Why was it unironically so successful?
>>18446221Because Chinese have a 110 average IQ, aren’t run by Jews who hate them, and don’t have a sizeable ethnic minority that is dumb than Koko the Gorilla and has a tendency to kill and steal
>>18446221High compatibility with Legalism.
>controls 1/6th of mainland asia>controls 1/6th of the world's population>remarkable degree of cultural/linguistic homogeneity>westernised diaspora in the tens of millions that consider themselves temporarily-displaced changs even into the third generationLiterally all they had to do was open themselves to the world and it was gg
>>18446221Western realpolitik against the USSR and outsourced industry. China has 1.0 TFR and their "increased green energy" is still reliant on infastructure made economical only thanks to cheap coal. But yes, some of their major cities have pretty neon lights.
>>18446256No other country has went from extreme poverty to middle income that quickly.
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>>18446273Singapore. Turns out chronic poverty is a brown and black problem.
>>18446282That's a city smaller than Hong Kong
>>18446273South Korea did. And the Korean model sucks and leads to dreadful fertility as well.
>>18446283And here we go. Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong also count.
>>18446221It's Socialism without all the gay cringe stuff
>>18446221Capitalism. The rest is just fluff.>b-but the XX plan ???It's called state-lead capitalism. Practically every developed state post-ww2 practiced it to become a developed nation (Taiwan, Japan, France, Korea etc). It works for a while but ultimatly can't deal with a high-income economy.
>>18446230Chinese average IQ is more like ~100. 105 in the Northeast
>>18446284>>18446256to be fair, low birth rates seem to be a civilizational problem. No developed country except Israel is above replacement level
>>18446221+1 std deviation IQ higherall their "politicians" are engineersIts run as a technocratic government where the best practical engineering practices are considered
>>18446444White religious conservatives in America are above replacement rate. Also fun fact, US whites have higher fertility than US blacks even when you include liberal atheists
>>18446221The Chinese characteristicsSee capitalism with Chinese characteristics in Taiwan, Hongkong and Singapore
Because they did what Bukharin wanted to which was what Lenin trying to do which was what Marx wrote about in das capital
>>18446487>Chinese characteristics in Taiwan, Hongkong and SingaporeState planning is hardly a Chinese characteristic, every rich country developed through state planning the "free market" is a right wing nonsensical myth.
>>18446221the same reason the ussr was successful until ww2leadership understood you cannot go straight from feudalism to socialism, you must pass through a period of capitalist development to build up the means of production while maintaining state control of the economy. the soviets' issue was that they lost like 10% of their prewar population and had their economic heartland devastated by the nazis and then tried to support socialist movements around the world despite getting hamstrung. china doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world nor did they get fucked like the soviets did
because it wasn't socialism, nor did it have any chinese characteristics besides being located in china, a smart minority realized these 2 things were key features in any plan for success
>>18446278>co-operation of classesHMMMMMMMMMMM
>>18446221It's literally just fascism. That's all it is.
>>18446230FPBP /end of thread
>>18446660>leadership understood you cannot go straight from feudalism to socialism,Stalin reintroduced feudalism in USSR. Unironically (see internal travel restrictions).But they don't teach that in commie schools.
>>18446221Because communism doesn't work.Capitalism encourages people to work and be productive because selfishness and profit are the greatness incentivizes for human progress
>>18446230This was also true of China at basically all points in its history, so it has no explanatory power
>>18447241>capitalism encourages people to workbut not to reproduce lmaohow's that 1.0 TFR working out?
>>18447256>but not to reproduceYou are right.From the persons perspective there is no economic insentive to reproduce. And weak personal reasons. Kids were historically byproduct of sex, sex feel good kids pop out. but now with so called women's rights and contraception that nature trick of tying orgasms to kids doesn't work anymore.Kids are only needed for State but State and society don't want to accept (yet) above redpill. If kids are State utility state should demand kids like state demands taxes and cannin fodder conscript meat. State that first introduce demographic mandatory service will win 21st century.China has a good chance to be that country.
Jfl at the average person IQYou guys see a consistent pattern: A freer market makes societies richer.And your interpretations are always:>its because they're so big and have so many people! (with China)>its because its a tiny city! (with Singapore)>communism finally worked! (by being communism in name only)
>>18446230No, they're run by bugs who hate them
>>18446589I'm not talking about state planning or even any governmental system, it's literally the Chinese characteristics, imagine group of introvert, self-isolationist, exam score obsessed nerd, whatever the political ideology creates a country
>>18446230>and don’t have a sizeable ethnic minority that is dumb than Koko the Gorilla and has a tendency to kill and stealBlacks in America unironically contribute more to the economy than the average person in China contributes to China. The per capita GDP of China is only around $13,000 which is significantly lower than the lowest ranked US state of Mississippi at almost $56,000. These simple facts will trigger Changs and Wumao
>>18446221Deng saw how retarded the USSR was and said no and made changes. That’s all.
