How true is all this?What sources are these claims based on? How much of a stretch are they? If a black African worshiped Odin how would Odin feel about it?
>>18454005It's basically just completely made up and shows why Neopaganism usually fits the stereotype of being little more than a LARP where people just make up superheroes that happen to agree with themselves about everything.The Prose Edda states directly that Odin is the allfather of all of humanity. There's no indication whatsoever that he's the god of a specific people or place, and it wouldn't even make sense given that Odin made the entire world according to it.
Someone post the full page of "Hello there, nigger!" from IT.
>>18454067The issue arises between your philosophical approach to thinking and their redundant, literalistic approach. Instead of seeing it what it is, like a Tao or Monad like force, they see fucking Superman because they were raised being spoonfed secularism and direct, easy, simple, rigid explanations in schools. Couple that with immigration, and the openness of the internet: and all of those posters could be varying degrees of subhuman retardation for the furthest reaches of jungle society.
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>>18454005Why are none of them Neoplatonists or Stoics? Do they not know pagan philosophy?
>>18454067>The Prose Edda states directly that Odin is the allfather of all of humanity. There's no indication whatsoever that he's the god of a specific people or place, and it wouldn't even make sense given that Odin made the entire world according to it.Pagans also have an answer for this. Just add more gods. The god *Ermen is cognate with Aryaman. This is the patriarch of the Aryan people.
>>18454005you cannot be a """pagan""" in the 21th century without being a postmodern mess. this is something americans buit up to cope with their lack of culture
>>18454302Many of them seem to combine germanic paganism with neoplatonism or even buddhism.Many of the hellenists are neoplatonists.
>>18454005Stupid shitheads from Twitter should not be looked up to for religious guidance or any kind of life advice for that matter. Superstitious retards were killed off by Christians for a reason, the ones with any kind of intelligence converted.
>>18454988>christianity is... uh... le enlightened atheism or sum shitwut
>>18454988Christianity is no more logical than believing the sky fucked the earth until giants were born.
>>18454005>If a black African worshiped Odin how would Odin feel about it?The Norse believed that Negroes were Trolls, hue.>Blámaðr, meaning 'blue man' in Old Norse (Old Swedish: blaman, Early Modern Swedish: blåman), was the Nordic designation for dark-skinned people during the Viking Age and into the early modern period, as the color black initially was on the blue spectrum in Old Norse. Bláland, meaning 'blue land' in Old Norse (Modern Swedish Blåland), was likewise the analog name for Africa, or specifically North Africa>The Ynglinga saga, the first saga in Heimskringla, an Old Norse collection of Kings' sagas, written down around 1230 on Iceland, mentions both “Blue land” and “blue men”. A quote goes: “þar eru blámenn” (there are blue men). The usage of the word continued throughout the Middle Ages and beyond. It was, for instance, used in the Gustav Vasa Bible from 1541>In the Norrmalm district of Stockholm, there is a city block named Kvarteret Blåmannen ('Blue Man Quarter').>There is much confusion and overlap in the use of Old Norse terms jötunn, troll, þurs, and risi, which describe various beings. Lotte Motz theorized that these were originally four distinct classes of beings: lords of nature (jötunn), mythical magicians (troll), hostile monsters (þurs), and heroic and courtly beings (risi), the last class being the youngest addition. On the other hand, Ármann Jakobson is critical of Motz's interpretation and calls this theory "unsupported by any convincing evidence". Ármann highlights that the term is used to denote various beings, such as a jötunn or mountain-dweller, a witch, an abnormally strong or large or ugly person, an evil spirit, a ghost, a blámaðr, a magical boar, a heathen demi-god, a demon, a brunnmigi, or a berserker
>>18455102>"In Svitjod there are many large villages, there are also many kinds of people and many tongues, there are risers and there are dwarves, there are bluemen and there are many kinds of strange peoples; there are also animals and dragons there, uglier large. From the mountains located in the north outside all the village, a river falls around Svitjod; it is called with the correct name TANAIS (Don), it fall into the sea inside the Black Sea. The country east of Tanais in Asia was called Åsaland or Åsaheim, and the main stronghold of the country they called Åsgård. Someone named Odin was the chief of the castle, there was a big blotsted."
>>18455107>>18455102Incredibly dark skin often appears almost blue.
>>18454005Being a pagan means embracing war and sodomy . Sacred violence
>>18454993>>18455000Your ancestors would likely axe murder you if they could see how you live.
>>18454005>21st century "pagan">look inside>it's just a neo Nazi who was too ashamed to rewrite the Bible to fit his racist views
>>18455487Did you seriously try to pass off Christians as non-superstitious rational thinkers you mouth breathing retard gorilla monkey neanderthal subhuman denisovan homo erectus rat? Pagans are as dumb as you but at least their souls are untainted by Semitic filth
>>18455500You think Christians are superstitious because the religion came from Judaea? What the fuck kind of reasoning is that?
>>18454005this guy clearly has no understanding of ancient paganism. the gods don't really "ask" anything of you. if you're heroic they may reward you but mostly they do their own thing apart from yours, and no they would not reward you for being an unemployed LARPagan with anime wallpaper on his desktop.
>>18455508No, Christians are superstitious because they are religious.
>>18455512Okay, well that doesn't follow either. You're fucking stupid dude.
>>18455515>you should totally worship this magic dead jew who is gonna save your soul or sum shityou have no self-awareness you enormous retard
>>18455516Projection.Figures a shithead larpagan atheist faggot who wants to have gay sex all the time is so resistant to Christianity which tells him this sin is bad for him. Guess what religion Europeans followed for the last thousand years, retard.
>>18455512>>18455516Superstition is based on fear or ignorance. Hope and faith are not superstition, but rational belief. It isn't based on a willing of something to come to be, but on an assurance according to a promise and evidence within. Basically one needs to have encountered Jesus in their life to have faith and hope.
>>18455521>this grape juice and bread is the blood and body of my favorite magic dead jew, the ancient marvel comics super herothankfully I'm holding on to my lucky rabbit's foot so I'm immune to schizophrenia
>>18455530I like how you have nothing substantial or intelligent to say.Maybe you should go read a book for once.
>>18455522>Hope and faith are not superstitionIf you hope and believe the magic dead jew is going to heal your terminal disease, that's literally superstition.Pagans are no dumber than Christians.
>>18454005Is all religion in the 21st century just LARPing?
>>18455536Number one, I do not believe in a dead jew, I believe in the risen and alive son of God. Number two, I do not believe that Jesus heals terminal diseases, but that everything happens according to God's will. Do patients in the ICU miraculously recover? They sure do, but that isn't what Christians live for. Nowhere in the Bible do we find mention of God promising to heal every physical disease and sickness as a recompense for serving Him. But that isn't even related to the point I made, which is that Christianity is built upon assurance, hope, faith, and not superstition. My point still stands.
Why is the average /his/ poster actually brain damaged?
>>18454005One of the first things in the Havamal is about providing for guests. And the Germanic creation story makes no mention of any specific people being separate and better or worse in the eyes of the Gods. There is no reason to believe that Odin would think of an African worshiping him any differently than a Swede worshiping him.My personal position is that all the various polytheistic religions were people worshiping the same Gods under different names. But different peoples do have their own racial spirit which influences how they perceive and understand the Gods. And so, for the most part, it is better for people to worship their people's version of the Gods rather than another's with which they would have less spiritual compatability.
>>18455544>I believe in the risen and alive son of Godsuperstition>I do not believe that Jesus heals terminal diseases,literally what he does in the Bible. So you aren't Christian after all?
>>18455552Do you have a double digit IQ or something?
>>18455557>I believe the ancient magic jew rose from the dead and flew into the skyare you even human?
>>18455562No, I'm not human, I'm a figment on your computer screen. Are you actually legitimately retarded?
>>18455565there's no such thing as a magic jew who is the son of god dude.are you sure you're not a bot or some hippie who smoked too much weed while reading fables?
>>18455552>superstitionA belief based upon historical evidence and personal experience is not superstition.>>18455552>literally what he does in the BibleDefine terminal.
>>18455570It's usually Godless retards like you who do the drugs. And the suicide for that matter, and abortion, and gay sex and all other vices and sin...
>>18455573there's no historical evidence of the comic book super hero from the middle east healing the blind with spit and resurrecting the dead.you read too many comics, watched too many movies, and smoked too much weed
neopagans are almost exclusively LGBT and open borders
>>18455583>There is no historical evidence, apart from 4 historical accounts written 20-90 years after Jesus' death and resurrection.
>>18455596>Harry Potter is now historical evidence for wizards and magic because someone wrote it down on paper
>>18455604everything you believe is on faith, literally everything
>>18455604>I am arguing in bad faith pretending not to know the difference between fiction and non-fictionKek, you're just a troll
>>18455619I don't know what to tell you. Magic jews don't exist. It never happened. You believe in something totally random without justification. That is superstition.
>>18455621>a fable about the magic jew who came back to life and flew into the sky is non-fiction
>>18455588>REEE GAY PEOPLE REEE IMMIGRANTSUh oh. He's having a melty.
>>18455623Whatever retard, be happy as an ignorant slave. Who knows, Christ might give you another chance to enlighten yourself and become intelligent. I seriously doubt that though.
>>18455644>be happy as an ignorant slave>my jewish owner might give you another chance
>>18455628>>18455623Denounce Vishnu.
>>18455659Yes, Jesus Christ might give you another chance to prove that you have a triple digit IQ but then that chance might not come either.Why should anyone be a larpagan gaytheist? Because they want to be a tranny and import a gorrillion muslim niggers into their country?Reject that shit dude.
>>18455667Christians are funding the charities importing those brown people you hate. Grow up you fucking retarded nigger lmao
>>18455673Secularist humanist followers of scientism that run the EU are doing that, actually.
>>18455683incorrect
>>18455710You really think the old jews in the EU are all Christian? I know you're stupid but come on.
>>18455667>willfully lobotomizes itself to became a dutiful jewish slave>calls you low IQ>partially castrates as many boys as it can get its hands on>calls you a tranny>goes out of its way to import the blackest gorilla niggers it can find>accuses you of supporting mass immigrationIt's things like this that make it impossible for christians to deny that your religion is fundamentally jewish.
>>18455665>denounce my imaginary friendVishnu is powerless faggot who worships the ground I walk on since I exist and he doesn't
>>18455644>be happy as an ignorant slave.huh? I'm not the one who's religious
>>18454302Why even bother with the old gods? Why not make up an entirely new pantheon and rituals? Otherwise they should just become Hindu and worship their pantheon, at least they would be consistent with ancient traditions instead of pretending to know how the ancient illiterate cultures actually worshipped their gods.
>>18455508Christianity is superstitious because it is based on lies and deceitful nonsense. Jesus was not a god, he was nothing more than a man.
>>18456037>Why even bother with the old godsThe gods are real, always have been and always will. It is Zeus who rules the cosmos. Zeus is the king of gods and men. He is the father of all and his very name comes from the earlier more primitive conception of him that the Proto-Indo Europeans held, *Dyḗus ph2tḗr, literally meaning “Sky Father.” He is the one who created the universe and he made lesser gods like Athena and Apollo to govern certain aspects of the universe on his behalf. He is the source of all life hence why he is also sometimes called Zên which in Ancient Greek means “life.”The myths surrounding Zeus are allegories for divine truths, not literal historical events. He is a metaphysical spirit who transcends the physical universe and the traditional anthropomorphic depiction of him is a representation of him, not a literal depiction of what he actually looks like. Compare this to how love, a force which exists but is not a physical thing that can be weighed or measured, is often represented by a heart.
>>18454067The prose edda is not an empirical source in Germanic or IE studies for this reason. It's a 13th century skald trying to keep a dying light alive. There were many attempts at this and innovations (wonderful, even) in poetry and prose from this era. But it simply does not reflect the pre-Christian worldview or even the early Christian worldview of the gods. It's a LARP that Odin was this universal progenitor, and Germanic culture had more of this cosmic "completeness" than most any other Indo-European cosmology where such things were even considered. Romans would have scoffed at the idea of some chinaman being the descendants of Jupiter. In later myths they thought we were made from mud, for example. And that Jupiter gave us life. That's a more realistic view of pre-Christian myth than one god fathering all mankind, which literally no one believed it seems.
I don't believe Jesus was God.>then you're a jew!No, the Talmud and Torah are both nonsense. Badly written fiction to justify some tribal autism.>th-then you're Indian!I don't really think blue alien gods with six arms is any less ridiculous. Also those people shit in the street and worship cows.>th-then you're a western liberal tranny o algo!Why are you fags so mentally ill?
>>18455755You reason like a child and have a superficial understanding of what's going on. So yes, I call you an idiot.>Jewish slaveNigger, what the fuck have gaytheists done for the world except bring communism and kill millions for nothing?