>human life has value and meaning in itselfIs this a good argument against nihilism?
that's an assertion, not an argument
If you believe that, then your belief is a logical consequence of nihilism. If all values are false and meaningless, then even the value of human life is also meaningless.So you are arguing with yourself! Your beliefs only exist because you don't want to accept that nothing has any inherent worth at all. You can't escape nihilism by refusing to admit it.
>>18450017If nothing matters why should i care a belief is wrong then?
You’re right but it’s not really an answer to the question of how we find that intrinsic worth. It’s just saying, “Well, for reasons that are beyond my ability to explain, I believe life has value.” If someone came along and said, “I don’t see the point of why a human life has value,” would your response be, “Because there is no reason?” Or do you think it could make sense for them to have some other answer? I mean, sure, I guess that’s how we handle things in our society. But there are people out there who say things like, “Life has no intrinsic value,” or “It’s all a meaningless dance.” They don’t necessarily say those things to be disagreeable or difficult to understand. It’s just part of their worldview and their identity. And when they’re challenged about it, sometimes the only answer they can come up with is “Because I said so.”
Yes.
>>18449998No, it's an argument for egoism.
No, it doesn't address nihilism at all. You're basically going "okay but what if X does matter?" Which doesn't refute anything. You can't refute nihilism though, so ironically enough, your lame, half-baked argument is a valid one. Because a true nihilist realizes that ALL ideologies and beliefs are equally valid, because they're all equally false and meaningless. Choosing to believe in a meaningless, arbitrary fantasy is no worse than not believing in it. Both are equally meaningless. Ergo: the religious retards were correct all along, because in an absurd universe where nothing matters, any reason is as good as another for doing anything. If they want to believe in a magic sky daddy that will send them to imaginary utopia in space, whatever. You do you.
>>18450019You're starting to get it!
>>18449998A good argument against nihilism is kicking the nihilist in the nuts. Suddenly, he will care very much that you've kicked him in the nuts, thus immediately disproving his very faggotish ideology.
>>18449998>value and meaning in itselfThis is a nonsensical sophist statement. Things do not have "value and meaning in themselves". They simply are themselves. The more you exercise this addictive tendency to attribute value and meaning to things the further you are moving away from reality. It's a delusion. And I won't say that this delusion doesn't "work" as in it allows you to keep surviving. But it won't convince the nihilist no matter how it's packaged. The exact aim of the nihilist is in destroying this practice at its root.Not that one must be nihilist or even particularly cynical to see behind the veil of a human trying to assert that of course it's own life (and thus the lives of its peers) must have value and meaning. A nihilist is merely the prepared vanguard on the front line of that exchange.
>>18450403Retarded tautological thought process.
I am the happiest when I am asleep because I cease to exist during the time I am asleep.
>>18451208No you don't.
>>18449998>>18450022No it isn't. If you believe in the value of human life, then you have to be able to demonstrate how it's intrinsic value is derived from. Why does human life have value? You can't simply say "it has value because I say so".
