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>Tiberius allegedly trained boys of the tenderest ages (no specific ages given, but language implies prepubescent) to swim between his legs as "minnows" (tincilli) while he bathed. He also had children—both boys and girls—perform oral sex on him. He called these acts "spintriae" (a group of children roped together for his pleasure).
· Ages involved: While Roman pederasty typically involved adolescents (~12–18), Tiberius is accused of going younger, even to prepubescent children. The historians are explicit: this was seen as monstrous, even by Roman standards.
>Some modern historians argue the stories are exaggerated or invented as political slander. However, the consensus is that something depraved likely happened on Capri—Tiberius lived there in self-exile for over a decade, and his reputation for cruelty and perversion is consistent across multiple sources.
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>>18447036
kek
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Tiberius’ sexual degeneracy during his absence from Rome was probably an invention on the part of Suetonius, who liked to make fact more exciting by adding fiction. But many sources discuss the purges and persecutions that followed Sejanus’ unsuccessful coup attempt against Tiberius.

Tacitus describes heaps of uncountable corpses in the street, dead bodies that people were afraid to mourn since mourning over the dead might be seen as evidence of sedition. Seneca’s description of Tiberius’ last years on the throne is less spectacular, but just as unsettling. Seneca writes that when he returned to Rome:
>there was a common and almost universal frenzy for informing, which was more ruinous to the citizens of Rome than the whole civil war; the talk of drunkards, the frankness of jesters, was alike reported to the government; nothing was safe; every opportunity of ferocious punishment was seized, and men no longer waited to hear the fate of accused persons, since it was always the same. . .[Tiberius] denied all knowledge of his friends and comrades, and wished men only to see, to think, and to speak of him as emperor. He regarded his old friend as an impertinent meddler. (From Seneca's "On Benefits" Books 3 and 5)
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>ai sloptext spam
>epstein image with ai filter
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>>18447036
Why they should fuck the pussies of their own grandmothers obviously you inbred haji fuck
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>>18447033
>jews are gay
obviously
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>>18447033
Jesus died so that Tiberius could keep fucking little boys in the ass on Capri. That's all the crucifixion meant. Not "justice", not "civilization", not "redemption", just Pax Romana; Roman peace. And this "peace" was only about keeping the money flowing back to the Emperor. The Roman Empire was one gigantic racket built on the backs of slaves and conquered nations. Pilate was assigned to govern Judea so that the Jews would continue to pay their protection money. When Jesus said render unto Caesar, he literally meant "pay off this Italian thug so he can fuck boys in the ass and leave us alone." So when this schizophrenic peasant, not even a citizen for Christ's sake, starts doing magic tricks in Jerusalem to get the Jews all riled up, Pilate has to kill him. When the Jews said "you are no friend of Caesar," they meant to say "if you let everything fall apart, the Tiberian ass-fucking regime will have to spend unfathomable amounts of money on fixing this problem." And if Pilate failed, and gods forbid he failed, Caesar would kill him. All so he could, and I will reiterate myself here, fuck little boys in the ass on Capri. An entire religious movement spawned out of an Italian pederast's mafia hit. Barabbas was a made man and Jesus wasn't, it was real greaseball shit. Welcome to Earth, where everything is gay and retarded. The holiest thing in the world started because some sex pest guinea and his ancestors wanted to hold the whole world hostage.
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>>18447242
Jews and gays are enemies
Jews worship a woman, just like America, Epstein, Trump, Swift, etc
They worship Atena
The gays are solar territory of Apollo and Dionysus
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>>18447104
>Tiberius’s well-recorded sexual degeneracy is an invention
You have no proofs of this.
>Suetonius and tacitus added fiction when writing about tiberius
You have no proofs of this.
>Seneca don't mention Tiberius’s cruelty.
Nope, like Tacitus and Suetonius, he write bad things about Tib, which are not fictionalo.

Your "they are all lies made by the senatorial aristocracy" is ridiculous and never made any sensé.
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>>18447033
It's a Mediterranean tradition.
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>>18447033
WE ARE JEFFREY EPSTEIN
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>>18447033
Release the Capri files
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>>18447033
Are you implying that Epstein's emails were faked by an embittered senatorial class?
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>>18447033
I always wondered if there was a connection between Tiberius the emperor and Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera.
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>>18447033
Imagine if it's all bullshit and some ancient writer is just slandering you because he disagrees with your policies. It's a scary thought that people can just say shit about you after your death and you have no way to respond.
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>>18448451
>trump buried babies under his golf course
>bush sr. ate poop out of the intestines of chopped up babies
Yeah it's kinda similar.
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>>18449275
Tiberius was a praenomen anon, your question is like asking if every person in America named John is related to each other
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>>18449330
Those were the tips that the FBI generated reports on, not the actual damning shit. If you are going to make this argument you could at least afford to do your own research.
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>>18449584
The "actual damning shit" consisting of Epstein talking to people about how much he hates Trump because's he a far-right danger to democracy and discussing ways to take Trump down. Yeah, that damning shit. The damning shit the prior admnistration sat on and did nothing with, that damning shit.
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>>18449590
This goes way beyond petty political disputes and culture war psyops, I assumed you had a novel perspective on the issue, it appears I was wrong.
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>>18449593
"Culture war" is a term meant specifically for disarming anything right-wing or traditional, by using it you just give yourself away.
Anyway let's not kid ourself here. The Epstein files were the most underwhelming crap in the world and the hysteria relies on headline slop like "Trump's name is redacted a lot" "Epstein told someone he's close to Trump" and of course the FBI hotline calls about babies being eaten. Not to mention Thomas Massie has already inadvertently demonstrated exactly why the release was so irresponsible when he read unredacted names on the House floor, referring to them as "powerful accomplices to Epstein's crimes" then it turned out they were random innocent people from a police lineup.
You don't get to call other issues psyops when your hysteria has been one of the largest slopfests in recent memory.
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>>18449597
There are several email chains where the man himself talks about torture videos, raping children, and market manipulation by an intentional elite of (mainly) Jews. This is a win for antisemitic conspiracy theorists on par with Goebbels finding out about Henry Strakosch. I'm not sure how you can assume that people who are suspicious about Epstein only come from one direction.
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>>18449606
I know they don't come from one direction, the retard right has made painfully clear. It's specifically the dismissal of social issues by calling them "culture wars" that is the hallmark of a libshit, but if you are part of the retard right I guess I'll update my perspective.
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>>18449371
Yes, however the Julio-Claudian and Flavian dynasties married several wives from the east, including those who could produce sons of great import to the eastern dynasties that could then produce a myth about one of these sons coming of age and starting a revolution.

For instance, Tiberius may have dealt directly with Phraates IV, the king of Parthia who was usurped by an "Italian slave woman" (his head mistress) and her son through him. Their lives disappear from the record books at the same time that the new (brief) Armenian Empire appeared, centered in Adiabene. If that Italian slave woman is Paulina from Josephus, then she is "raped" in the temple by some unknown guy who dressed up. Maybe that's the guy who the Talmud calls Pantera. Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera, a higher ranking soldier from Lebanon, could have accompanied his master Tiberius on this expedition and done the deed.

This is all circumstantial, and you don't need to tell me it's a stretch. It's just interesting.



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