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Why was southern china, the more economically abundant portion of china, unable to retake the north despite its immense industrial capability and technological advances in gunnery?
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Before the mass adoption of firearms levelled the playing field war legitimately was "strongest man wins", and steppe peoples raised on milk, meat, and malevolence are always going to btfo malnutritioned rice-fed peasants.
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>>18448267
Mongols conquered Daili for the sole purpose of flanking the Song on the strategic scale. Song had no chance. Not to mention the entirety of the North betrayed their homeland and pledged their shipbuilding and siege expertise to the Mongols (which by now had Persian and Arabic know-how). Maybe if the Song court wasn't as corrupt as modern India they might have survived but with Dali taken and the Song population choosing to immediately surrender at times and switch sides, it was a lost cause.
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>>18448267
The south is simply more civilizied. Civilized people are worse at fighting.
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>>18448267
Brownoid negrito southerners could never compete with Han chads
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>>18448310
How did Rome conquer Gaul then? Or The Greeks?
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>>18448313
>civilized people are worse at fighting!
>how did rome conquer the greeks then?
Who's going to tell him?
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>>18448313
Romans were barbarians compared to the Greeks. The Gauls were weak-souled celts
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>>18448313
legendary bait
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>>18448274
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/16746138/#q16746167

>>16746167


Mongols are shorter than northern Han Chinese, retard.

Genghis Khan literally killed all Mongols taller than a cart wheels axle when unifying the Mongol tribes, and the Mongol Khalkha pony is short and tall riders would crush it.

Mongols were conquered and raped by Han Chinese in the Tang dynasty centuries before the Mongol empire ever existed.

Most Chinese diaspora are Cantonese who are the shortest in China.

Northern Han Chinese fron Shandong are the tallest East Asians genetically,, and it has nothing to do with nutrition.

South Koreans have better nutrition than Shandong Han but South Koreans are shorter.

Confucius was from Shandong and was six feet tall, neolithic remains of 6 feet tall people in Shandong have been found.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/16656141/#q16662277

Chinese labour corps expedition in World War I era France were from Shandong and they towered over Western Europeans.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/16656141/#q16662769


Shandong Han are the tallest East Asians.

Shandong Han are taller than other northern Han, who are taller than all Mongols.

Average Mongol is a short midget.

Shandong Han who have less nutrition than South Koreans are taller than South Koreans.

South Korean maximum height is shorter than Shandong Han maximum height.

Shandong people were always tall since the neolithic, like Confucius himself was said to be 6 feet tall.

Neolithic remains of tall people were found in Shandong.
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>>18448274
>>18448339
Northern Han and Russian both taller than Mongol

https://chinaplus.cri.cn/chinaplus/news/politics/11/20190615/303065.html
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>>18448274
>>18448339
>>18448342
Manlet Mongol next to rice eating southern Han.

https://www.alamy.com/mongolian-president-tsakhia-elbegdori-l-shakes-hands-with-chinese-president-hu-jintao-in-the-great-hall-of-the-people-in-beijing-on-june-7-2012-xinhuaupi-image258178449.html

Mongolian President Tsakhia Elbegdori (L) shakes hands with Chinese President Hu Jintao in the Great Hall of the People in Beijing on June 7, 2012.
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>>18448274
>>18448339
>>18448342
>>18448346
https://news.mn/en/110704/
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>>18448352
Northern Han next to Mongol president Khaltmaa Battulga

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-09/12/c_137462698.htm
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>>18448356
Another manlet "steppechad" Kazakh.

http://english.scio.gov.cn/m/topnews/2019-04/29/content_74734737.htm
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>>18448339
Mongols and Manchus are both are shorter than Han Chinese. Inner Mongolia is taller than Outer Mongolia because its filled with northern Han

Look at the map itself moron, Outer Mongolia (which is 99% ethnic Mongol) has a shorter height than Shandong Han and you have the gall to lie and claim Mongols and Manchus are the tallest people in China?

Mongols (Outer Mongolia) and Manchus (Beijing) are both midgets compared to Shandong Han (Shandong and most of Jilin, Heilongjiang and Liaoning are filled with Shandong Han settlers).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country

Genghis Khan purged tall Mongol men when he was uniting Mongol tribes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_against_the_linchpin

>Genghis Khan used this brutal method against Jamukha's coalition of tribes in 1202. All male captives were forced to walk beside a wagon wheel. If their heads were higher than the linchpin (a pin inserted at the end of the axle) they were immediately executed. The wagon wheel was a large wheel used to transport yurts and other goods. This technique was probably used to preempt against revenge attacks that were common between tribes at this time. If one tribe were to attack another, there was always the possibility that there would be a revenge attack soon after. By eliminating the older males, there was less chance of a counterattack from tribes that were in perpetual conflict due to centuries of distrust and robbery.

This picture of tall nomads are actually Kazakhs, not Mongols. Kazakhs are literally mongrel mutt rapebabies of Mongol men raping Turkic Kipchak Cuman Indo-European Caucasian women. Kazakhs have paternal Mongol Y Haplogroup C2 while they have maternal Indo-European Caucasian mtdna haplogroups.

A Kazakh is to a Mongol as to what a Mestizo Latino Hispanic is to a Spaniard. They got their paternal ancestry from violent conquest and rape of the local women so their maternal ancestry is different but their paternal is the same.
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>>18448274
>>18448360

The image in this post shows Shandong Han Chinese labour corps in France made out of poor labourers from Shandong towering over western Europeans.

https://imgur.com/a/e4uApz7#nCPaLrf


the majority of Chinese in the west are from the shortest province in China, Guangdong.

The giant cherry farmer Ah Bing was of Shandong origin.

The Chinese labour corps expeition in France were Shandong origin and they towered over French people.

Chinese labour corps in France made out of poor labourers from Shandong towering over western Europeans.

https://imgur.com/a/e4uApz7#nCPaLrf

Confucius was six feet tall and so were neolithic people on Shandong.

https://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/47936

http://www.xinhuanet.com//english/2017-07/03/c_136414214.htm

Ah Bing was a Shandong Han whose family moved into "Manchuria" (Jilin, Hailongjiang) after Chuang Guandong and then to the US to farm cherries.

https://www.factmonster.com/biographies/art-entertainment/ah-bing

https://www.hereisoregon.com/people/2023/12/bing-in-the-new-year-cherry-drop-will-celebrate-cultivator-ah-bings-sweet-creation-in-oregon.html

Manchu commoners were not allowed to leave China at the time and didn't use diminutives like A.

Manchus were moved to Beijing in 1644, their height is represented by Beijing height on the maps >>16746167 >>16746172

"Manchuria" (Heilongjiang, Jilin and Liaoning) are filled with Shandong Han migrants since the 19th century for Jilin and Heilongjiang and since medieval era for Liaoning.
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>>18448361
The image at >>18448361 shows Shandong Han Chinese labour corps in France made out of poor labourers from Shandong towering over western Europeans.

https://imgur.com/a/e4uApz7#nCPaLrf
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>>18448361

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Labour_Corps

The Chinese Labour Corps comprised Chinese men who came mostly from Shandong province,[6] and to a lesser extent from Liaoning, Jilin, Jiangsu, Hubei, Hunan, Anhui and Gansu provinces.[3] The first transport ship carrying 1,088 labourers sailed from the main depot at Weihaiwei on 18 January 1917. The journey to France took three months.[7]
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Tell me about Fujian province, chink spammer.
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>>18448361
>>18448365
>>18448361
The image at >>18448361 shows Shandong Han Chinese labour corps in France made out of poor labourers from Shandong towering over western Europeans.

https://imgur.com/a/e4uApz7#nCPaLrf
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>>18448274
>steppe peoples raised on milk

Mongols are lactose intolerant and can't drink milk directly retard.

They have to make the milk into cheese, yogurt or ferment it into kumis to eat the dairy products.

Jurchens (Manchus) are not even steppe nomads and were sedentary grain farmers who grew wheat, sorghum and raised pigs and lived in wooden cabins, not felt yurt tents.

>>18448290
The Mongols invaded Burma and Vietnam from Dali, the Mongols sacked the Vietnamese capital Hanoi (Thăng Long) in 1258 after defeating the Tran dynasty army at Bình Lệ Nguyên.

So no it was not only about outflanking the Song.

Song mountain fortresses in Sichuan lasted until 1288, and that's wuth the major ones capitulation peacefully leaving smaller ones go continue resulting

Had the Song emperor holed up in a Sichuan fortress, the Song could last indefinitely there

Kublai Khan gave Korean women to Han Chinese Southern Song soldiers at Xiangyang in Hubei in exchange for them defecting.
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>>18448267
>and technological advances in gunnery?

The Song emperors originated in northern China and their guns were developed in northern China during the Northern Song.

Song gunpowder war manual Wujing Zongyao was written in 1044 in northern China for the Northern Song emperor

The Song took its technical experts South but northern China maintained its knowledge of gunpowder technology and gunpowder weapons were inherited by northern Han soldiers in the Jin and by northern Han serving in the Mongol army.
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>>18448384
The southern chinese arent chinese at all u nigger
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>>18448361

holy mogged



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