Historically speaking, why did Americans (my own countrymen) ultimately favor more government over their own autonomy? I thought 1776 was enough to dissuade us from empowering and condoning a nannystate. What changed, exactly, and when did this change? The United States we know now is barely recognizable from its founding since we have all sorts of laws and regulations in place which constitutionally get around the original documents.
Because in spite of what the Jewish and pro American media tell you humans value order, authority, and stability more than liberty or freedumbs.
>>18448119But clearly too much order, authority, and stability leads to tyranny which is what the Founding Fathers experienced in 1776 so why are we repeating the same mistakes?
>>18448129What “tyranny” retard?Tyranny is the Ancient Regime of FranceThe autocracy of the Russian empire.An increase in taxes isn’t tyranny
And even then, those two led their nations to glory and conquest. I’d rather have that than “muh freedumb” faggotry
>>18448133Tyranny =/= monarchy, you despicable lout. Tyranny is when you have a government, any government, which arbitrarily overreaches against the rights and freedoms of the population, or an individual. You can have tyranny of the majority which is what happened in Athens, and to Socrates when he challenged the authorities of his day. This is really all subjective though, since in the end, might makes right, and the Founding Fathers had a "right" regardless of law to separate from Parliament since they won. As long as you win, you can restructure history itself to whatever you want it to be.
>>18448156Thanks for proving my point, you ignorant buffoon
>>18448133>>18448136For example, would you want a bunch of people telling you what you can or can't do on your own property? A neighborhood association, even? It's kind of the same thing, there's a certain point where they shouldn't have that power because it infringes on your power basically.
>>18448162I didn't "prove" your point I'm working within the realm of human rights, although I might practically agree with you otherwise.
>>18448111The biggest changes are the industrial revolution and the rise of urbanization. One consequence of which was increasing the distance from farm to table for a vast and growing amount of people, which predictably resulted in extremely poor quality and unhealthy food appearing in the food system. This led to the creation of the pure food and drug act during the administration of President Theodore Roosevelt, which was one of the first really big administrative regulatory schemes in the US that touched all of society. TR consequently was the first president to have really come into office with a legislative agenda and an agenda of trying to centralize more power into the executive branch. He was also the first president to propose a system like social security. A national pension system is just taken for granted now, but prior to its creation during the FDR administration elder poverty was a huge problem.
>>18448175It just seems like it went too far but I don't know when, so you're saying T.R. was the gamechanger of all of this?
>>18448129you lost tranny
Oh give me a fucking break, weed is legal in my state but would get you thrown in prison in your shithole of a state and you can own a firearm chambered for .50 cal while I can only own a firearm with a 10 round magazine that has to be fixed if it's a rifle with a hand grip. My point is that states have more than enough autonomy, the problem is overall population, since as the population goes up, individual voting power decreases. America was founded with a population of just 2.7 million people and today it's a population of 330 million people. This is a problem with all Democracies.
>>18448156>This is really all subjective though, since in the end, might makes right*tips*
