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Make no mistake, Christians aren't simply claiming God exists. They claim it is entirely unreasonable for anyone regardless of their origin, background or level of intelligence to not conclude God definitely exists.
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>>18447186
No, Jesus says clearly that you have to be like a child to receive God's truth, or else you will not receive it. Paul even says the same thing, that God chose the weak and foolish things of the world.

You think you are wise, but you are a fool.
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>>18447186
The issue isn't that the claim is unreasonable, its that the Truth is too hard for you to accept. I hope the one day you "see the light" and learn to love your God, the only God that can save the earth from hell.
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>>18447193
This post demonstrates that Christians can't read.
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>>18447190
>you have to be like a child to receive God's truth
Literally confirms what OP said, lmao christcucks are so fucking stupid
>>18447193
Yeah, the only god that can save me comes from a desert shithole 2000 years ago and has never done anything since
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>>18447202
>Literally confirms what OP said, lmao christcucks are so fucking stupid
You are stupid, and God has made a fool out of you for everyone to see because of your pride and disbelief.
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>>18447210
>Christianity is so obviously true and everything else is so obviously false that especially a child who knows absolutely nothing and has been exposed to no culture will naturally discover the christian god over eveything else
you are so dumb you lose to arguments retroactively
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>>18447186
XNITY PRIMER
http://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1a-9eWjZWH-6uUOcRFJ4hFsgB2vOhdZZf
google drive easy to use interface
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read moar discern moar
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>>18447212
Children have NDEs all the time and meet Jesus. Again, God has made you a fool.
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>>18447219
>children who has been heavily exposed to X hallucinates X when <insert event in which the brain freaks out>
cool story bro, do you also believe all dreams are prophecies or what?
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>>18447223
No, some are demonic temptations. When I used to live in Oaxaca there was an older woman across from where I lived who was... beautiful. Anyway, I had a dream where I was having sex with her. I woke up the next morning and was completely smitten with her. I remember seeing her from her window with just a bra on and I wanted to masturbate. But I prayed to Jesus to save me from temptation and it worked. I realized that the devil was trying to make me relapse into pornography.
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>>18447225
how did you see her in a bra unless you were staring into her window? fucking brownoid
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>>18447225
>When I used to live in Oaxaca
kek
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>>18447219
>NDEs
what you see during an NDE is almost entirely dependent on the religious beliefs you have, hence why you see a bunch of muslim NDE cases, if anything attempting the NDE arguement is probably a greater proof for athiesm since it really affirms the idea its just in your head
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>>18447240
>Muslim NDE
You can't see Allah, idiot. Again, God has made you a fool.
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>>18447244
What is it with you mozlems suddenly swarming /his/ and inserting yourself into threads about christianity? Did some mohammedan discord drop a link to this board?
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>>18447249
Muslims have been on this board for years now. For the most part we have our threads about jurisprudence, the hadiths, historical events in early Islam, but we also like to come into threads and laugh at you stupid kuffar.
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Can it, fags, not be another topic?
I mean, I'm a spiritual person, but fuck off to whatever infernal third world church you came from. To Hell with abrahamic religion. Like holy shit, don't you know we arent medieval peasants? At least upgrade your tactics...
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>>18447257
Nah there's definitely been a big increase in posts by you machometan pedophiles.
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>>18447262
I'm not a Muslim, just a troll. Religion is for brown people.
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>>18447223
No, I did experimental stuff with this by my own side.
Essentially: Ardorius belief + intense practice = Highway to schizo visions.
So there's something about belief, personal perceptions, doing shit and mind behaviour. Not all of us see the same stuff, it depends on what your mind draws, so it's likely these factors influence redults, irrespective of the reality of the matter at hand, as makyo/prelest/delusion is a thing.
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>>18447265
Can you speak English?
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>>18447265
>>18447269
No. I speak english, at 15 I was 147 iq, so I may be interesting to grasp.
The data, from a buddhist manual, said the "noting" method of meditation could provoke makyo visions, so I xhose a belief (in this instance it was druidry) and I practiced for a while pouring "noting" meditation in the practice: I saw a Green Dragon in my bedroom past a few days of practice.
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>>18447275
You can't even write properly. Your brain is fried and you suffer from delusions of grandeur.
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>>18447276
It's just a half broken mobile phone and fingers like a blutwurst.
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>>18447277
Fine. What's the name of this Buddhist manual?
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>>18447283
boku no pico
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>>18447283
It's a manual on the masahi sayadaw method
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>>18447291
Yes, Retard will do fine for a name.
God is the final achievement of the Left Hand Path, and as for such, there's more than one of these.
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Everyone in this thread is so american and retarded
You don't understand anything
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>>18447306
>blah blah blah i'm brown and i smell like unwashed ass
we know.
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>>18447311
I accept your concession. Now go back to drinking corn syrup.
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>>18447293
Wow really scary image, you must be a badass reading that kind of thing
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>>18447314
I don't.
This is more my jam.
Are you braindead?
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>>18447293
The combination of runes and astrological symbols on the cover are totally meaningless btw, I can only imagine the content inside therefore is the same
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>>18447317
Its filth from balg. Guaranteed scam
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>>18447291
>being super smart is when you anthropomorphise your god to be some random guy who's invisible
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>>18447186
Yes.
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>>18447319
Plus there's better covers with less effort.
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>>18447291
>if I turn a baseless preposition into an image, it suddenly becomes true
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>>18447315
>he builds his identity reading books about how to be a shaman
Whewlad
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>>18447345
I guess it really hurts to realize youre a midwit haha
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>>18447368
If you're correct, you will get dubs. I, for example, can get a 69 on command. Watch.
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>>18447370
Get a load of this retard lmaoooo
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>>18447368
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>>18447382
irrefutable
retard
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>>18447382
You realize jesus is still on top of high iq?, your image is saying that high iq people repent and accept jesus... lol

Nice meme bro
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>anon can't even do a simple task such as editing a meme properly to transmit the message he wants to deliver
Really making a strong case for atheist intellectualism here
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>>18447389
>I deserve time and effort
Really making a strong case for christian humility here
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>>18447190
This is the tight toddler paradox
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>>18447219
No, they don't. NDEs have been shown to be completely culturally dependent. Asians and Indians don't see Jesus.
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>>18447291
This image is false. As IQ increases, so does atheism, with no point where this trend reverses. High IQ people are not christian.
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I can buy natural theology. I can buy the truth being somehow reflected in the gospel. I can't buy the bible being the truth; specially not the part about how some ancient civilization that has no relation to me was the bestest most moral civilization. It's like the chinese reading King Arthur. All the denominational autism that has become popular the last couple of years further cements that there's no way any organization holds the pure truth.
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>>18447186
God exists, but the god of the bible most certainly does not
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>NDEs
Theologically, what's even supposed to be going here?
Does God make an oopsie and accidentally put the soul into heaven, then the doctors yank it right back out with their lightning zapping thingy?
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>>18447476
Do you have a single snack to back that fact up?
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You could hypothetically prove that a god exists but you’d still need to prove it’s only one god then that it’s specifically the Jewish god then that the one god is actually 3 gods then that the three gods are actually one god at the same time as being 3 different people.
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>>18448045
Yeah, but I already proved that with my story about children telling stories about dreaming about Jesus after traumatic injuries
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>>18447951
>how some ancient civilization that has no relation to me was the bestest most moral civilization
This is not just not what the bible says but one could argue that it is the exact opposite of what it says.
>It's like the chinese reading King Arthur.
The way you completely misunderstand is more like a retard reading King Arthur.
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Op here

Nevermind that, I suck cocks
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>>18448057
NTA
This all evaporates if I think Paul is full of shit
People doing an external critique of the Bible is under no obligation to grant whatever patched-up bullshit you think Christianity is
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>>18447190
>book says you’re dumb if you don’t believe book
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>>18448077
People doing an external critique of the Bible *are under no obligation to read it apparently.
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>>18447186
Make no mistake, Atheists aren't simply claiming God doesn’t exist. They claim it is entirely unreasonable for anyone regardless of their origin, background or level of intelligence to not conclude God definitely doesn’t exist.
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>>18448140
Atheist here, I am most definitely not claiming that.
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>>18448088
So I can read the Bible, right? And then think it's super obvious that Paul is making stuff up
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>>18448188
Paul didn't write about ancient Israel or claim it was the bestest most moral civilization.
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>>18448198
What do you think my point is? Why do you think I'm talking about Paul?
Paul is the guy that thinks Christianity is universal.

I don't take Paul for granted. - You're the Chinese reading King Arthur.
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>>18448230
>Why do you think I'm talking about Paul?
Because you’re retarded?
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>>18448230
Because the seething hatred Muslims have for Paul made you bring him up in a conversation that wasn't about him?
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>>18448249
If you asked Jesus if the Israelites/Jews/Hebrews/whatever were God's chosen people. He'd say "yes". So would Peter and company.
If you asked Moses, he would also agree. And be really enthusiastic about his people being more moral, truer, and better

Paul is the guy that starts letting go of the chosen people idea
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>>18448259
>Jesus
Matthew 8:10-12
>Peter
Acts 10:34-35
>Moses would agree his people are more moral, truer and better
Exodus 32: 19-30
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>>18448273
Are we seriously pretending the ancient Jews were not supremacist?
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>>18448147
I know, I just swapped Christian with Atheist and God exists with God doesn’t exist to highlight to OP the absurdity of his claim
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>>18448284
Of course they were, but the Bible is mostly about them disobeying God and falling to sin over and over again, not about them actually being the most moral people ever.
Interesting how you want to talk about the ancient Israelites again after initially trying to diverge the conversation to be about Paul being the one who "let go of the chose people idea" after being faced by the quotes from Jesus and Peter directly including gentiles.
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>>18448293
>the quotes
Seriously?

Look, in the stories told by ancient Jews, Moses being concerned with the morals and actions of Jews - disparaging them and encouraging them to be better.
Is perfectly compatible with Jews viewing themselves as better, more moral or more valuable to God. Than the other people around them.

This is not a hot take.
Paul is the force breaking up this tradition. No way Christianity would be still around if Paul didn't enter the picture and start selling to everyone.
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>>18448335
>still ignoring what Jesus and Peter said
>only retort is "Seriously?" like a 16 year old girl.
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>>18447186
Psalm 14:1
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>>18448344
How am I supposed to react when you call the stories in the Bible "quotes" ?
It's very silly
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>>18447291
This image is debunked by the bible itself.
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>>18447186
Make no mistake, Christians aren't simply claiming logic and justice exist. They claim it is entirely unreasonable for anyone regardless of their origin, background or level of intelligence to not conclude logic and justice definitely exist.
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>>18447362
No, I'm not 15 like you.
I learn technique and that's it.
Speaking of which, you do trust a book with your life, I don't
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>>18447384
Iq: a thing your book agrees with us in your case it's low.
The Sir: for the children of Darkness are craftier than the sons of Light.
Now tell us how the bible is fake and gay, we know.
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>>18448746
Junko Furuta wants a word
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>>18447382
Luke 16:8 and accept your retardation, since your jolly book and thus your gawd are calling you dumber than us.
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Op here, after a long night of thinking ive decided to embrace my truth and transition

Also, i love cocks
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>>18448456
You made a claim that was objectively wrong.
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>>18447186
Antichrists are claiming that the way for salvation is to do shit that will make you miserable.
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>>18448999
I disagree that reading "quotes" out of 2000+ year old stories is a good way to figure out the attitudes of the Jewish people.
Pointing to a place in the Bible where someone says "we're shitty", doesn't mean Jews didn't view themselves as more moral and valuable than other people.
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>>18448287
But the claim in the op is true. It's the most common answer to the problem of nonresistant nonbelievers. Christians claim nonresistant nonbelief does not exist because the only possible way not to conclude god exists is through some form of rebellion rather than simply using nonmotivated reasoning.
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>>18447186
Well, someone must exist so that we exist.
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>>18447972
There are dumbasses out there that are 100% convinced that there is no God and that they won’t go to a different place after dying to get punished. I wouldn’t place this bet.
No one is coming to die for your sins, like Jesus. It’s all a made up story. You will pay.
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>>18449874
A human or humans wrote the bible, more specifically a male human. The biggest clue to this is that the bible contains many passages with misogyny.
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>>18447249
This place is infested with moronic third worlders. That's why it appears as though there are so many religious people they are all brown third worlders.



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