitalism's inevitable collaps
>>18446120Question for all the self-proclaimed leftists and rightists here. Are these corporations leftist or rightist? Why or why not?
>>18446120Of all the biggest BTFOings of Marx, the staying power of the petite bourgeoisie and the rise of fascism had to be the biggest. A 3rd power between revolution and reaction just totally BTFOed the manichaen progression of history he believed in, it was akin to Islam just popping into existence out of nowhere in the 7th century when everyone thought the progression was gonna be Christianity vs Paganism. Commies to this day still cope by trying to tie it to capitalism in some way.
>>18447883i think corporations tend to opportunistically espouse political views that they think will yield them the most profit.
>>18447792Why do you care about any of that, you act like this dead historical figure personally ran out on you as a child. It's childish.
>>18447897Fascism is just racist communism
>>18447903Fascism has market economies (regulated) of some sort so the have economic efficiency from the invisible hand fo teh market.You don't really understand implications of actually implementing maxim liek USSR did.These two points:National questionMarket economyIs core difference between communism and fascism.
>>18447922>free market>regulatedjust admit they were racist commies
>>18447883>>18447900They're both leftist and rightist at the same time, idk. Who cares. Does it matter at all. I'm a fag and remember seeing a bunch of major banks' roll down the street during a Pride parade and didn't have the same reaction that those memes do, like how it's not real leftism or whatever (because I don't care about that). I thought, well, we're gonna win this one. Like the right has churches and the gays have Wells Fargo. Who wins that one? Wells Fargo. And homosexuals. Turns out same-sex marriage was legalized nationwide not too long after.I thought about it and came to the conclusion that Engels was right that the family is primarily an economic arrangement, and the "modern family" is important for accumulation, reproduction, inheritance etc. of private property. Capitalism has also freed people up to live more autonomous sexual lives (post-WWII), but to stabilize that, things kind of synthesized with same-sex marriage, which is also essentially related to property and shared assets around that. So when the banks roll down the street, what they were doing is advertising to people who might get married, and one thing a lot of people do when they get married is go to a bank to take out a mortgage on a house. They're hoping the people in the crowd will remember that "Wells Fargo is here for you."
>>18447897>BTFOed the manichaen progression of history he believed inFirst of all there was no any straight progression of history even in the past as Marx described it.Take his classical "slavery-feudalism-capitalsim". Everybody gobbled it up ... and it didnt exist.Medieval Europe city was always capitalist. Free citizens, working for pay and profit to make high specialized good to sell on the market for money. Nothing of this is feudalism. Its capitalism. Feudalism was in rural landsr were barons robbed peasants with threats of violents.. But then these same barons came to city to buy armor for golf coins, not robbing armor makers with threats of violence. Europe was hybrid system when too different economic modes existed in parallel. But Marx completely fail to capture this complexity of real life. His all teaching is extreme oversimplification meeting real life it falls apart.
>>18447924>>free marketWho you are citing?
>>18447937You’ve never even read Capital!
>>18447937Even the very concept of “capitalism” may very well be a Marxist meme. I believe he and Engels even coined the term.
>>18447834>implying that before mercantilism people didn't trade for profit, didn't have private property and mercantilism isn't state capitalism
>>18447883>>18447900This. Notice there was a lot more pride shit under the Biden administration than in 2025? It's not like all the corpos suddenly had a change of heart, they just feel public opinion shifted.
>>18447947so in otherwords, you speak of nothing in particular, just some vague and meaningless dribblecarry on then
>>18447966your concession is accepted
I genuinely wonder how anyone can take his retarded "philosophy" seriously
>>18448409reading it helps
>>18447811>People are hierarchical cruel monkeysThat's a 18th-19th century view on human behaviour. Genes do not encode for behaviour and certainly not hierarchy. If you believe they do, show me the genes, SNPs, whatever.You believe in some metamagical thing that would be some essence to humans, even if you link it to evolution.Evopsych in many ways is a form of religion, basing morality on a pretend "goal for the species" "you should reproduce" "extend your lineage" etc... This is what happens when you hand exceptionally complex tools to retards.You are free to do anything with what your environment and signaling molecules and cells do when interacting with each other.And no, humans are not obligate hierarchies. That's an emergent feature that appears because in some context it is optimal. And when it is not, humans are fairly egalitarian, compared to other species. They are mostly monogamous, but that's not a definite rule for humans, in some contexts humans are cruel and polygamous. For many reasons. "Humans" don't exist, per se...your pseudo argument does not in any way invalidate the possibility of communism. You will have to refute it with real arguments of contextual inadequacy, un optimal management of resources etc... But there too, you will find that the value of a resource is absolutely not fixed to either work or desire. It is normal to find it wrong for an addictive drug or instagram reel to hold more value than what you consider it to be.You may not be free, but you are way more free than what your essentialist view prevent you from being
>>18448542>Genes do not encode for behaviour and certainly not hierarchyYes? Behaviour and tend to hierarchy are determined by hormones.>show me the genes, SNPs, whatever.There are no genes for hierarchy or our urge to collect resources and food from stone age. It's mixture of hundreds of genes and hormones.>Evopsych in many ways is a form of religion, basing morality on a pretend "goal for the species" "you should reproduce" "extend your lineage" etc.But people, livng today, are descendants of ones who wanted and could to reproduce.>And no, humans are not obligate hierarchies. That's an emergent feature that appears because in some context it is optimal.Hierarchy inevitably arises in every group more than 5-6 people.> And when it is not, humans are fairly egalitarian, compared to other species.Even in relatively egalitarian hunter-gatherers society there is hierarchy - there are respected priests, talented hunters whose voice more weight than others and etc.>but that's not a definite rule for humans, in some contexts humans are cruel and polygamousIf humans able temporarily suppress their instincts, it's not mean that they don't exist.>For many reasons. "Humans" don't exist, per se...Mindset of leftist bugman, who ready to build Reign of Terror, Gulag or Factories of Death in sake of his utopian shit.>your pseudo argument does not in any way invalidate the possibility of communism. You will have to refute it with real arguments of contextual inadequacy, un optimal management of resources etc....So-called communism isn't build itself from pure economic theory. It supposed to be built by humans (hierarchical cruel monkeys).>You may not be free, but you are way more free than what your essentialist view prevent you from beingDeep...
>>18448542Also>That's a 18th-19th century viewCommunism is literally late 19th century theory, which absoutely haven't changed since death of Marx.
>>18448542>genes do not encode for behaviourLMAO>show me the SNPSNPs arent genes you mong, they are mutations of single nucleotides (as the name suggests)genes are made up of many, many nucleotidesvery funny how you are so confident about genes NOT encoding for behaviour, when you obviously have 0 background knowledgeif you remove certain genes from organisms (as is done in gene knock out experiments!), they will behave differentlythis is proof genes influence/encode behaviour
>>18446120Christ will return in two more weeks>2 thousand years later
>>18448713>Communism is literally late 19th century theory, which absoutely haven't changed since death of Marx.>which absoutely haven't changed since death of Marx.
