This plan was created to pit the Slavs and Balts against Germany.
i can't understand this disgusting dog language that germutts speak
>>18447590Google translate is free Saar
What is even the point of lying like this? Himmler was obsessed with Nordic-Germanic blood, and in Nazi racial theory the East Baltic race was subhuman and needed to be replaced by the Nordic-Germanic race. We have many of the documents for Generalplan Ost. They measured the skulls of Eastern European villagers to determine how Nordic they were which would decide their racial worth, if they could be germanized. Second place went to Dinaric. There are documents from the Nazis about their plans for Eastern Europe saying that people with East Baltic blood were mixed race subhumans. Just because they listed off a bunch of races doesn't mean they all saw them as white brothers or something. The East Baltic population was viewed as a problem which was to be solved with eugenics and extermination.
>>18447605And here is a translation for those of you who can't read German.Source is pg. 3 of "Richtlinien für die ärztliche und erbbiologische Beurteilung der Umsiedler" (Guidelines for the Medical and Biological Assessment of Resettlers) which is R 69/178 in the Bundesarchiv NS archives. That's only scratching the surface though, Nazis wrote a lot about how much they hated the East Baltic race, which they believed was an encroaching biologically Asiatic menace to the Nordic-Germanic Race.
>>18447585>This plan was created to pit the Slavs and Balts against Germany.Why would that be necessary? Slavs and Balts have literally always hated Germany
How does any of this disprove Generalplan Ost
>The Government General, as we know and have developed it, will be essentially richer and happier. It will experience more support and, above all, will be cleared of Jews [entjudet]. What’s more, it will lose the characteristic look of a lifestyle which is still predominantly Polish, because along with the Jews, Poles will also leave this territory. The Führer has decided to make this area into a purely German land.
>>18447605>>18447635Kinda weird they actually believed this crap, for example Poles are becoming less brachycephalic now, epigenetic and environmental factors affect outward morphology.
>>18447585The body of literature about NatSoc exterminationist policies in the east is extremely extensive. Go read Ostkrieg by Stephen G. Fritz>>18449213In fairness, this was well accepted science back then. At least the skull thing was, the mysticism aspect was much more contentious. And it's well known that the NSDAP sidelined and censured the more extreme of the Nordicists to foster a sense of pan-german unity. The early twentieth century was still very weird science wise. Though I think a lot of the distance between it and our society is directly tied to WW2 making things like race science, or eugenics radio-active.
>>18449213They had no idea of that. there was an entire corpus of pseudoscientific racist literature at the turn of the 20th century in the US, Germany, Britain, and Northern Europe in general centered around nordicism and the supremacy and special abilities and talents of the "Nordic-Germanic race" relative even to other Europeans, which created all civilization and human progress in history in Greece, Rome, China, Sumer, the Levant, and so on but was eventually destroyed every time through intermixture with inferior races because Nordics are supposedly the only race that also has feelings of morality and guilt and refused to kill off their slaves. This even made its way in some cases into legislation like the 1924 Immigration Act. The Nazis gave Lothrop Stoddard a tour of Germany and a private audience with Hitler and the racial ideologues of the regime to show him how they were putting his theories into action.The Pan-German movement and the Nazis just took it many steps further, to the point they saw Europe as composed of completely different unrelated races that were as different from each other as a racist today would see a European and an African, and were totally defined by a genocidal form of it. They thought that only Germany and Northern Europe had enough Nordic blood of any nations in the world, and Eastern Europe made of East Baltids and Mongoloids would eventually raise up an Asiatic horde like Genghis Khan and destroy Nordic-Germanic blonde people forever, which would extinguish all hope for humanity.
>>18449227You should have mentioned that Nordicism was somewhat sidelined by the Reich because it conflicted with their message of pan-germanism and also reflected badly on the party's somewhat South German leadership.
>>18449237I've heard this from both WW2 revisionists sympathetic to Germany and those who think the Nazis shelved racial ideologies and acted more opportunistically. Problem is I don't find it convincing at all. I think this was nothing more than a case of what Neo-Nazis call optics. Yeah they shut down those nordicist societies, but those people were all given jobs in the racial bureaus of the administration. They shut down all labor unions and even German nationalist societies too, they absorbed them into the party and the state. Fact is, they were still genociding Eastern Europeans and selecting people for the SS based on nordic skull measurements and teaching those theories in German schools and publishing that sort of literature, like the Neues Volk magazine and others targeted for a more highbrow audience. They just took extreme forms of it out of the public eye and made it something for the Nazi intelligentsia, SS, and party elite.When Goering was giving his Stalingrad speech to the SS on the radio he cast it in explicitly nordicist terms that they were fighting the Asiatic East for the survival of the Nordic race, that was in 1943. Also when racial anthropologists improved their racial assessment of Russians late in the war, it was because they finally had enough Russian POWs that they could subject to racial exams and found out they were more Nordic and less Asiatic than previously assumed. Not because they just dropped the whole thing.
>>18447635>>18447605Assuming it's real it's so stupid and contradictody. It contradicts the OP document where all 6 races are seen as decent, it shits on the Alpine race which is more common in Souf Germany and France than Slavlands etc.They just needed space and worked their way backwards in the end.
>>18449265>When Goering was giving his Stalingrad speech to the SS on the radio he cast it in explicitly nordicist terms that they were fighting the Asiatic East for the survival of the Nordic race, that was in 1943. That was just propaganda, stalingrad had Hungarians, Romanians and Croats as well as Soviet Hiwis on their side.My personal belief is that they needed some stupid narrative to make people fight. People need a story and a narrative to give it their all.And Göring looked like Tito, but one was Aryan and the other a subhuman Slav.
>>18447605>>18447635The official state policy of Nazi Germany as outlined in Rein’s Race and Culture of our ancestors has Slavs and Balts as apart of the East Baltid sub race of the Aryan race. They were determined to be related to Nordics because many of them feature Nordic traits such as light eyes and light hair.There was no general plan ost.It is a post war fabrication to slander Germany.Furthermore, given how Slavs behave there should have been a general plan ost. A lot of suffering would be prevented if Slavs were shipped back to Asia.
>>18449223>extremely extensiveIt’s actually almost entirely absent from the primary sources.There was never any official policy implementation that could be considered anything worse than what was already done to the Germans by the Poles and Soviets.If Putin arrested 50,000 Americans Trump would nuke his monkey ass that evening.Yet when Stalin arrested 50,000 Germans Hitler is demonized for “racism” for condemning it.When poles ethnically cleans Germans they screech with joy at being the conquerors of another people.Yet when Polish squatters are moved back to their place of origin they call it murder.
>>18449265>When Goering was giving his Stalingrad speech to the SS on the radio he cast it in explicitly nordicist terms that they were fighting the Asiatic East for the survival of the Nordic race, that was in 1943.didnt find any source bro, mind giving me one?
>>18449502>Und aus all diesen gigantischen Kämpfen, rast nun, gleich einem gewaltigen, monumentalen Bau, Stalingrad, der Kampf um Stalingrad heraus. (…) Das dort jetzt unsere Grenadiere, Pioniere, Artilleristen, Flakartilleristen (…) und wer sonnst in dieser Stadt ist, (…) bis zum letzten Mann, wer da jetzt kämpft gegen eine gewaltige Übermacht um jeden Block, um jeden Stein, um jedes Loch, um jeden Graben, immer wieder kämpft, ermattet, erschöpft. Wir kennen ein gewaltiges, heroisches Lied von einem Kampf ohne gleichen, das hieß ‘Der Kampf der Nibelungen’.>Auch sie standen in einer Halle aus Feuer und Brand, löschten den Durst mit eigenem Blut, aber kämpften und kämpften bis zum letzten. Ein solcher Kampf tobt heute dort, denn ein Volk, das so kämpfen kann, muss siegen. (…) Es hat immer kühne Männer gegeben die sich geopfert haben um etwas Größeres für die andern zu erreichen. (…) Der deutsche Widerstand ist organisiert, konnte organisiert werden, die neuen Linien sind gefestigt, aber sie konnten nur gefestigt werden weil dort draußen in diesem Trümmerfeld dieser Stadt, Helden kämpften und noch kämpfen, und wenn es nur noch wenige sind, so lang ein Deutscher steht, weiss der Russe wird gekämpft. (…) Meine Soldaten, die meisten von Euch werden von einem ähnlichen Beispiel der grossen und gewaltigen Geschichte Europas gehört haben. (…) Wenn ihr denkt, Jahrtausende sind vergangen; und vor diesem Jahrtausend da stand in einem kleinen Engpass in Griechenland ein unendlich tapferer und kühner Mann mit 300 seiner Männer, stand Leonidas mit 300 Spartiaden – aus einem Stamm, der wegen seiner Tapferkeit und Kühnheit bekannt war.1/2
>>18449502>>18449587>Und eine überwältigende Mehrheit griff und griff immer wieder aufs neue an. (…) Auch damals war es ein Ansturm aus dem asiatischen Osten, der sich hier, am nordischen Menschen brach. Gewaltige Mengen von Kämpfern standen Xerxeszur Verfügung, aber die 300 Männer wichen und wankten nicht, sie kämpften und kämpfen einen aussichtslosen Kampf – aussichtslos aber nicht in seiner Bedeutung. Und dann fiel der letzte Mann.>Und in diesem Engpass, da steht nun ein Satz: ‘Wanderer, kommst du nach Sparta, so berichte, du habest uns hier liegen sehen, wie das Gesetz es befahl.’ Es waren 300 Männer, meine Kameraden, Jahrtausende sind vergangen, und heute gilt dieses, dieser Kampf dort, dieses Opfer dort, noch so heroisch, so als Beispiel höchsten Soldatentums. Und es wird auch einmal heißen: ‘Kommst du nach Deutschland, so berichte, du habest uns in Stalingrad liegen sehen, wie das Gesetz, das heißt, das Gesetz der Sicherheit unseres Volkes es befohlen hat.’” (…) “Wir wollen nicht lügen…” *—Göring: Rede (auch als Nibelungenrede bekannt) im Berliner Reichsluftfahrtministerium, 30. Januar, 1943; Ansprache vor Wehrmachtsangehörigen zum 10. Jahrestag der Machtergreifung* Satz aus Hitlers Rede vom 10. Februar, 1933, im Berliner Sportpalast.2/2
>>18449479>Furthermore, given how Slavs behave there should have been a general plan ost. A lot of suffering would be prevented if Slavs were shipped back to Asia.We have already established on this board that only schizophrenics can be nazis. Your position is incoherent and self-contradictory. You are insane.
>>18447585>to pit the Slavs and Balts against Germany.Mere German occupation was enough for that dude.
